OHPA Voting - Round 3 OHPA OHPA OHPA

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Steve Forslund

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May 16, 2013, 12:15:55 AM5/16/13
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 OHPA way more fun! How about a choice for none of the above on the name change and more discussion? How many people voted for each of these three choices? How many voted at all?

 I am all for multi-gender, multi-national games, being an advocate for neglected abused children not big on cat fanciers federation. Free flyers what is free about it? Cascade Air sports? sounds like some strange Scandinavian flatulence society.


CPHGC; now that's a mouthful

The latest from CPH Game Collective (@
CphGC). Copenhagen Game Collective is a multi-gender, multi-national, non-profit game design collective.




CFF Cascade Free Flyers;

Cascade Flyers is an AMA Chartered Club and R/C field located between Bend and Sisters - in beautiful Central Oregon. ... Get a free blog at WordPress.com ...

Email us info@cascadefamilyflyers.com. 11021 Old Snohomish-Monroe Road Snohomish, Wa. 98290. TheCascade Family Airfield was built in 1996 with the ...

We are Cascade Flyers, a not-for-profit flying club based out of Paine Field (PAE) in Everett, Washington. The Cascade Flyers operate two very well maintained ...

www.cff.org/



Provides information about the disease, treatment options, clinical trials, research, and public policy. CFF may refer to: Critical Flicker Fusion rate or threshold, a concept in the psychophysics of vision. Chemins de fer fédéraux suisses, the Swiss Federal Railways ...

And of course;

Cat Fanciers Federation - CFF - Cat shows in MA, ME, NH, CT, RI ...

www.cffinc.org/



Registry and show-sponsoring organization; second oldest in the US. Sponsors shows primarily in New England and the Midwest.


CASA;
CASA of Lane County | Eugene and Springfield
www.casa-lane.org/



Advocates on behalf of abused and neglected children. Individual stories, news, and ways to help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Agricultural_Safety_Association
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centres_Against_Sexual_Assault










On 5/15/2013 4:43 PM, Dave Blizzard wrote:
Hi all;

Thanks to all of you who participated in the previous round.  

In Round 3, we'll choose the name to be voted upon in Round 4 (the final round).  To vote in this round, please go to:

http://pcc.blizzardfx.com/cpc_voting
User Name is your ushpa number.
Password is "ushpa"

Thanks for Voting.

dave


Discover Paragliding!

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May 16, 2013, 12:27:58 AM5/16/13
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OHPA (Opa) sounds like some German geriatric flying club! Just sayin' ;-)

B Rad

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Brad and Maren
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Steve Forslund

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May 16, 2013, 12:44:19 AM5/16/13
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 Expression of joy used by many cultures, and you can say it. Try it with a little more joy and be less Germanic

Steve

Cloudsurf Paragliding

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May 16, 2013, 2:47:17 AM5/16/13
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My guess is that 4 obtuse rounds of voting and a multitude of choices and disagreement will mean no 55% majority and no name change...?
Whatever, the club is about pilots joining up to fly and exchange info, doesn't really matter to me what we're called.
Cascade Parachuterers Club


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dave_blizzard

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May 16, 2013, 2:25:40 PM5/16/13
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I agree with Matt completely.  Our voting strongly suggest apathy -
the total number of members who have voted in any one round is less
than 50%.  But I am not convinced that our name is primarily
responsible for keeping hang glider pilots from joining our club.  I
am equally not convinced that a new name will change much - I saw no
participation in last month's meeting by the hang gliding community,
no rush of hang glider pilots to join the club during the voting
rounds, and barely any input on this or any other forum concerning
what we are trying to do.  Without stronger support from the hang
glider community, I also doubt much will change.  Maybe I'm wrong or
am missing something.  I am ready to be enlightened.

