Runtime SP3 cannot find installed runtime
John Beukema
another user has not produced any response.
The following error message manifests when attempting a SP3 runtime install on a
NT machine:
"Your local system does not contain a valid version of Paradox 9
Runtime or Paradox 9 Distribution Expert. This service pack should only
be applied to either of these products."
and the installation terminates.
It goes without saying that there IS a valid runtime install on the machine.
Perhaps someone from the Corel InstallShield team could fill me in on what is
being looked for and how I can workaround.
Thanks,
John Beukema
John Beukema
http://www.qvri.com
Lance Leonard
Um, I though I saw several responses to the earlier postings. Did none of those
ideas help?
I've successfully installed both SP3's on a machine containing Pdx9, Pxr9, and
a PDE-based install of a Runtime9 application. Seemed to work just fine.
We're missing something...
-- L
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Client
for Paradox 9 Runtime, being told that I don't have a valid version of
Paradox 9 Runtime or Paradox 9 Distribution expert.
Like John Beukema, I'm working with an NT machine, which I didn't make
clear before.
If the problem has been discussed, can you please provide some of the
thread subject titles? The situation is getting somewhat pressing.
Resp'y Yrs,
Frederic Gooding, CSC
Lance Leonard
I don't recall the thread names, but you should be able to find them using
deja.com's Power Search to search *paradox groups in the recent archive for
messages containing SP3 and Runtime as keywords.
hope this helps...
-- Lance
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John Beukema
subject are the first. Really, I'm more interested in moving on than being the
center of attention. I'm reasonably experienced in install issues in general and
Paradox in particular, and this one is new to me.
This one doesn't work no matter where the SP3 file is located (CDROM or HD).
I reiterate my earlier request for what it is that the install is looking for. I
want to get a workaround ASAP.
On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:35:28 -0700, Lance Leonard <lleo...@alldev.nospam.com>
wrote:
>John,
>
>Um, I though I saw several responses to the earlier postings. Did none of those
>ideas help?
>
>I've successfully installed both SP3's on a machine containing Pdx9, Pxr9, and
>a PDE-based install of a Runtime9 application. Seemed to work just fine.
>
>We're missing something...
>
>-- L
>
>John Beukema wrote:
>>
>> I thought I'd bring this forward under a new title, as the original post from
>> another user has not produced any response.
>>
>> The following error message manifests when attempting a SP3 runtime install on a
>> NT machine:
>>
>> "Your local system does not contain a valid version of Paradox 9
>> Runtime or Paradox 9 Distribution Expert. This service pack should only
>> be applied to either of these products."
>>
>> and the installation terminates.
>>
>> It goes without saying that there IS a valid runtime install on the machine.
>>
>> Perhaps someone from the Corel InstallShield team could fill me in on what is
>> being looked for and how I can workaround.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John Beukema
>>
>> John Beukema
>> http://www.qvri.com
John Beukema
http://www.qvri.com
Lance Leonard
I'll see if I can dig up more information...
-- Lance
John Beukema wrote:
>
> I searched deja.com to no avail. I believe that Frederic and my posts on this
> subject are the first. Really, I'm more interested in moving on than being the
> center of attention. I'm reasonably experienced in install issues in general and
> Paradox in particular, and this one is new to me.
> This one doesn't work no matter where the SP3 file is located (CDROM or HD).
>
> I reiterate my earlier request for what it is that the install is looking for. I
> want to get a workaround ASAP.
>
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John Beukema
wrote:
Thanks, Lance
>John,
>
>I'll see if I can dig up more information...
>
>-- Lance
John Beukema
http://www.qvri.com
Mike Irwin [CTech]
I have Pdx9RT installed and patched with SP3 to 9.00.738 on my NT
Workstation (SP6a) here, without a problem. I have it installed to all
its default positions, excepting that the install drive is D: instead
of C:. Everything appears to work fine !.
Look in your HKEY_LOCAL hive of your registry. Under Software & Corel
you should find entries for both Paradox Distribution Expert and
Paradox Runtime, and a single entry "9.0" under each. Is there a
Destination and a SetupDirectory under each ?
