1/2 inch fat lines with Corel Draw 5?
Doug Avon
lines are printing at about 1/2" wide. I did not ask them to be fat,
they just do it. And it is not apparent on the screen that they are
even there until I zoom way in. Then, all of a sudden, the superthick
lines show up. And they eat up a lot of toner on my printer too. I
don't remember this ever happening before. I think it might have
something to do with the power line feature, because it seems to be
permanently set at .50 inches max width, but when I apply the power line
to any existing lines, it seems to work okay. This is not the only
glitch I have run into with this version of Corel, but most of the time
I can get around it. This one is quite irritating. I am using an HP
pavillion 75 Mhz unit with 40 MB RAM. Any ideas?
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Best Regards,
Doug Avon
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Jerry Sanderson [C_Tech]
>And it is not apparent on the screen that they are
>even there until I zoom way in.
You're not working in Wireframe mode, are you? If you select one of the lines
with the Pick tool, how is it described on the Status Bar? Is this happening
with only one or a few existing drawings, or even with a brand new drawing
containing only a couple of simple curves?
Jerry
C_Tech Volunteer
Doug Avon
Hi, Jerry;
Thanks for trying to help. I'm not using wireframe mode. Only some of the lines
are misbehaving, and like I mentioned in the first note, they only show up as
super thick lines when I zoom way in. When I select one of tha bad lines, the
status bar message says, Curve on layer 2, Number of nodes 2. The exact same
message occurs for the normal lines in the drawing. I've never had this happen
on older drawings before. Recently I started using an H.P. Laserjet 5L, but I
don't think it's a printer software problem, because I hooked up my old inkjet
and got the same results. I still think it is some default glitch connected with
the "power line" feature, but I can't shake it. Any other ideas?
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Best Regards,
Doug Avon @濃
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Bingen, WA 98605
Jerry Sanderson [C_Tech]
>I still think it is some default glitch connected with
>the "power line" feature, but I can't shake it.
That's why I asked what the Status Bar calls 'em. According to that, Draw
thinks they're ordinary curves, nothing to do with Powerlines.
For the record, I ought to ask what version of Windows you're running, and
what version of Draw 5 as shown in Help/About. The latest is 5.0.G1.
You didn't say whether these are old files, newly-created ones, or both. Has
the problem always existed, or just started recently? Have you changed any
video driver settings? In Draw 5 and earlier, that was pretty closely involved
with printing.
Do you have a small file you could email to me so I can see if it happens
here?
Jerry
C_Tech Volunteer
Jerry Sanderson [C_Tech]
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>The new line looked fine, but right next to it,
>down and to the left a little nudge was a short little fat line, not quite as
>thick as the original bad one.
Yep, I see it. Its definition is corrupted, because if you select it and then
open the Outline Pen dialog, you'll see that the calligraphic stretch factor
is zero, which is an illegal value. As an aside, opening the file in Draw 9
gives it a stretch factor of 1--version 9 simply won't accept the illegal
value, and assigns the closest legal value to it. Still won't print the way
the other lines do, of course.
As for how it got that way... Was this drawing completely created from scratch
in Draw 5, or are parts of it imported or pasted from another format?
While Draw's import filters and clipboard routines are very good, there are a
few holes that allow the creation of illegal objects from time to time. Adobe
Illustrator files are a good one for that. You wind up with a drawing that
_looks_ ok, but can behave very strangely in some respects.
If it was created from scratch in Draw, about all I can think of is that at
some point you may have been running low on system resources, or had other
software running that interfered with Draw's routines and momentarily
scrambled its brains, causing it to record incomplete/incorrect object data.
The only way to fix those objects is to delete them and recreate them.
Jerry
C_Tech Volunteer
Doug Avon
> Doug -
> .....The only way to fix those objects is to delete them and recreate them.
Jerry;
I created the whole thing from scratch. Actually, I imported a bitmap scanned
image, locked it onto layer 1, then used layer 2 to trace (by hand with the
drawing tool) over parts of the image that I wanted to keep. I've done this many
times before with no problems, of course.