On May 15, 11:47 pm, Cloudsurf Paragliding
<m...@cloudsurfparagliding.com> wrote:
> My guess is that 4 obtuse rounds of voting and a multitude of choices and
> disagreement will mean no 55% majority and no name change...?
> Whatever, the club is about pilots joining up to fly and exchange info,
> doesn't really matter to me what we're called.
> Cascade Parachuterers Club
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Steve Forslund <skf...@effectnet.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >   OHPA way more fun! How about a choice for none of the above on the name
> > change and more discussion? How many people voted for each of these three
> > choices? How many voted at all?
>
> >  I am all for multi-gender, multi-national games, being an advocate for
> > neglected abused children not big on cat fanciers federation. Free flyers
> > what is free about it? Cascade Air sports? sounds like some strange
> > Scandinavian flatulence society.
>
> > CPHGC; now that's a mouthful
>
> > The latest from CPH Game Collective (@*CphGC*). Copenhagen Game
> > Collective is a multi-gender, multi-national, non-profit game design
> > collective.
>
> > CFF Cascade Free Flyers;
>
> > *Cascade Flyers* is an AMA Chartered Club and R/C field located between
> > Bend and Sisters - in beautiful Central Oregon. *...* Get a *free* blog
> > at WordPress.com *...
>
> > *Email us info@*cascadefamilyflyers*.com. 11021 Old Snohomish-Monroe Road
> > Snohomish, Wa. 98290. The*Cascade* Family Airfield was built in 1996 with
> > the *...
>
> > *We are *Cascade Flyers*, a not-for-profit flying club based out of Paine
> > Field (PAE) in Everett, Washington. The *Cascade Flyers* operate two very
> > well maintained *...
>
> > *www.*cff*.org/
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=CFF&rlz=1C1LENP_enUS484US484&aq=f&oq=...>
>
> >    -
> >     -
> >     -
>
> >   Provides information about the disease, treatment options, clinical
> > trials, research**, and public policy.
> > Make a Donation<http://www.cff.org/getinvolved/manywaystogive/makeadonation/>
> >  - About CF <http://www.cff.org/aboutcf/> - Chapters<http://www.cff.org/aboutCFFoundation/locations/FindAChapter/>
> >  - Great Strides <http://www.cff.org/great_strides/>
>
> >  *CFF* may refer to: Critical Flicker Fusion rate or threshold, a concept
> > in the psychophysics of vision. Chemins de fer fédéraux suisses, the Swiss
> > Federal Railways *...
>
> > And of course;
> > *
> >  *Cat Fanciers Federation* - *CFF* - Cat shows in MA, ME, NH, CT, RI *...*<http://www.cffinc.org/>
> >  www.*cff*inc.org/
>
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=CFF&rlz=1C1LENP_enUS484US484&aq=f&oq=...>
>
> >    -
> >     -
> >     -
>
> >   Registry and show-sponsoring organization; second oldest in the US.
> > Sponsors shows primarily in New England and the Midwest.
>
> > CASA;
> > *CASA* of Lane County | Eugene and Springfield <http://www.casa-lane.org/>
> >  www.*casa*-lane.org/
>
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=Cascade+Air+Sports+Association&rlz=1C...>
>
> >    -
> >     -
> >     -
>
> >   Advocates on behalf of abused and neglected children. Individual
> > stories, news, and ways to help.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Agricultural_Safety_Association
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centres_Against_Sexual_Assault
>
> > On 5/15/2013 4:43 PM, Dave Blizzard wrote:
>
> > Hi all;
>
> > Thanks to all of you who participated in the previous round.
>
> > In Round 3, we'll choose the name to be voted upon in Round 4 (the final round).  To vote in this round, please go to:
> >http://pcc.blizzardfx.com/cpc_voting
> > User Name is your ushpa number.
> > Password is "ushpa"
>
> > Thanks for Voting.
>
> > dave
>
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>
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dave_blizzard

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May 16, 2013, 2:30:14 PM5/16/13
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Yes, Steve, I do know who has voted for what name in each round.  I
can easily produce a list of those who have never voted. Maybe we
should give them a call. Anyway, here is a summary of the voting you
asked for - as of this morning:

