How do I reduce a huge WP document size with images?
Steve Visser
imported into it. Because of size, I broke it into 3 documents, 1
having 70 images on 9 pages and is 88 MB. The others are about 15 to 20
MB but still larger than it seems they should be. I figure the entire
document based on the original jpeg image sizes should be no more than
about 25-30 MB.
I've gone through all the Corel Support areas and found several pages
that talk about copy and paste from the original to a new document.
Another with a "X" method: typing an X in a blank document, pasting in
the original file, and then deleting the X. Unless I'm doing something
wrong, the suggested methods don't seems to work. I've gone through
this newsgroup list and didn't really see this problem addressed (maybe
I missed it).
Running WP 7 version 7.0.2.45 on Win 98SE with 550MHz 128 MB Ram. Also,
my default printer is an Epson 600 but I eventually want to create a
print file using a driver I have of a Xerox Splash copier.
Is there a way to reduce large file size or do I put up with it, or
should I be using a different method (software??) of creating a document
with so many images?? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Steve Visser
Debra Earle
First, what you should ensure is that you are not saving undo/redo history
with the file, as that will vastly increase filesize when using images.
Use Edit, Undo/Redo history, and uncheck the box to save the history with
the file.
Second, keep in mind that JPEGs are "lossy" so they are designed to
compress on save, whereas once they are in the document they are WPG files
which are essentially rasterized files (basically TIFF format) and
therefore take up more room.
Assuming you are not sending the document to someone else who has
different programs, it is generally preferable to use OLE embedding of
images & keep the image on disk. This means that instead of inserting the
graphic/image or using cut&paste, you insert Object & choose "create from
file" and check the Link box. This will insert a "picture" of the file
instead of putting the full file contents into your document.
-- DE
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Steve Visser
>
> First, what you should ensure is that you are not saving undo/redo history
> with the file, as that will vastly increase filesize when using images.
> Use Edit, Undo/Redo history, and uncheck the box to save the history with
> the file.
>
> Second, keep in mind that JPEGs are "lossy" so they are designed to
> compress on save, whereas once they are in the document they are WPG files
> which are essentially rasterized files (basically TIFF format) and
> therefore take up more room.
>
> Assuming you are not sending the document to someone else who has
> different programs, it is generally preferable to use OLE embedding of
> images & keep the image on disk. This means that instead of inserting the
> graphic/image or using cut&paste, you insert Object & choose "create from
> file" and check the Link box. This will insert a "picture" of the file
> instead of putting the full file contents into your document.
>
> -- DE
Debra,
Forgot to mention that I did turn off the undo/redo but didn't find out
about that trick until I had most of the document done. Will turning
undo off midway through a task make the entire document smaller after
saving or do I need to go through the copy-paste process into a new
document with undo already turned off?
Your suggestions about OLE embedding sound great but unfortunately, I
will be sending this document out to get printed in quantity. Maybe I
should still use OLE and include the images along on the same disk??
Also, with what you said about JPEG and TIFF images, it sounds like I
should be using TIFF images in future documents such as this??
Steve
Debra Earle
Whether the OLE will work properly if you "link" instead may depend on the
receiving system. All I can suggest is that you try it.
For images, JPEGs will degrade each time you save them. I can't tell you
if that's right for your work, but if I were doing publishing-level
images, that's not the format I'd use. TIFF does tend to produce large
images but they keep their integrity; there are certainly other formats
to consider as well. The primary reason I use TIFF for certain things is
that the resolution is going to be good and the image is likely to keep
its integrity throughout a wide range of systems, won't depend on the
fonts on the receiving system, etc. however editing any *text* after that
point is next-to-impossible since it's completely rasterized.
When you have turned off undo/redo history after having it in the file,
the document tends to not shrink until you do the "x insert" process
described above. This also is a useful way to get rid of extra info that
may be in the document header, especially if you have embedded fonts etc.
Steve Visser
few things this weekend and hopefully come up with good results.
Haven't had the occasion to use newsgroups until now but I really
appreciate the support. Thanks much.
Steve
Ain Sarv
>Your suggestions about OLE embedding sound great but unfortunately, I
>will be sending this document out to get printed in quantity. Maybe I
>should still use OLE and include the images along on the same disk??
>
>Also, with what you said about JPEG and TIFF images, it sounds like I
>should be using TIFF images in future documents such as this??
To produce big documents for publishing, I recommande to use Adobe Acrobate
Distiller. Yu can get more information on their homepage www.adobe.com
I prepared in WP7 under last weeks a layout to an biographical lexicon,
which included biographies and photos of 225 persons. All the articles,
which included the pictures and was formatted in different styles, I
generated from an database, which was prepared as merge data file. The
final document included "Title and introduction" as subdocument, a list of
abbreviations, a person name index of 2000 persons, a geographical name
index of 500 names. The indexes I generated on the last moment before
printing, of course. All the publication was 316 pages. All the pictures was
prepared in Adobe PhotoShop, saved in TIFF-format and included to my book as
"Image on the disk".
I printed my work with an phantome printer called "Level 2 Filmsetter" to an
print file, which became about 40 MB. I distilled my print file with Adobe
Acrobat Distiller to an PDF-file. Options for distilling was, that pictures
will be reduced to 300 dpi resolution and all True Type fonts included. I
get the PDF-file of 20 MB.
I transported this file to a printer house. Notice - I need not to take my
pictures to printing house, the only was this 20 MB file. They distributed
my 316 pages and produced 40 ofset print plates, every one including 8
pages. It took about 3 hours. The book was then printed and binded within 30
hours.
I was sure, my printed work was exactly the same I was planned and could see
at my home.
Good luck!
Ain Sarv
Michael K. Kreisher
the document. I have done this successfully for several large
photo-documentaries I've created for my clients. I use a separate program,
e.g., PhotoShop or ThumbsPlus, to make the images smaller. Then I insert
them into the document. It saves space since the original files are smaller
to begin with.
Michael Kreisher