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Daniel Thompson

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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I can't make distiller work. I get..
%%[ Error: WP-IconicSymbolsA cannot be embedded due to licensing
restrictions.]%%

How can I fix this without replacing all the symbols.

James J Wynn

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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My understanding is that WP didn't license its fonts to Adobe and, as
a result, they can not be embedded in a pdf document created with
Acrobat 4.

Acrobat 3 works ok, I believe.

I am not aware of a workaround for Acrobat 4 (although it looks like
the fonts embed ok if you use WP's publish to PDF 'feature' - ie, I'm
able to view a document created with WP Publish to PDF with Acrobat
Reader 4.05).

I know there was some discussion regarding this on the Corel forums
when Acrobat 4 first came out, and I recall faintly that the issue
was sent up to Corel - but I haven't heard anything in the months
since.

C_Tech's?

Jim Wynn
Augusta GA

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Charles Rossiter

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Daniel,

I believe that most of these font embedding restrictions have been
resolved with the release of SP2 for WPO2000.


Daniel Thompson wrote:
>
> I can't make distiller work. I get..
> %%[ Error: WP-IconicSymbolsA cannot be embedded due to licensing
> restrictions.]%%
>
> How can I fix this without replacing all the symbols.

--
Charles Rossiter
(South Africa)
Volunteer C_Tech
{Please reply to group only}


James J Wynn

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Charles, I hope that you're right. I've been delaying upgrading to
Acrobat 4 due to this issue.

Jim Wynn
Augusta GA


In article <3895E37...@iafrica.com>, ross...@iafrica.com says...

James J Wynn

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More than you'd ever want to know about font embedding:

http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/fonts1.html

See part 3 especially for statements from Corel.

When I check the font properties of the WP fonts after installing MS'
font properties extensions
(http://www.microsoft.com/typography/property/property.htm), most report
'No embedding allowed,' although WP Typographic Symbols reports
'Installable embedding allowed.'

Lloyd Hayes

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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I ran into a problem creating .PDF files with photos embedded. But with
straight text, I have not problem creating the files and opening them with
Acrobat Reader 4.

James J Wynn <jw...@mail.mcg.edu> wrote in message
news:MPG.12ffe703d...@cnews.corel.com...


> Charles, I hope that you're right. I've been delaying upgrading to
> Acrobat 4 due to this issue.
>
> Jim Wynn
> Augusta GA
>
>

Ian Langfield-Smith

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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Danial

What version of distiller are you using. If you have Acrobat 4, have you
installed the replacement CD sent by Adobe to registered owners. (This
give version 4.0.5).

GARY ASH

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I just installed the Acrobat 4.05 updated version and I still get the
font embedding problems. I am using Wp 9.0.0.664 and the font embedding
are still a problem as follows:
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[ Warning: WPMathA cannot be embedded due to licensing
restrictions.]%%
%%[ Warning: WPGreekCentury cannot be embedded due to licensing
restrictions.]%%
%%[ Warning: WPIconicSymbolsA cannot be embedded due to licensing
restrictions.]%%
%%[ Warning: WPMathExtendedA cannot be embedded due to licensing
restrictions.]%%
%%[ Page: 1 ]%%
%%[ Page: 2 ]%%
%%[ Page: 3 ]%%
%%[ Page: 4 ]%%
%%[ LastPage ]%%

We have moved to a pdf workflow for our reports and have been having all
kinds of problems due to these font restrictions when we print the
report at the service bureau (they don't have WP installed on there
server, so no access to the fonts not embedded). I have tried WP publish
to PDF, but it chokes and crashes with our documents.

We have made the decision to go to the PDF format so if Corel does not
get their act together damn quick, we are going to have to go to that
other (MS) alternative. What a shame that would be!!! COREL ARE YOU
LISTENING????????

Charles Rossiter

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Feb 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/6/00
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Gary,

I understood that you could embed the characters used in the file, even
if not the entire font. And you could consider returning to Acrobat
Distiller 3, until Adobe has resolved the problems of their
restrictions.

