Hornady 7th Edition Reloading Manual
Eloisa Stawasz
I am getting ready to work up a new load for my 270 WSM, and was wondering if anyone has the newest edition of Hornady's reloading data? I am looking for Data on the 145gr ELD-X. Please pm me if you can help me. Thanks
Hornady still likes to sell the loading data. You don't need data specific to a certain bullet, the weight is the major issue. Most powder manufactures have load data for free on their website. Check the website for the powder you want to use. If they do not list a 145 gr bullet use the start charge for the 150 gr bullet and carefully work up.
Featuring over 1,000 pages of reloading data, techniques and bullet information, handloaders will have access to over 200 different calibers featuring a variety of loads for the full line of Hornady bullets, from 17 caliber varmint cartridges to large dangerous game loads.
New Hornady bullets have been added, including the ELD-X and ELD Match bullet lines. In addition, there have been extensions to the GMX, SST and FTX lines. New cartridges include the 280 Ackley Improved, 7x64 Brenneke and the 338 Federal. Well over 1,300 load combinations were shot to update and expand the reloading pages in this edition.
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Does anyone have a link to load data for the 178gr ELD-m with Varget and CCI BR-2 primers. I went to Hogden web site and they only listed 4064 power for the 178 ELD-M. If I have to buy another new book I will if it has this data. I really would like to see several different loads. I know that I need to reduce the starting load because I am using LC once fired brass to build this load. Thanks for any help.
Thank you. The ELD-X bullet is very hard to find. That was what I was trying to get when I got the ELD-M. I will see if I can get some Accurate 2495 and some of the ELD-X in 178 gr. I have a Remington 700 CDL Tactical heavy 20 inch Barrel Rifle that will shoot small one hole groups with 150 gr. Hornady bulk 150 gr. FMJ and CFE-223 powder at 100 yards. Don't know the speed of the bullet out of that rifle. I am going to try the EDL-M in my factory original DPMS LR-308 18 inch heavy fluted barrel rifle.
Hornady 11 Manual lists 178 ELD-X under .308 Winchester, and in Service Rifle, it lists 178 ELD-M - Varget loads for both. Shoot the ELD-X with the same charge, and work up. The Hornady manuals are always about 10% low, in their recommended max charges. From what I've see in real life. You won't see pressure signs until you cross 10% above what they list for a max charge, or more.
Better overall BC in both G1 and G7 drag models. Just putting the two of them in JBM Ballistics software, the X outperforms the M at distance. Bonus that the X is a very viable hunting projectile, which just happens to outperform their target round...
I know I'm a bit off topic and apologize in advance. I've been thinking about getting into reloading and have a friend who has a fair amount of experience and is willing to show me the ropes. Problem is, said friend is poor and lacking supplies. Namely powder and primers. I don't mind purchasing supplies. But don't really know what I'm looking for. We'd be working up 308 loads. I briefly looked at Midway, which is my go to for lotsa stuff, but they seem to be out of all powder and CCI primers (the stuff mentioned in this thread). If someone could give me a shortlist of appropriate powders, primers and reputable sources, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Hornady Custom Die set uses different seating seating stems for each bullet. I now have 100 each eld 187 gr. Match and X. I also now have both seating stems. They fit slightly different on the bullets. I will have to keep them separated in my reloading storage bens.
I don't have a source for powder on line. I buy local to keep from paying HSAmat charges. I just bought the Hornady 11 edition reloading book. I tried to get it on my Kindle Reader or my I Phone 6 but both versions were not available for purchase at this time. $20 per year with updates or $50 for the book. O Well. Nobody ever said these things were inexpensive. ???
Think I'm just going to have to put reloading on the back burner. Powders and primers are simply unavailable locally. And, by my limited math skills, it looks like a # of powder is only good for about 150-175 rounds anyway. So, I'm just stocking up on the factory ammos, which I've tested and work well for me, and which I can get hold of. I will keep an eye out for powders and primers, but I'm done searching for them - for now. Flippin' hunting for unicorns in this economy. FJB
Have found some decent factory ammo prices at budsgunshop.com lately. Some of their offerings qualify for free shipping if you order at least $199. Among these are Fed Powershok 150g, which does fine in my gun, and is fine for deer hunting at $23.45/box ($1.17 per round). Also, if you've ordered from them within the last 30 days, they give you a coupon code for $5. There are also some quality (IMO) target and match rounds that qualify for free shipping. Options are good - and these guys are whipping my local guys in choices and and price at the moment.