Round 1 - Closed
Name                                                                
Author        Votes
Cascade Free Flight Club                                          
 Admin           19
Cascade Paragliding & Hang Gliding Club                 Admin        
        14
Cascade Hang Gliding & Paragliding Club                 Admin      
      7

Round 2 - Closed
Name                                                                
Author        Votes
Cascade Free Flyers                                                
David Blizzard   10
Cascade Paragliding & Hang Gliding Club                 Steve Roti  
          6
Cascade Air Sports Association (CASA)                 Brad Hill    
        4
Cascade Free Flight Club                                         Luke
Danielson     3
OHPA Oregon HangGliding & Paragliding Association Steve Forslund    
2
Airheads Anonymous                                                
John Sargent         1
Oregon Air Sports Association                                 Steven
Lawson     1
Oregon Hang Glider & Paragliding Association         Douglas Peck  
  1
Cascade Parachuteers Club                                 Matt Henzi
    1

Round 3 - Open
Name                                                                
Author        Votes
Cascade Paragliding & Hang Gliding Club                     Admin    
      13
Cascade Free Flight Club                                        
Admin                  8
Cascade Air Sports Association (CASA)                 Admin        
   4

On May 15, 11:47 pm, Cloudsurf Paragliding
<m...@cloudsurfparagliding.com> wrote:
> My guess is that 4 obtuse rounds of voting and a multitude of choices and
> disagreement will mean no 55% majority and no name change...?
> Whatever, the club is about pilots joining up to fly and exchange info,
> doesn't really matter to me what we're called.
> Cascade Parachuterers Club
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Steve Forslund <skf...@effectnet.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >   OHPA way more fun! How about a choice for none of the above on the name
> > change and more discussion? How many people voted for each of these three
> > choices? How many voted at all?
>
> >  I am all for multi-gender, multi-national games, being an advocate for
> > neglected abused children not big on cat fanciers federation. Free flyers
> > what is free about it? Cascade Air sports? sounds like some strange
> > Scandinavian flatulence society.
>
> > CPHGC; now that's a mouthful
>
> > The latest from CPH Game Collective (@*CphGC*). Copenhagen Game
> > Collective is a multi-gender, multi-national, non-profit game design
> > collective.
>
> > CFF Cascade Free Flyers;
>
> > *Cascade Flyers* is an AMA Chartered Club and R/C field located between
> > Bend and Sisters - in beautiful Central Oregon. *...* Get a *free* blog
> > at WordPress.com *...
>
> > *Email us info@*cascadefamilyflyers*.com. 11021 Old Snohomish-Monroe Road
> > Snohomish, Wa. 98290. The*Cascade* Family Airfield was built in 1996 with
> > the *...
>
> > *We are *Cascade Flyers*, a not-for-profit flying club based out of Paine
> > Field (PAE) in Everett, Washington. The *Cascade Flyers* operate two very
> > well maintained *...
>
> > *www.*cff*.org/
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=CFF&rlz=1C1LENP_enUS484US484&aq=f&oq=...>
>
> >    -
> >     -
> >     -
>
> >   Provides information about the disease, treatment options, clinical
> > trials, research**, and public policy.
> > Make a Donation<http://www.cff.org/getinvolved/manywaystogive/makeadonation/>
> >  - About CF <http://www.cff.org/aboutcf/> - Chapters<http://www.cff.org/aboutCFFoundation/locations/FindAChapter/>
> >  - Great Strides <http://www.cff.org/great_strides/>
>
> >  *CFF* may refer to: Critical Flicker Fusion rate or threshold, a concept
> > in the psychophysics of vision. Chemins de fer fédéraux suisses, the Swiss
> > Federal Railways *...
>
> > And of course;
> > *
> >  *Cat Fanciers Federation* - *CFF* - Cat shows in MA, ME, NH, CT, RI *...*<http://www.cffinc.org/>
> >  www.*cff*inc.org/
>
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=CFF&rlz=1C1LENP_enUS484US484&aq=f&oq=...>
>
> >    -
> >     -
> >     -
>
> >   Registry and show-sponsoring organization; second oldest in the US.
> > Sponsors shows primarily in New England and the Midwest.
>
> > CASA;
> > *CASA* of Lane County | Eugene and Springfield <http://www.casa-lane.org/>
> >  www.*casa*-lane.org/
>
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=Cascade+Air+Sports+Association&rlz=1C...>
>
> >    -
> >     -
> >     -
>
> >   Advocates on behalf of abused and neglected children. Individual
> > stories, news, and ways to help.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Agricultural_Safety_Association
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centres_Against_Sexual_Assault
>
> > On 5/15/2013 4:43 PM, Dave Blizzard wrote:
>
> > Hi all;
>
> > Thanks to all of you who participated in the previous round.
>
> > In Round 3, we'll choose the name to be voted upon in Round 4 (the final round).  To vote in this round, please go to:
> >http://pcc.blizzardfx.com/cpc_voting
> > User Name is your ushpa number.
> > Password is "ushpa"
>
> > Thanks for Voting.
>
> > dave
>
> >  --
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>
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> Matt
>
> Cloudsurf Paragliding
> cloudsurfparagliding.com
> m...@cloudsurfparagliding.com