--

Mayer Goldberg

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On 5-Feb-2000, GARY ASH <gar...@home.com> wrote:

> I just installed the Acrobat 4.05 updated version and I still get the
> font embedding problems. I am using Wp 9.0.0.664 and the font embedding
> are still a problem as follows:
> %%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
> %%[ Warning: WPMathA cannot be embedded due to licensing
> restrictions.]%%
> %%[ Warning: WPGreekCentury cannot be embedded due to licensing
> restrictions.]%%
> %%[ Warning: WPIconicSymbolsA cannot be embedded due to licensing

>....

> We have moved to a pdf workflow for our reports and have been having all
> kinds of problems due to these font restrictions when we print the
> report at the service bureau (they don't have WP installed on there
> server, so no access to the fonts not embedded). I have tried WP publish
> to PDF, but it chokes and crashes with our documents.
>
> We have made the decision to go to the PDF format so if Corel does not
> get their act together damn quick, we are going to have to go to that
> other (MS) alternative. What a shame that would be!!! COREL ARE YOU
> LISTENING????????

I don't understand: Why can't you use WordPerfect's pdf creating abilities
for WordPerfect files, and then use Acrobat's ability to combine existing
pdf files from different sources to manage your PDF files? This may require
an extra step, but should work.

Finally: I've had many problems with various fonts on my system due to
licensing. For some amazing reason, PDF writer doesn't cause these problems.
So I use PDF Writer to generate those documents that use my licensed,
"exotic" fonts. :) This may work for you.

The situation with font licensing is far from ideal!

Mayer

Jim Wynn

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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There are NEW fonts that allow embedding on the ftp server (just uploaded
by Corel in the last couple of days).

JW


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David Hart

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I've had excellent results simply opening the WPD in Adobe 4 (you can;t
creat a PDF using Distiller). I have had terrible results using WP's publish
to PDF option. Thre's no reason to mix the two that I now of.

--
David Cary Hart
Cary Hart Associates, Executive Search
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James J Wynn

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Why can't you create a PDF using Distiller???

Jim Wynn
Augusta


In article <38c3c5b1@cnews>, davi...@caryhart.com says...

David Hart

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Distiller won;t convert a WPD (not for me anyway).

--
David Cary Hart
Cary Hart Associates, Executive Search

"James J Wynn" <jw...@mail.mcg.edu> wrote in message

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James J Wynn

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If you print to the _Distiller Assistant_ from within WordPerfect, it
should result in a PDF file (Distiller Assistant is like a PostScript
printer, I think - it takes the WP print output, converts it to PS
format, which the actual Distiller program then 'distills' to the PDF
file. This has always worked perfectly for me under Win 98 (for some
reason, I can't remember how well it worked under NT, but I have not
been able to get Distiller Asst to work under Win2K; I have to print to
a file using a PS printer and then use Distiller to generate the PDF
file.)

JW

In article <38c3e4a8@cnews>, davi...@caryhart.com says...

David Hart

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Why not just open the WPD in the Acrobat Maker? Works fine for me and saves
a step.

--
David Cary Hart
Cary Hart Associates, Executive Search
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Ron Wingfield

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Mar 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/9/00
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I just tried to open a WPD in Acrobat. It started a translation process,
invoked WordPerfect, crashed once or twice, finally created a duplicate of
the original WPD in the plug_ins\translate\temp (...something, ...I'm not
sure of the path) folder. Now, following the crash, a WordPerfect document
printed through the Acrobat Distiller appears as a "blank" document.

I can successfully print from within VISO 3.0 to the Acrobat Distiller and
create a "good" PDF. However, I have noticed that after the crash, all of
the Distiller Preferences regarding Output Options were reset (i.e.,
unchecked) and I had to reset them to enable the Distiller to prompt for
the destination folder, rather than automatically defaulting to ..\PDF
Output.

I have just acomplished an interesting result. While reseting the
Distiller Preferences Output Options, I also clicked on the Capture Printer
Port option. Now the WordPerfect document will successfully print to the
Acrobat Distiller, again. I have also continued the experiment by clicking
the End Printer Capture option, and the WordPerfect to Distiller to PDF
scenario still works. I don't know if that had any thing to do with it or
not.

I do appreciate your suggestion. When I get my courage back up, I'm going
to try it again.

Charles Rossiter

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Mar 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/10/00
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Ron,

I have deleted your message, because of the file upload. The body of
the message is below. Please do NOT upload any files to the news
groups. Most people will not open them because of the risk of virus
contamination. This also increases costs for those who have to pay for
telephone calls by the time-unit. You could reasonably offer to send the
file by e-mail to anyone willing to test. Thanks for your
understanding.


