vdw and scf convergence

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Jun

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Jan 18, 2012, 10:03:44 PM1/18/12
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Hi all,

I am running a MD simulation with PBE+D2. I found that the scf
convergence is noticeably slower than the one without vdw correction,
i.e. on average 5-6 times more scf steps. I suspect it might be
because the usual extrapolation method doesn't work so well for the
vdw correction. Does anyone see things similar, or just I miss
something?

Thanks,
Jun

Matt W

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Jan 19, 2012, 10:07:35 AM1/19/12
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Don't think this should be an issue.  Are you sure the geometry is OK with the new functional?

Matt

Jun

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Jan 20, 2012, 1:58:26 AM1/20/12
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Thanks for the reply, Matt.

As far as I understand, the correction for the D2 potential is
independent of the charge density. I feel for the same geometry both
PBE and PBE+D2 converge to the same charge density (I could be wrong).
Thus, the density for a given geometry can be readily converged with
standard PBE functional, should be equally easy to converge with PBE
+D2. What the D2 vdw correction affects is only the total energy and
therefore the force. My guess is the extrapolation method somehow
doesn't take into account the vdw force.

Cheers,
Jun

Jun

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Jan 20, 2012, 2:03:06 AM1/20/12
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I attach my input as follows. You can switch on and off the vdw
potential in order to see the difference in scf convergence.

Jun

&FORCE_EVAL
METHOD Quickstep
&DFT
BASIS_SET_FILE_NAME ./BASIS_MOLOPT
POTENTIAL_FILE_NAME ./GTH_POTENTIALS
&MGRID
CUTOFF 280
# NGRIDS 5
&END MGRID
&QS
EPS_DEFAULT 1.0E-13
EXTRAPOLATION ASPC
EXTRAPOLATION_ORDER 2
&END QS
&SCF
SCF_GUESS RESTART
EPS_SCF 3.0E-7
MAX_SCF 50
&OUTER_SCF
EPS_SCF 6.0E-7
MAX_SCF 5
&END
&OT
MINIMIZER diis
PRECONDITIONER FULL_SINGLE_INVERSE
ENERGY_GAP 0.1
&END
&END SCF
&XC
&XC_FUNCTIONAL PBE
&END XC_FUNCTIONAL
# &vdW_POTENTIAL
# DISPERSION_FUNCTIONAL PAIR_POTENTIAL
# &PAIR_POTENTIAL
# TYPE DFTD2
# R_CUTOFF 15.0
# REFERENCE_FUNCTIONAL PBE
## VERBOSE_OUTPUT T
## SCALING 1.0
# &END PAIR_POTENTIAL
# &END vdW_POTENTIAL
&END XC

&END DFT
&SUBSYS
&CELL
ABC [angstrom] 14.760 14.760 42.200
ALPHA_BETA_GAMMA 90.00 90.00 60.00
&END CELL
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C 17.323 10.269 21.684
C 17.528 9.205 22.604
N 17.196 11.126 20.821
H 16.642 8.884 23.119
H 17.804 8.331 22.011
H 18.338 9.447 23.303
C 15.622 12.778 23.572
C 16.051 12.983 24.989
N 15.214 12.976 22.438
H 15.245 12.716 25.692
H 16.963 12.395 25.228
H 16.255 14.060 25.144
C 17.663 8.493 30.466
C 16.699 9.264 29.631
N 18.531 7.933 31.111
H 16.572 8.708 28.678
H 15.700 9.388 30.084
H 17.088 10.277 29.492
C 20.596 12.665 18.982
C 21.049 12.503 20.388
N 20.390 12.919 17.800
H 21.276 13.482 20.810
H 20.364 11.885 21.002
H 21.992 11.919 20.399
C 2.175 4.727 16.215
C 3.021 4.438 15.010
N 1.590 5.020 17.230
H 2.630 5.024 14.163
H 4.057 4.616 15.284
H 2.930 3.364 14.754
&END COORD
&KIND B
BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH
POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q3
&END KIND
&KIND H
BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH
POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q1
&END KIND
&KIND N
BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH
POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q5
&END KIND
&KIND C
BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH
POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q4
&END KIND
&KIND F
BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH
POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q7
&END KIND
&END SUBSYS
&END FORCE_EVAL

&GLOBAL
PROJECT test
RUN_TYPE MD
PRINT_LEVEL medium
WALLTIME 43000
&END GLOBAL

&MOTION
&GEO_OPT
TYPE minimization
OPTIMIZER BFGS
MAX_ITER 200
&END GEO_OPT

&CONSTRAINT
&FIXED_ATOMS
LIST 1..288
&END FIXED_ATOMS
&END CONSTRAINT

&MD
&THERMOSTAT
&NOSE
LENGTH 3
YOSHIDA 3
TIMECON 1000.
MTS 2
&END NOSE
&END THERMOSTAT
ENSEMBLE NVE
STEPS 2000000
TIMESTEP 0.5
TEMPERATURE 300.0
TEMP_TOL 50
&END MD

&PRINT
&TRAJECTORY
&EACH
MD 1
&END EACH
&END TRAJECTORY
&VELOCITIES
&EACH
MD 1
&END EACH
&END VELOCITIES
&FORCES OFF
&END FORCES
&RESTART_HISTORY
&EACH
MD 1000
&END EACH
&END RESTART_HISTORY
&RESTART
BACKUP_COPIES 3
&EACH
MD 1
&END EACH
&END RESTART
# &STRESS
# &END STRESS
&END PRINT

&END MOTION


shoutian sun

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Jan 20, 2012, 3:10:07 AM1/20/12
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Hi Jun,
I see your problem here.
Please use the following modification.
The smooth method (red) will guarantee SCF convergence,
as well as vdW_POTENTIAL. Believe me.

    &XC
      &XC_FUNCTIONAL PBE
      &END XC_FUNCTIONAL

      &XC_GRID
         XC_SMOOTH_RHO NN10
         XC_DERIV SPLINE2_SMOOTH
      &END XC_GRID

      &vdW_POTENTIAL
        DISPERSION_FUNCTIONAL PAIR_POTENTIAL
        &PAIR_POTENTIAL
            TYPE DFTD2
            R_CUTOFF 15.0
            REFERENCE_FUNCTIONAL PBE
            VERBOSE_OUTPUT T
            SCALING 1.0
        &END PAIR_POTENTIAL
      &END vdW_POTENTIAL
    &END XC

cheers

SUN,
Chemistry,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong


Jun

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Jan 20, 2012, 3:56:11 AM1/20/12
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Thanks, Sun. I will give it a try.

Jun

Jun

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Jan 20, 2012, 9:57:28 PM1/20/12
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Hi Sun,
It is indeed working. Can you let me know why?
Thanks,
Jun

shoutian sun

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Jan 20, 2012, 11:21:05 PM1/20/12
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Hi Jun,
Please have a look at this paper (the smooth method part):

J. VandeVondele et al. / Computer Physics Communications 167 (2005) 103–128

Title: QUICKSTEP Fast and accurate density functional calculations using a mixed Gaussian and plane waves approach


Regards,
SUN
CUHK
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