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Abele Beardsley
Duran Duran, not my faves (back then I was into VH and Scorpions), but hey they were playing some heavy number that was cool and very unusual. Then they went into a classic "Say A Prayer"...Mr. LeBon's voice, great intonation, fantastic tone whaaa ?? I've seen them live on other occasions in the early days and his singing was DREADFUL.
I've always had a special place for Duran Duran though. I love that a band that visual and image conscious can still be completely homegrown, play all their own instruments, and write their own songs.
While I don't normally put "voice training" and "Simon LeBon" in the same sentence, I'd be willing to wager there's a good bit of simply having developed into the job, for him. After all, he joined the band by answering an ad in the paper that advertised needing a "frontman for a poser band" where vocal skills weren't the highest priority.
I saw a documentary on Duran Duran, and it showed him doing an hour of rather difficult-sounding vocal warm-ups before recording, for whatever that's worth - and he was doing them quite well. He apparently does this all the time. He sounded really good doing these difficult exercises (although I suppose it's possible that the film crew had AutoTune! ).
Never was a Duran fan, but it's interesting: I've seen quite a few 80's bands recently who are as good or better than they were 20-25 years ago. And many of em seem like they're having a better time and look better/healthier.
I think a lot of those bands were pretty screwed up on coke in those days which also made them have unbearable attitudes. Now that they're a bit older and have cleaned up it seems they're better than "back in the day."
I have seen them live three (or four) times.... and I can definately say that there is a magic with the old line up together. But... the line up with Warren Cucarillo (sorry for the spelling) and the studio drummer was by far the best musicianship they had.
I was sorry to see the reunion, though. While it's great to have John back on bass (amazing player), Warren Cuccurullo was a much stronger guitar player than Andy -- after all, Warren came from the Zappa camp and then Missing Persons.
Not a big fan myself, but didn't LeBon overcome throat surgery and have to learn to sing all over again? I believe this occurred between the Duran Duran heyday and the reunion (I'm guessing the 90's).
The last time I saw Duran Duran in concert I was sitting in second row center with all these gyrating chicks around me. Simon took a giant swig of water and spit it all over the first four rows of people. My wife was wiping off the spit wa and rubbing it all over herself.
I think the singer for Duran Duran sang wonderfully in the 80s considering the number of problems sound companies faced due to the lack of technology. It's no surprise that they sing even better nowdays. But I dont see a crime in the use of Autotune. I use it in the studio and it quickly becomes your best friend when someone can't sing on key. There are alot of great "sounding" singers who can't stay on key. It'a all about having a good time and letting your ears enjoy the music. Autotune makes sure that happens, not to mention the added "effects" that is possible LIVE.
Autotune has a slight imperfection though that gives it away. Because it can only travel the scale like a keyboard you end of with a "technical" singer effect. That's perfectly acceptable nowdays. It can make an se mi-pro sound like they have master control and placement. But anyone who uses the plug-in would recognize it anywhere.
I recognized on AOL Sessions with Motley Crue before they started touring. I can't remember which song it was , maybe Girls Girls Girls. At the end of the song Vince Neil starts yelling out vocal runs and you can hear the Autotune move incorrectly across the scale. That is due to VERY poor singing. Of course he's well known for hitting sour notes.
Not to derail the topic too much, but I have been geting a ton of requests for Rascal Flatts, so I decided to check them out. It's my opinion that there isn't a single vocalized note that hasn't been corrected. And the fact that it's so obvious makes me want to find the engineer and lock him outof the studio. If Duranx2 is using it, it's obviously more subtle, so keep going! That's what effects are supposed to be, right?
I know what you mean; sometimes it's hard to tell when AT is being used, but over time overt use of processing may be more apparent to the listening public. One current album I'd recommend is Beirut's Gulag Orkestar. It's really obvious that they used minimal effects, if any, on the vocals. The performances are real -- oh, and the songs are good too.
o/t Right now my voice teacher is making me re-create Beach Boys harmonies; boy is that tough! I have the thing slowed down in Ableton Live and am amazed at how tight they were. Of course I can hear some of their "imperfections" if you want to call it that (scooping, timing issues and all that) but that's after I've listened to it zillions of times.