Ron Wingfield wrote:
>
> Hello James,
>
> I have had an incogitable experience with Acrobat 4.0, Windows95, and
> WordPerfect8. At this point, I don’t know who is the major party at fault.
> I’ve attached the latest of my problem description and analysis documents
> which I’ve e-mailed to Acrobat Tech Support.
>
> This morning, I have uninstalled and reinstalled Corel Suite 8. Now the
> Acrobat 4.0 Distiller will successfully translate the WordPerfect 8
> document into a PDF by selecting the WordPerfect print operation while
> designating the printer as the Acrobat Distiller. Remember that I first
> had to manually configure the Acrobat Distiller (PostScript) printer device
> driver as indicated in the attached PDF. I still do not know what was
> damaged, or why?
>
> I hope this insight may help.
>
>
> Name: Acrobat Case #3077338.006.pdf
> Acrobat Case #3077338.006.pdf Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream)
> Encoding: x-uuencode

Ron Wingfield

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I don't understand. The files were PDF documents. What's the point in
having the attachment feature if it is not to be used?

Charles Rossiter <ross...@iafrica.com> wrote in article
<38C89AD3...@iafrica.com>...

twig...@earthlink.net

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Mar 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/11/00
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Ron,

Many newsgroups prefer/request that attachments not be uploaded to the
newsgroups as does Corel. As Charles noted, many of our users live in
areas (such as England, South Africa, and Australia, to name a few)
where their time on the internet and/or the local phone calls are
charged by the minute and they don't have the Unlimited Internet Access
that many of us in the United States have. When they download messages,
those attachments add up.

As for your question about why have an attachment feature if it's not
used, that's useful for sending attachments to people who request them
or to newsgroups that don't request that you don't attach things to your
messages.

Finally, there is the ever present virus problem. Granted in a PDF
that's not a problem -- yet -- but it's easier for the newsgroup to have
a rule that says "No attachments" instead of "No attachments except for
..."

Hope this helps answer your question.

Lesley

Ron Wingfield

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Mar 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/11/00
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Well, that's their problem isn't it. If they don't want to read the PDF
attachments, then don't download them. This site should provide the
option!

The fact that the PDF pages provided much more information regarding a very
serious problem associated with Adobe Acrobat 4.0, than can be presented in
this scratch-pad space more than justifies the exchange of the PDF
doccument. The point of PDF document exchange is to expedite the speed and
efficiency of universal document exchange, including the web. Face it, one
or two pages of PDF don't take a lot of horse power.


Charles Rossiter

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Mar 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/11/00
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Ron,

Almost all messages with attachments are deleted from the BizApps news
groups. Small ones are accepted in the graphics area, where a picture
can be worth a 1000 words. But large ones are deleted there too. Here,
attachments should be kept for e-mails. I did send you an e-mail about
this as well, but it was returned as undeliverable.

The Corel news group guidelines include
"9.Do not post messages with large attachments as large
files fill up our servers quickly and annoy people who
download and read the newsgroups off-line."

The virus threat also remains real, even if the file appears to be
harmless. One known trick is to name a file:
"Test.PDF .exe"
and people do not see that it is an executable.

We have also had at least one example on these news groups of a virus
hidden at the end of an HTML message, and these are discouraged also.

In your case it would have been easy to quote your message to Adobe,
describing the content of your screen shot. This would have been safe,
and would also have been a much smaller message.


Ron Wingfield wrote:
>
> I don't understand. The files were PDF documents. What's the point in
> having the attachment feature if it is not to be used?
>

--

Steve Shattuck

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Mar 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/11/00
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wingfield" <rtw...@ionet.net>
Newsgroups: corelsupport.wordperfectoffice2000-wordperfect_troubleshooting
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Distiller


> Well, that's their problem isn't it. If they don't want to read the PDF
> attachments, then don't download them. This site should provide the
> option!

You really are a newbie aren't you? There is no ability in Usenet to "don't
download
them." The are encoded as an integral part of the message and while many
ISP's
simply delete messages over a particular size, it's impossible to do what
you
suggest. In fact to do so would be a sort of censorship.