In fact, could you possibly take a few minutes and copy out _all_ the
keys and their values for these two items, please, and send them to me?
Direct email is fine (mir...@voicenet.com), and probably easiest as a
set of screen captures (_please_ zipped !!!). I can take a look then
and see if you're just missing something that I can identify, and you
can easily replace it.
Mike
--
Mike Irwin
To find FAQs: group corelsupport.faqs.paradox on server cnews.corel.ca
" The knack to flying lies in learning the art of throwing
yourself at the ground ... and missing !"
John Beukema
The machine in question is in Colorado and I am in California. Further, the user
is not competent at under-the-hood issues. That, combined with the fact that the
machine is functioning as a POS terminal in a retail store, means that I will
have to wait until next weekend to get screen shots to you.
I have looked at my machines here, however, and find that my testbed for
installations (P166 Win 98) has no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ Corel
entries. I have installed across the network from an Installshield Express
script modified from the one posted in the FAQ. My Program runs finebut SP3 will
not install here, either.
The Colorado site also was installed from IS. There seems to be a consistency
here. IS claims to have a reg merge module, but it seems to be lacking
cosiderable detail.
Borland BDE registry settings are complete however. In retrospect, this seems
right, as my copy of IS Express comes from a Delphi 4 installation which is not
concerned with Runtime, only the BDE. It may be that the base script contained
in the FAQ also derives from the Delphi version and omits the Paradox details.
I'll write more after I inspect the IS script.
John
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 14:13:08 EDT, "Mike Irwin [CTech]" <mir...@voicenet.com>
wrote:
>John,
>
>I have Pdx9RT installed and patched with SP3 to 9.00.738 on my NT
>Workstation (SP6a) here, without a problem. I have it installed to all
>its default positions, excepting that the install drive is D: instead
>of C:. Everything appears to work fine !.
>
>Look in your HKEY_LOCAL hive of your registry. Under Software & Corel
>you should find entries for both Paradox Distribution Expert and
>Paradox Runtime, and a single entry "9.0" under each. Is there a
>Destination and a SetupDirectory under each ?
>
>In fact, could you possibly take a few minutes and copy out _all_ the
>keys and their values for these two items, please, and send them to me?
>Direct email is fine (mir...@voicenet.com), and probably easiest as a
>set of screen captures (_please_ zipped !!!). I can take a look then
>and see if you're just missing something that I can identify, and you
>can easily replace it.
>
>Mike
John Beukema
http://www.qvri.com
Michael Irwin [CTech]
you were when you installed the software
Mike
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John Beukema
John
On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:22:09 -0700, John Beukema <sup...@qvri.com> wrote:
>I searched deja.com to no avail. I believe that Frederic and my posts on this
>subject are the first. Really, I'm more interested in moving on than being the
>center of attention. I'm reasonably experienced in install issues in general and
>Paradox in particular, and this one is new to me.
>This one doesn't work no matter where the SP3 file is located (CDROM or HD).
>
>I reiterate my earlier request for what it is that the install is looking for. I
>want to get a workaround ASAP.
>
>On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:35:28 -0700, Lance Leonard <lleo...@alldev.nospam.com>
>wrote:
>
>>John,
>>
>>Um, I though I saw several responses to the earlier postings. Did none of those
>>ideas help?
>>
>>I've successfully installed both SP3's on a machine containing Pdx9, Pxr9, and
>>a PDE-based install of a Runtime9 application. Seemed to work just fine.
>>
>>We're missing something...
>>
>>-- L
>>
>>John Beukema wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought I'd bring this forward under a new title, as the original post from
>>> another user has not produced any response.
>>>
>>> The following error message manifests when attempting a SP3 runtime install on a
>>> NT machine:
>>>
>>> "Your local system does not contain a valid version of Paradox 9
>>> Runtime or Paradox 9 Distribution Expert. This service pack should only
>>> be applied to either of these products."
>>>
>>> and the installation terminates.
>>>
>>> It goes without saying that there IS a valid runtime install on the machine.
>>>
>>> Perhaps someone from the Corel InstallShield team could fill me in on what is
>>> being looked for and how I can workaround.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John Beukema
>>>
>>> John Beukema
>>> http://www.qvri.com
>
>
John Beukema
I think the registry exploration will bear more fruit.