Simon alway seems to suck for the first two songs.... not really bad, but usually a couple noticable flat notes. Last time they were on VH1 one of the songs was notorious, and it actually sounded better than the album.
I'm a big duran duran fan, and i can tell you that he has just become a much better singer than he used to be. the newer album however is pretty much crap, and just feels like they are holding back a bit.
Our local church just got a new SoundCraft Si Compact 32 mixer. We really want to record a CD, but the vocalists are demanding autotune. Is it possible to get autotune to work with this mixer, or do I have to record the vocals separately, and add autotune on a DAW on the computer? If it is possible to record all 32 channels of the mixer directly to the computer, then that would be the best.
The mixer is pretty much irrelevant, however if you are wanting to autotune live, you will need as many autotunes as channels you wish to autotune - could be expensive. With a DAW, you can just run it for each channel asynchronously as you need.
It would be cheaper and give a better result (and take more time) if you auto tune in the computer later. Doing this would require that your mixer has direct outs on each channel and your computers interface has 32 inputs.
Legendary for its vocal enhancing and creative applications, the Auto-Tune effect revolutionized modern vocal production. A UA exclusive, the Auto-Tune Realtime X plug-in gives you the ultimate low-latency Auto-Tune solution, in the studio or onstage.
Auto-Tune Realtime X plug-in gives you the clearest user interface yet, with workflow enhancements like dark/light mode, easy Undo, and a Mix control to quickly add Auto-Tune effects without setting up effects sends.
Like other one-star reviewers, Antares and UA took away my previous version of realtime, too. I preferred that version... and now they're asking $149 for me to get it back?? Screw that. This would be a five-star review if I simply had access to the old version again.
Unbelievable, I have to pay for an upgrade 2 weeks after I purchased the outdated version. Very disappointed that UA continues with this tactic and am not surprised that people are turning away from supporting this legendary company.
Bought it for fun, turned out it is really good auto-tune, with good settings you could get a almost unnoticeable use of auto-tune, or if you want that classic auto-tune sound just do the settings, fun part is that this is live! flawless, choose your keys or click a specific key, then it'll do the work for you
You can try the plugins before you buy them as almost every vendor offers trial versions (including Waves). It's worth to try Logic's Autotune Plugin Pitch Correction and Vocal Transfomer for formant manipulations. BTW the most important setting in a live environment is a small audio-buffer size.
Auto-Tune, or autotune, is an audio processor software introduced in 1997 by the American company Antares Audio Technologies.[1][4] It uses a proprietary device to measure and alter pitch in vocal and instrumental music recording and performances.[5]
Auto-Tune was originally intended to disguise or correct off-key inaccuracies, allowing vocal tracks to be perfectly tuned. The 1998 Cher song "Believe" popularized the technique of using Auto-Tune to distort vocals. In 2018, the music critic Simon Reynolds observed that Auto-Tune had "revolutionized popular music", calling its use for effects "the fad that just wouldn't fade. Its use is now more entrenched than ever."[6]
Auto-Tune is available as a plug-in for digital audio workstations used in a studio setting and as a stand-alone, rack-mounted unit for live performance processing.[8] The processor slightly shifts pitches to the nearest true, correct semitone (to the exact pitch of the nearest note in traditional equal temperament). Auto-Tune can also be used as an effect to distort the human voice when pitch is raised or lowered significantly,[9] such that the voice is heard to leap from note to note stepwise, like a synthesizer.[10]
Auto-Tune was developed by Andy Hildebrand, a Ph.D. research engineer who specialized in stochastic estimation theory and digital signal processing.[1] Hildebrand conceived the vocal pitch correction technology on the suggestion of a colleague's wife, who had joked that she could benefit from a device to help her sing in tune.[13][14]
Over several months in early 1996, he implemented the algorithm on a custom Macintosh computer and presented the result at the NAMM Show later that year, where "it was instantly a massive hit".[13] Hildebrand's method for detecting pitch involved the use of autocorrelation and proved superior to earlier attempts based on feature extraction that had problems processing certain aspects of the human voice such as diphthongs, leading to sound artifacts.[13] Music engineers had previously considered autocorrelation impractical because of the massive computational effort required, but Hildebrand found a "mathematical trick" to overcome this, "a simplification [that] changed a million multiply adds into just four".[13]
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