dave_blizzard

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May 16, 2013, 2:37:57 PM5/16/13
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Lets try that voting summary again - sorry

Round 1
Cascade Free Flight Club - 19
Cascade Paragliding & Hang Gliding Club - 14
Cascade Hang Gliding & Paragliding Club -  7

Round 2
Cascade Free Flyers - 10
Cascade Paragliding & Hang Gliding Club - 6
Cascade Air Sports Association - 4
Cascade Free Flight Club - 3
OHPA Oregon HangGliding & Paragliding Association - 2
Airheads Anonymous - 1
Oregon Air Sports Association - 1
Oregon Hang Glider & Paragliding Association - 1
Cascade Parachuteers Club - 1

Round 3
Cascade Paragliding & Hang Gliding Club - 13
Cascade Free Flight Club - 8
Cascade Air Sports Association - 4

On May 15, 11:47 pm, Cloudsurf Paragliding
<m...@cloudsurfparagliding.com> wrote:
> My guess is that 4 obtuse rounds of voting and a multitude of choices and
> disagreement will mean no 55% majority and no name change...?
> Whatever, the club is about pilots joining up to fly and exchange info,
> doesn't really matter to me what we're called.
> Cascade Parachuterers Club
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Steve Forslund <skf...@effectnet.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >   OHPA way more fun! How about a choice for none of the above on the name
> > change and more discussion? How many people voted for each of these three
> > choices? How many voted at all?
>
> >  I am all for multi-gender, multi-national games, being an advocate for
> > neglected abused children not big on cat fanciers federation. Free flyers
> > what is free about it? Cascade Air sports? sounds like some strange
> > Scandinavian flatulence society.
>
> > CPHGC; now that's a mouthful
>
> > The latest from CPH Game Collective (@*CphGC*). Copenhagen Game
> > Collective is a multi-gender, multi-national, non-profit game design
> > collective.
>
> > CFF Cascade Free Flyers;
>
> > *Cascade Flyers* is an AMA Chartered Club and R/C field located between
> > Bend and Sisters - in beautiful Central Oregon. *...* Get a *free* blog
> > at WordPress.com *...
>
> > *Email us info@*cascadefamilyflyers*.com. 11021 Old Snohomish-Monroe Road
> > Snohomish, Wa. 98290. The*Cascade* Family Airfield was built in 1996 with
> > the *...
>
> > *We are *Cascade Flyers*, a not-for-profit flying club based out of Paine
> > Field (PAE) in Everett, Washington. The *Cascade Flyers* operate two very
> > well maintained *...
>
> > *www.*cff*.org/
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=CFF&rlz=1C1LENP_enUS484US484&aq=f&oq=...>
>
> >    -
> >     -
> >     -
>
> >   Provides information about the disease, treatment options, clinical
> > trials, research**, and public policy.
> > Make a Donation<http://www.cff.org/getinvolved/manywaystogive/makeadonation/>
> >  - About CF <http://www.cff.org/aboutcf/> - Chapters<http://www.cff.org/aboutCFFoundation/locations/FindAChapter/>
> >  - Great Strides <http://www.cff.org/great_strides/>
>
> >  *CFF* may refer to: Critical Flicker Fusion rate or threshold, a concept
> > in the psychophysics of vision. Chemins de fer fédéraux suisses, the Swiss
> > Federal Railways *...
>
> > And of course;
> > *
> >  *Cat Fanciers Federation* - *CFF* - Cat shows in MA, ME, NH, CT, RI *...*<http://www.cffinc.org/>
> >  www.*cff*inc.org/
>
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=CFF&rlz=1C1LENP_enUS484US484&aq=f&oq=...>
>
> >    -
> >     -
> >     -
>