If you keep insisting that you know more than anyone here, no one will be
inclined to help you.
愷_
(__
___)teve st...@shattuck.net

Jim Latham

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Mar 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/11/00
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If you want help on these newsgroups, it helps if you play by the
rules, rather than try to justify why you should be allowed to be the
exception. Many people and for sure most of the C_Techs, do not try to
read these messages while on-line, but instead download all the unread
messages since the last time they did so, as a batch. They (we) then
disconnect, read the messages, respond to those we choose to, then
reconnect and upload as a batch all the responses. Doing it in this
fashion we must choose to either not DL messages with file attachments
which means messages like yours would have not been picked up at all or
we get all the stuff attached. Thanks for your understanding.

Jim Latham [C_Tech - WP Suite]

Please post replies ONLY to the Newsgroup. Unsolicited e-mail
messages/attachments will be deleted w/o response.


Ron Wingfield

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Mar 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/11/00
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Honestly, that's fine. I've mailed a "personal" to your
ross...@iafrica.com address with an apology for "coloring outside of the
lines". Also, I've again tried to explain what I'm looking for with regard
to solving this Acrobat "white page" or "blank" PDF syndrome. I've just
returned form their User-to-User Forum ,which by the way is quite clunky
compared to Corel's, and I have scalded them for the design, and referred
them to your forum design as an example of a very easy to use tool.

This discussion is becoming trite, and I'm going to drop it, but with a
passing shot to suggest that from forum to forum, forum decorum (I like the
way that sounds, don't you? Maybe it sound clever to me because it's 4:12
AM CST here in Arkansas, USA. . ., and I've been whipping this dead horse
for six days) . . .forum decorum varies. Adobe discourages posting of
private Internet addresses -- they want all conversations to be shared, and
they encourage posting in html, etc.; on the other hand, you guys don't.
Whatever. . .

My main objective is to find a solution to the Acrobat 4.0 and apparently
4.+ problem with what is being referred to as "white page" or "blank" PDFs.
Go to their web site (www.adobe.com), find their User-to-User Forum
(don't even register unless you just want to), and search for "blank PDF".
There is a plethora of complaints, that pervade all platforms and
applications, MACS, Novell, Excel, NT, Windows9x, WordPerfect, Lotus Notes,
ASP ad nauseam. I'm beginning to think that there is a serious problem at
the PostScript driver level, perhaps some recently introduced bug, and (as
we say in the South (USA)), they won't own up to it.

Regardless, I have hoped to find some insight from the Corel side of the
coin. If I don't accomplish anything more than stirring up complaint
discussion threads on various user forums, perhaps I can contribute to a
level of embarrassment that will motivate them to the point of addressing
the problem.

Sincerely,
Ron Wingfield

Ron Wingfield

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Fine. . .

Now back to the problem,

What do you know about "white pages" or "blank" PDFs?

Debra Earle

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Mar 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/12/00
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Ron,

Side-stepping all the forum-to-forum, forum decorum issues (I like that
phrase, but it's 2am here!) ...

The only handle I've had on this at all is that it seems very dependent on
the printer driver. I've seen the problem w/documents from Word97 &
Word2000, as you indicate it does cut across apps.

But save me the trouble of going through the entire thread, tell me you have
at least updated with that new patch Adobe sent out? (I think it's 4.05 but
I don't own it, unable to verify.)

-- DE

Debra Earle

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Mar 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/13/00
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Please do e-mail me a copy of the document or one that exhibits the problem.

(Sent via e-mail & posted.)

-- DE
C_Tech
http://www.intranet-works.com [Law Office/Small Bus. Consulting, Used Stuff]
垂 Please reply to newsgroup for the benefit of all 遙


Ron Wingfield

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Mar 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/14/00
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Hello Debra,

Thank you so much for your considerate reply!

Regarding Acrobat version 4.05, not I have not loaded the update. I don’t
have it yet, but it is on order. That is to say that at least two Acrobat
Tech. Support people have offered to send it to me; however, and this is a
big HOWEVER, I have read of at least one reported instance of the “white
page” syndrome surfacing after installing the 4.05 update (see their
user-to-user forum). By the way (and per Adobe’s suggestion, I have also
downloaded and installed the latest version of their AdobePS 4.3.1 from
their website. This is THE Adobe PostScript printer device driver (after
all, they invented it. . .).