I don't know if this will help you or not. But this off Hornady app for service rifle loads for 308 using 178 bullets. Its a screen snap shot I took of only the high end of the loads, didn't think you want to shoot them real slow.
I usually find myself about 10% over the max load in any Hornady reloading manual, have for years, for my best load. They're gonna be conservative, because they don't want someone brand new to reloading -blowing themselves up from a mistake. It's a liability issue.
Barnes reloading manuals are a little different - if you're shooting the exact same barrel length and twist as what they tested, they straight tell you what the most accurate load was, right in the book and load data.
If you have no pressure signs (pierced primers, cratered primers, really flattened primers, ejector swipes that leave a GROOVE not a slight mark - loads so hot that it blurs the case head marks and makes them hard to read...) - then run the load.
98Z5V i would normally agree, until GRT displayed the skull and crossbones with that load, lol.. i will find a lower node and take it easier on my rifle. will post results when i get them.. just got a Frankfort powder dispenser, talk about time saver. no more dump, trickle wait trickle wait trickle wait.. so im having a lot of fun reloading and shooting.
your right about this rifle liking the pressure, most of my loads are towards the top of manufacturers recommendations. With the Gordons Reloading tool I could see what pressures im producing, hopefully. the fpsit gives me is usually within 20fps to my Magnospeed.
my fps actual differed from GRT, it was less. need to find which variable needs adjusting. thought it would be the volume, but had to add 1-2 grains of capacity to get actual fps. measured a couple of cases with water and the opposite was true. had less volume, which should equal more fps
The variable that needs adjusting is going back to your old load that worked great, and showed no pressure signs. The variable you introduced was this GRT tool. I don't see why you're relying on it so heavily, and changing everything just because of it. Get rid of it.
I scored a bunch of inexpensive 115 Hornady HP/XTP (and 115 HAP) bullets at a local estate sale. I started loading these bullets using data from the 4th edition of Hornady's manual - which lists the max load of Win 231 as 5.5 grains at a COL of 1.050. I tried about 100 and they worked great in my Glock 34 Gen 5 MOS - extremely accurate and 100% reliable.
I realized that my book was getting pretty old (okay, really old) so I bought their latest volume, the 10th edition. The load data for the 115 HP/XTP with Win 231 is significantly different in the newer volume. So, I tried it. The max listed load for Win 231 is now 4.7 grains (versus 5.5) and the Hornady listed COL is longer -now 1.075 versus 1.050. I did a 100 or so rounds and while they were still extremely accurate, functioning was terrible. I got 2-3 failures to feed for every 25 rounds - each time the round was jammed bullet up into the chamber.
And more importantly, what's a better load and length for these bullets in my Glock 34? I want to use Win 231 if possible since I have so much of it. I do have quite a bit of TiteGroup too, so I can change if necessary.
I think the main difference is the decreased powder charge from the newer manual. My G34 (which is the only gun I tried the load in) has the stock recoil spring assembly so it seems like the gun just doesn't want to function with the lighter load. Even though I always tell people who ask me for reloading advice to buy a current manual and follow it, in this case I might just go back to the older data. And yes, I should test the load over a chronograph, but just haven't had the time to do it yet.
Featuring over 1,000 pages of reloading data, techniques and bullet information, the 11th Edition Handbook gives hand loaders access to over 200 different calibers featuring a variety of loads using Hornady bullets. You'll find an impressive lineup of new and expanded data that incorporates new powders, new bullets like the ELD-X and ELD Match, plus more cartridges like the 280 Ackley Improved, 7x64 Brenneke and the 338 Federal. Well over 1,300 load combinations were shot to update and expand the reloading pages in this edition. Whether you're a novice or seasoned hand loader, this book will provide everything needed to successfully reload your favorite cartridges.
Manual is comprehensive but Hornady is discontinuing too many projectiles. A lot of the powders referenced are difficult(impossible) to find locally.
Rebel Gun Works provided very good service considering the current (August 2020) postal issues.