Everything I Wanted Midi

[Cecile Lilien]

Thekey for me being that all I really want to capture with midi is really the pitch material on the fly, and then to be able to go back and add rhythms later. (For myself, and I would imagine most people, rhythm is far easier to remember and work out from memory than pitch is).

The closest thing is Finale (not sure if there is a forum policy about mentioning competing software,.if there is, apologies) with simple entry set to crotchets, you just play, and everything ends up being crotchets, then you go back and adjust rhythms.

I wonder if it is our mindset - that it might be more effective to be in the Piano roll of the PLAY tab for that kind of writing? I watched a couple of Spitfire library walkthroughs where a film composer was playing MIDI into the Cubase Piano roll, and then editing.

Dorico can change the written notation based on adjustments made in the Piano roll - so we can play them however we like, change the duration and rhythm first by dragging on the roll before fussing with insertion and note types? At least go into the notation view with something closer?

Imho the midi tracks are being stored within the parts per bank per project

So new part - new midi track setup up

Global midi settings (transport, sync, channel, etc) are being stored within project settings

OctaEdit has a Library in it; which allows you to have Entries. Entries can be at essentially any level, Bank, Part, Midi Machines, Midi Machine, Note, Arp etc. Any other questions you want about OctaEdit, feel free to ping me a pm.

Personally I use OctaEdit (no surprise there); and just have library entries for everything I want / need. Normally I use six midi machines for Virus TI; spread across six midi channels; one midi channel for Analog Rytm; and the last for secret squirrel business.

I very recently tried to organize my files on the octatrack using the usb disk mode but completely did this without understanding how midi is stored on my octatrack. I think I deleted a few sets or something and now all my projects are gone. Any chance OctaEdit can help me recover these projects and all this midi?

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Hi chaps now this should be simple I checked out a YT but it still doesnt work .all I kept getting is the midi file i wish to export has other files within included and it will export , Ive also marked the keybord file and muted all the other files

You can also make the Cakewalk window mid-sized, so that you can see the desktop, and just drag a midi track's selected clips to the desktop, and it will save as a midi file. I always rename the midi clip first, but it is not required.

As for audio tracks, you can export each track, or the whole mix, and select Broadcast Wave as the output file type, and that track or those tracks, will be able to be read by your friend's DAW, as well.

Another choice for exporting audio, whether each audio track separately, or the whole mix, is the *.omf format for the output file(s), which is supposed to be an open file format that all the major DAW software should be able to import.

Hope the above addresses your question/issue, and if not, just post back, and I will try to better help you, though I am heading to bed now, but will keep an eye out for any additional posts from you. zzzzzzzzzzz

hi marled , yes that was excactly my expirience I only wanted to send the keys and it saved the while project etc ect , Ive tried dragging and droping Im just waiting a for a response from my friend in the U:K. with bated breath cheers PB

What I really don't understand is why it is not possible to simply export MIDI like audio. It would be a logical solution: Select one or more MIDI clips, then use Export->MIDI, finally you could choose the MIDI type and file name. This is my way to understand common sense! ?

So I guess from what people are saying, if there are other tracks in the Cakewalk Project, somehow the keyboard track needs to be isolated and saved as a midi file. Evidently, exporting a single midi track doesn't work. (Not sure why not, but I don't do a lot of exporting.)

Ive opened up a can of worms here ,,I wanted to send a friend who has another DAW (not bandlab) a midi Keybord track , logically I muted all the unwanted tracks and marked the keybord track that I wanted in the project , and it still didnt work, Ive taken the advice of copying and pasting onto the screen Im still awaiting a reply from my freind in the U.K. to see if he can use it ,I have a sneaky feeling he`ll only be able to open it with bandlab ...watch this space ......

Oh!!!! Are you using Bandlab--the web-browser based, social networking oriented app? or Cakewalk? I had assumed you were talking about Cakewalk because (1) this is the Cakewalk Forum and (2) everyone else seemed to be replying as if you were talking about Cakewalk.

If you mentioned Cakewalk, I didn't see it. Everyone else replied re: Cakewalk. So maybe that's why their suggestions do not make any sense. If so, its not a can of worms, just a classic case of miscommunication.

Oh thankyou 905133 : I asumed that it would be obvious that Im using bandlab cakewalk ,and the person im sending it doesnt, but hey I thought it was a quick easy question with a quick easy answer maybe i could have explained it better ...its not a big deal , thanks for your constuctive input .

1) When you export MID,I all the MIDI tracks get exported in the file. (When you import the file, each track gets loaded into its own track.) If you have bass and drums you can't choose to export only one of them. If you don't want to include the drum MIDI you must delete it before exporting. (Muting tracks, FX, etc is for mixing down to audio.) Deleting tracks temporarily is dicey, you might accidentally save with the track deleted, that is why I said save under another name first.

Like mentioned above just drag and drop the keyboardpart onto the desktop. Then open it again with cakewalk and save as with the format you want (MIDI 0 i guess). Would be helpful to know which programm your buddy uses.

Thanks baloonhead , It does seem to be a longwinded way of dong things I cant understand why fantastic bandlab doesnt have a feature to export a seperate midi file ? once thansk for taking the time to answer vheers PB

There may come a time when "Save As" does something with archive and mute when exporting MIDI. In a regular project file these track states have meaning and are preserved when saving to a new name. They have no equivalent in the MIDI standard.

Currently, if the MIDI file must be pared down to a subset of the project's MIDI data (and still contain all the MIDI "project" data) it must be done by removing the unneeded MIDI data from the project.

Serious noob question here.

I have a Drambo file with 3 tracks - all going out on different midi channels. I want to use multiple instances of a single synth (Factory, for example) and assign each channel to a different patch. It just outputs all channels at once.

I'm able to achieve this in ApeMatrix but don't know how to do it in Audiobus3.

Am I just daft?

You could run Drambo in standalone mode and send the Midi to Audiobus Virtual midi. That will respect your channel assignments, but you get no tempo/transport sync between Drambo and Audiobus (which sucks for a lot of setup situations).

I'm not sure I understand that question. It stores everything needed for the project. That includes all the sequenced notes and automation, synth settings, routings, any audio used in any samplers, etc. But it's not like something like a DAW that would store audio clips, midi files, etc. It also isn't storing any tracks as audio files (though it will export a song or individual tracks as audio.) It doesn't export midi, and I don't think stores its sequence data as midi.

You can send MIDI out to different channels if you configure the outputs that way. However, Audiobus 3 doesn't have the concept of channel filtering internally without something like mfxConvert to do that for you. AUM is more convenient from that perspective.

Hello - I've written some code on the Teensy and converted it to work on the Mega. I need two outputs for my Midi data - USB and Serial. Both work great on the Teensy. On the Mega the serial works just great, however the USB doesn't seem to be doing anything.

You don't need a different library, but there are many different libraries available, using a library is often easier than writing everything from scratch.

But you do need to understand the hardware limitations of the Mega, and understand how you can use custom firmware for the secondary microcontroller to do MIDI over USB.

What are you mean as "MIDI over USB" ? From the Arduino side, the USB connection is nothing more than yet another Serial interface.

If you talk about the support of the work with USB hardware - this does not apply to arduino Mega at all, whether you use the library or not, because the Mega mcu does not have native USB support.

I want to send midi signals via USB and Serial at the same time. In order to do this, I have to use a flash a new firmware which allows another chip on the Mega to send midi via USB. In addition to the firmware, I need a new library (Control_Surface) that has been developed specifically to allow this.

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