I have invested over 96 hours (yes, ninety-six since Sunday evening, March
5, 2000) of my time pursuing this problem (with dismal help form Adobe, I
might add). This afternoon, I have been able to repeatedly reproduce the
problem! I have eMailed a 7KB PDF to their attention (this is a one page,
7KB PDF document generated from a 6KB WordPerfect8 document) which
succinctly outlines the problem.

If you would like a copy of the actual PDF, or others that I have composed,
please let me know; my eMail address is rtw...@ionet.net. Regardless, the
following is the (revised as of 11:28 CST USA) text of that document (I now
understand that it is poor forum decorum to attach such a large document to
a Corel forum posting).

Thanks again for your interest and help,

Sincerely,
Ron Wingfield

P.S. You don’t need to be doing this sort of thing at 2 A.M.



==== From the PDF, RE: Acrobat Case # 3077338, subdocument .009 =======

Given the following two directory paths:

C:\temp\..

C:\user\dtc\text\projects\SIECOR\FX\FX_V3R0M0_Documentation\..


And a WordPerfect 8 document with the following long name:

BOZO with a very very long name used to test this theory.wpd


A successful, visible (i.e., not blank or white page) PDF can be printed
from within a WordPerfect 8 session by selecting the Acrobat Distiller as
the printer, if the document is located within (for example) the C:\temp\..
directory;

however,

a blank or white page PDF will be produced if the document (as named with
the very long name spelling) is located within the
C:\user\dtc\text\projects\SIECOR\FX\FX_V3R0M0_Documentation\..
directory;

however,

if the document is renamed to simply BOZO, then it can be successfully
printed to the Acrobat Distiller (i.e., virtual printer device driver),
regardless of the directory within which it is located.

This suggests that a program limitation exists with regard to the total
path length string when the Acrobat Distiller is translating a WordPerfect8
document. I have tested the same document configured as a Microsoft
WordPad document and the problem cannot be demonstrated.

It is deplorable that this kind of base programming error by omission
exists in the Adobe Acrobat Distiller system. All paths and name string
lengths should be permitted, in compliance with the Windows95 standard as a
minimum. There is absolutely no message from the Acrobat system that a
problem exists. Professional systems programmers should not permit this
type of error condition to go unreported.

Robert A. Haberlein, Ph.D.

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Mar 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/17/00
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David Hart wrote:
>
> Distiller won;t convert a WPD (not for me anyway).
>
> --
> David Cary Hart
> Cary Hart Associates, Executive Search
> "James J Wynn" <jw...@mail.mcg.edu> wrote in message
> news:MPG.132da3195...@cnews.corel.com...
> > Why can't you create a PDF using Distiller???
> >
> > Jim Wynn
> > Augusta
> >
> >
> > In article <38c3c5b1@cnews>, davi...@caryhart.com says...
> > > I've had excellent results simply opening the WPD in Adobe 4 (you can;t
> > > creat a PDF using Distiller). I have had terrible results using WP's
> publish
> > > to PDF option. Thre's no reason to mix the two that I now of.
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Cary Hart

I just attempted to convert a WPD file (a rather large one), and
Distiller won't convert for me either.

Dr. Rob Hab
Annapolis, MD


adavis

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Mar 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/17/00
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I have never seen any Acorbat documentation suggesting that Distiller would
directly convert a wpd file. Options are to load Acrobat 4 (not the reader, the
"full" program and open a wpd file; use WP9 to "publish to pdf file"; use WP to
print to a pdf file, assuming that you have installed the "full" Acrobat
package; use WP to print to a "distiller printer," assuming that you have
installed the "full" Acrobat package, and finally, the oldest way: use WP with a
postscript driver (try LaserJet Color PS which comes with Windows 95 and NT - or
so I recall) to print to a file. Then use distiller on the the postcript file.

mike

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Mar 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/18/00
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Be sure to get the latest Postcript printer from Adobe, ver. 4.31.059. To
find out what version you have in Acrobat Distiller, click on properties,
Paper, About (don't blame me -- I didn't design it <g>). Without that
version, you will get crashes galore. Also some crashes with Norton
Crashguard (Norton helpfully tracks the crask problem back to Test32.exe,
its own program.) Mike


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Charles Rossiter

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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Mike,

Just for info: the latest Postscript driver does not work with level 1
postscript (as my *old* printer uses).

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