John
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:56:54 -0400, "Michael Irwin [CTech]" <mir...@ctech.com>
wrote:
>Ensure that you're logged in as the same user - with the same abilities - as
>you were when you installed the software
>
>Mike
John Beukema
http://www.qvri.com
Mike Irwin [CTech]
under the "9.0". Either he wasn't seeing it because he was logged in as
someone else, or it broke somewhere.
Email me directly and I'll send you a copy of mine (if you can't read
the copy I posted yesterday) and, if you can fudge up an entry-set that
will work for you, I'll see about trying to write a form for the FAQs,
like I did for Standalone SP3
John Beukema
I modified the registry branch fragment to match my install and entered it
laboriously into the Installshield script. With the mysterious exception of the
Desktop key, all were entered appropriately in the register during the install
of my application.
After rebooting, I successfully applied SP3 Runtime patch.
I supect that the ParadoxDir and ParadoxLocalDir and perhaps the Destination
keys were the secret to applying the patch.
I will strip the IS script of my application-specific entries and provide it for
the InstallShield FAQ if you wish.
Thanks for all the fish!
John
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:25:32 EDT, "Mike Irwin [CTech]" <mir...@voicenet.com>
wrote:
>In article <l98aks0kqomsg9gvd...@4ax.com>, John Beukema
>wrote:
>> no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ Corel
>> entries.
>>
><hmmm>
>
>I'm attaching a dump of mine. I'd strongly suggest that you DO NOT just
>suck these up into your registry ! You'll also find that I have trashed
>the serial number, so you'll have to insert your own - 99999Z9999999
>doesn't work <g> !
John Beukema
http://www.qvri.com
Mike Irwin [CTech]
weekend, I hope ! The info from you would be handy - TIA
Mike
John Beukema
Under separate cover is an InstallSheild script drived from Jack Wasserman's
contribution to the FAQs.
I have made many changes to it, largely a reorganization of file locations: ALL
of my file locations are in D:\Program Files\Corel\PDE\ and its subdirectories.
This solves some versioning problems caused by taking BDE files from the local
installation and combining them with the possibly upgraded Runtime files which
are a part of the PDE. I have also increased granularity in file groups and
installation components.
Included also are your successful recommendations for registry additions which
all seem to take except for the declared string for "Desktop", the absence of
which has made no difference in function in my distribution.
The instructions for use of the script will be different from those in the
current FAQ, but it can easily be puzzled out by someone familiar with IS.
It will be a week or two before I can schedule documentation.
I have successfully used this on Win 98 and 95 machines, not yet on NT or 2000.
Thanks for your guidance in resolving my dilemma and augmenting the script.
John
John Beukema
http://www.qvri.com
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:09:35 EDT, "Mike Irwin [CTech]" <mir...@voicenet.com>
wrote:
>Great stuff, John !! We'll get this up for the FAQs sometime this
>weekend, I hope ! The info from you would be handy - TIA
>
>Mike
John Beukema
http://www.qvri.com
Mike Irwin [CTech]
weekend <g> !)
W.E.SMITH
successful installation of Paradox Runtime 9 with all the Registry
entries. (I have no clue why the installation wasn't receiving all the
entries before.)
Resp'y Yrs,
Frederic G.
Mike Irwin [CTech]
that will help people correct the install without getting their fingers
too "dirty" in the registry.
John Beukema
You will note that there is some application-specific information here that you
may want to change.
I couldn't make it work from within paradox, as if there are some restrictions
on modifying those specific keys while P9 runs. I made no attempt to isolate the
errors, choosing to go instead to a skeletal version of an Installshield script
as simpler for my remote clients. To be fair, I tested it under P9 Standard and
not Runtime.
I will apply myself to documenting that IS script this weekend.
John.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:54:07 EDT, "Mike Irwin [CTech]" <mir...@voicenet.com>
wrote:
>Thanks, Frederic. I hope to be able to post a small form in the FAQs
>that will help people correct the install without getting their fingers
>too "dirty" in the registry.
John Beukema
http://www.qvri.com