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Watching today's TO DO got me wondering about this, since Yeonjun said something along the lines of "We used to go on a trip together just us [five] every year but we haven't been able to since debut...". This stuck out to me because it would seem to imply it happened on more than one occasion, but have they been together as a finalized group for more than a year before debut? Is there any info on this? I recall they spent some time training (as a group already I believe) in the USA so it doesn't seem that far-fetched to think they knew the lineup of the group for what seems to me like a long time.

Alternatively the 'us' might include other friends/trainees, or the 5 might have been hanging out as a group since before they knew they'd debut together. Or something might have been added/lost in the weverse translation? What do you think? Besides Soobin and Kai, have they mentioned being friends as trainees?

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I've been paying attention the group since predebut but only started keeping up with them this year, so I'm not too aware of what order they joined the company. I've heard Yeonjun and Taehyun have known each other the longest so I guess they were first, and Kai joined after Soobin for sure, but I'm not sure where Beomgyu fits. I've already seen the boys talk about how they got casted and what experiences made them want to pursue music, I'm more curious about the trainee period itself. If anyone can point me to interviews/articles where they talk about the group formation process, if there are any, I'd be very grateful!

In the One Piece movie: strong world which took place after Brook joined the crew (somewhere between thriller bark and sabaody archipelago, Luffy says that the crew has been together for years now (pre-time skip).

From the reminders panel you can add as many events as you want so you never forget anyone's birthday, Valentine's Day, or whatever occasion you celebrate together and don't want to forget. Been Together lets you manage everything that surrounds your life as a couple.

The first sentence (We would have been together...) implies that your relationship was in the past (i.e. that you're no longer together), and it could also mean that August was in the past. Statements like this are called continuous conditional. You can learn more about continuous conditional expressions here. As the word "conditional" suggests, these phrases describe an outcome that is dependent on a condition, for instance:

This example would most often be used as a past unreal conditional + continuous, indicating that last August you would have been together for three years, if you had stayed together. It could also be future unreal conditional, meaning that by the time August comes, you would have been together for three years, if you had stayed together.

The second sentence (We will be together...) is not quite grammatically accurate yet. It implies that you will be together for three years, all in August. You can do a lot of things in August, like run a marathon:

As with many music hall songs, the lyrics dealt with poverty and sex differences. When introducing the song, Chevalier would enter dressed as an elderly Cockney man with his elderly partner. They would head towards a workhouse, whereupon the porter would separate them under the sex segregation rules. Chevalier's character would cry out in refusal, "you can't do this to us; we've been together for forty years!" The porter and woman then exited the stage, and Chevalier would begin the song.[1]

In a segment of Beatles Anthology concerning the Beatles receiving the Order of the British Empire, Ringo Starr claims that during their audience with Queen Elizabeth she asked how long the group had been together, he and Paul McCartney spontaneously sang We've been together now for forty years in jest, to the Queen's bemusement.[12]

So you've been with your partner for a long time. It's time to start considering yourselves common-law married, a sort of "marriage-like" status that triggers when you've lived together for seven years. Right?

For one, common-law marriage, which traces its roots to old English law, isn't a nationwide thing. It exists in only a small number of states. Unless you live in one of those states, getting hitched will involve an official "I do" ceremony. Alabama had been one of the states that recognize common-law marriages, but it recently moved to abolish it, a trend that has been taking place nationwide for years.

Angela and Kevin had been together for 23 years. (We're not using their last names because this story is about their case and not the couple.) According to the judge's decision, "Angela saw Kevin kissing another woman, which in turn prompted Angela to throw Kevin out of the house." Angela argued the couple had agreed to be married back in 1995 and present themselves as husband and wife to family and friends. Kevin testified that they did not have a marital commitment.

"We vacationed together, we had family portraits, family parties, interacted with my family, his family," Angela told NPR. "I have a sister who's been married and together with her husband just as long as I and Kevin were, and we live lives just like they did."

Since marriage is more than just sharing a home and life together, the judge examined everything from how legal and medical documents were filled out to seemingly mundane details of the couple's life. According to Judge Patricia Asquith's decision, some legal and medical documents named Angela as Kevin's spouse and beneficiary; on others, they listed themselves as single. Asquith heard testimony from witnesses who said the couple took vacations together, who considered them to be a married couple and who said they shared a bedroom at home. Kevin said he slept in the basement.

Still, the ruling shows that though Kevin insisted the couple may have been engaged at one point, they never made it official and that he never considered himself married to her. He argued that though a photograph showed him wearing what the judge called a "typical wedding band" on his left hand, he simply liked the ring, not that it signified marriage. The decision carefully articulates how they generally kept separate finances and never filed joint taxes.

The trial to determine whether they had a common-law marriage lasted a year and a half. In her ruling, Asquith concluded "by clear and convincing evidence" that Angela and Kevin had been married by common law since 1995.

It's a legal relic left over, in this country, from the early days of the American colonies and from old ideas about marriage and couples that live together. Back then, traveling to find someone to officiate a wedding was difficult, and cohabitating and having children out of wedlock was socially unacceptable. Common-law marriage gave those couples legitimacy and a way to pass on property.

"A very typical context would be a woman has lived with a man and has been totally financially dependent on him. He's the one who's been earning money, she's been doing the housework. [It's a] very traditional kind of relationship, but they never officially got married," says Jill Hasday, family law professor at the University of Minnesota Law School. "[Without common-law marriage], she's not entitled to any Social Security benefits because that's all through paid work. If they were legally married, she could collect spousal benefits or if he's dead, widow's benefits. But because they were not officially married, she gets nothing."

So as couples live together in record numbers, should the unwitting common-law marriage be a concern? For couples who live together in states with common-law marriages and want their wishes to remain unmarried to be unambiguous, partners can write and sign a document stating their intentions to stay unmarried.

In Norway, couples who live together and have children together are also given some marriage-like rights. Norwegian inheritance laws were changed in 2008 so that couples with children could receive up to $34,000 if their partner dies without having written a will.

"Cohabitation has during the last decades been widely accepted in society in Norway; about a quarter of the couples (or a fifth of all grownups) cohabit, and more than half of the children are today born before their parents (eventually) marry," Katrine Fredwall, who helped write the law, says in an email to NPR. "To take on a more or less unpaid workload while caring for children, being the homemaker or working part-time, made in particular the mothers vulnerable and in need for protection by the law."

It goes without saying that the only cliché worse than celebrating Valentine's Day is the people who hate it. So in order to celebrate Valentine's Day in the most neutral way possible I'm spending a day with 86-year-old Giorgos and 82-year-old Maria, who have been together for 60 years. My thinking being that they should have gained a pretty balanced view of love by now.

Their first few years together were tough. They had no money and had to work hard to get by. Maria worked as a seamstress and spent her days travelling all over the city, visiting rich women in their homes. "The needle is my love, my friend to this very day," she explains, showing me works of handmade embroidery that she has made for her children and grandchildren.

I ask them what everyday life is like. "We have a great time together," says Maria. "We get up in the morning, eat breakfast, go do our shopping and then George helps me with the housework and all the cleaning. When lunchtime comes along we'll eat, then settle down for a nap. George then gets up and reads his books or watches television. I just sit here and knit." George then takes over and starts telling me about all the handiwork he's done around the house, proudly revealing the workshop he has on the roof.

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