> >   Registry and show-sponsoring organization; second oldest in the US.
> > Sponsors shows primarily in New England and the Midwest.
>
> > CASA;
> > *CASA* of Lane County | Eugene and Springfield <http://www.casa-lane.org/>
> >  www.*casa*-lane.org/
>
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=Cascade+Air+Sports+Association&rlz=1C...>
>
> >    -
> >     -
> >     -
>
> >   Advocates on behalf of abused and neglected children. Individual
> > stories, news, and ways to help.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Agricultural_Safety_Association
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centres_Against_Sexual_Assault
>
> > On 5/15/2013 4:43 PM, Dave Blizzard wrote:
>
> > Hi all;
>
> > Thanks to all of you who participated in the previous round.
>
> > In Round 3, we'll choose the name to be voted upon in Round 4 (the final round).  To vote in this round, please go to:
> >http://pcc.blizzardfx.com/cpc_voting
> > User Name is your ushpa number.
> > Password is "ushpa"
>
> > Thanks for Voting.
>
> > dave
>
> >  --
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>
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> Matt
>
> Cloudsurf Paragliding
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Cloudsurf Paragliding

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May 16, 2013, 3:03:40 PM5/16/13
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I was at the meeting where Rob Stephens mentioned that the few remaining OHGA members would be interested in integrating with the CPC. 
I don't remember him or their club expressing any need for the name to change other than we all though it might be a nice gesture to be more inclusive.
Maybe that's why you are not seeing many HG pilots participate in the name change - they aren't already CPC members, and cannot vote? Or they don't really care what the name is, just wanted to be part of a more cohesive club?
Obviously they are more than welcome - especially since Rob was more or less offering to combine their rarely used bank account balance with ours. :) 
More pilots, more flying, getting to fly with and hear about hangs - sounds good to me. I'm not too wrapped up in our name...



For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.





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Steve Seibel

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May 22, 2013, 2:01:50 PM5/22/13
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The information just isn't getting out. No one on the ohga list knows
anything about the voting. I'll try to get Dave to join the ohga
list, or get a volunteer who is on both lists who will reliably
forward all the voting related emails. But, the voting appears to be
open to CPC members only. If so, then that has a lot to do with it.
Steve

dave_blizzard

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May 22, 2013, 9:57:38 PM5/22/13
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Our bylaws say that 55% of our members must vote to make a major change like to our name.  Other's opinions are always to be valued, of course, but if they aren't members, they don't have much skin in the game.  If they don't know about our reaching our to the Hang community, then they didn't see my post on OHGA (I am a member) or the many posts on CPC.  Makes sense that if they don't come to meetings or participate in community functions and aren't aware of our group posts, then they probably are not interested in joining.  
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