After reading your last response, I think another possibility could be the
screen-saver program called "IdleWild 2.0 (a 1991 copywrite)" that happens to be
running on my system. The other day, my little niece was playing games on the
computer, and she accidentally started this screen saver, which by-the-way, I
cannot figure out how to shut off. I've tried everything I can think of, but it
keeps loading up everytime the computer boots up. So I left it on, thinking "What
harm could it possibly cause?" Hmmmm. Maybe that's the culprit. I know this is
getting off the newsgroups' focus, but do you know a simple way to delete this
possible monster?
>
>
> Jerry
> C_Tech Volunteer
Jerry Sanderson [C_Tech]
>I know this is
>getting off the newsgroups' focus, but do you know a simple way to delete this
>possible monster?
Not to worry; we like a challenge. ;)
If there's no uninstall for the critter (I _hate_ when they do that!), you can
simply delete its files--but of course there are probably Registry entries
involved as well, and it can take some digging to [hopefully] get all of them.
If you want to leave it installed, but just not to run automatically, here are
the places to look, courtesy of Brian Johnson:
>Here are the places where a program can be loaded at startup in Win95:
>
>- In CONFIG.SYS and/or AUTOEXEC.BAT and/or WINSTART.BAT files.
>- In WIN.INI, on the load= and run= lines.
>- In the Startup folder.
>- In the registry:
>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
>HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
>HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
>HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
>
>- it can also load VxDs from:
> - SYSTEM.INI, the [386enh] section.
> - the Registry:
> HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\VMM32Files
> HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\services\VxD
Jerry
C_Tech Volunteer
Doug Avon
> Doug -
>
> >I know this is
> >getting off the newsgroups' focus, but do you know a simple way to delete this
> >possible monster?
>
> Not to worry; we like a challenge. ;)
>
> If there's no uninstall for the critter (I _hate_ when they do that!), you can
> simply delete its files--but of course there are probably Registry entries
> involved as well, and it can take some digging to [hopefully] get all of them.
>
> If you want to leave it installed, but just not to run automatically, here are
> the places to look, courtesy of Brian Johnson:
>
> >Here are the places where a program can be loaded at startup in Win95:
> >
> Hi, Jerry;
Well, I looked in all the places I could find, autoexec.bat, config.sys, etc...but
I can't find anything. This Idlewild routine is pretty well hidden, it seems. I'd
like to just go and delete the program file, but like you said, their might be
other program items (which I cannot seem to locate) that also need deleting. You
mention a "register", and I guess I'm illiterate on that subject. I used to work
with Windows 3.0 and 3.1 when it was still pretty simple and DOS-ish. I would just
go delete files and change a couple of lines in the autoexec.bat and config.sys
files and everything would be okay. Now, I don't want you to have to give me a
"how to clean up my Windows 95 lesson", so maybe I better sign off for now and just
wait until I can figure this thing out later. If you have a quick fix tip or two
that you haven't already mentioned, I'm open for further discussion. But maybe I
should just save my pennies and upgrade my Corel Draw.
Doug Avon
> Doug Avon said,
>
> > You mention a "register",
> >
> Thanks for your help, Brian;
I managed to get into the regedit program, but I think I got in too deep. I
found a lot of the files that Jerry mentioned, especially a bunch of VxD
files in: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\VMM32Files, but I better
not delete anything, because these uncharted waters for me. Anyway, I was
looking around in various control panels the other day, and managed to lose
my cool walpaper design. So in reassigning a new one I seem to have
un-automated the idlewild program for now. (Whew!) I'm still not sure how
I'm going to fix my corrupted Corel file, but maybe I won't have this
problem in the future. Thanks for your clear directions. And thanks to
Jerry and all his patience too.
Jerry Sanderson [C_Tech]
>but I better
>not delete anything, because these uncharted waters for me.
Wise man. Though in the end, it might be a good thing if you manage to mess
things up so thoroughly that you have to format the hard drive and reinstall
everything squeaky-clean. <g>
At any rate, good to hear that you got the beast tamed. Hopefully that will
take care of this particular problem. My kids are only allowed to play on my
_wife's_ machine. ;)
Jerry
C_Tech Volunteer