Install Paradox 7 on Windows 2000
Steven W. Erbach
I've attempted to install Paradox 7 on my Windows 2000 SP2 workstation (384
MB RAM, 20GB hard disk, Pentium 667). When I've entered all the installation
options (directories to install to, which options to install, etc.) The
'steering wheel' installation graphic appears but a dialog box pops up
immediately with 'instrun.exe' in the title bar and the following message:
Abnormal program termination.
I had been running both Paradox 8 and Paradox 9 on my system. I thought that
I'd un-install them to see if that made any difference. No dice. Any ideas?
Regards,
Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
Dennis Santoro
or BDE aps and then let the newer ones upgrade the BDE. You may have issues
because of the differences in the way the newer Pdox versions install the BDE.
Not a lot of help but a place to look.
Denn Santoro
President
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Bertil Isberg
If Paradox 7 for Win 3.1, it might be that standard VGA driver is needed.
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read the newsgroup: corel.wpoffice.paradox-faq
for Frequently Asked Questions
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Steven W. Erbach
Thanks for your reply. I am trying to install the Win95/NT version of
Paradox 7. I had it installed under Win98 SE. I bought a new drive and
decided to give Win 2000 a whirl; but I didn't install version 7 right away.
I installed 8 and 9 with no problems.
I un-installed version 8 & 9 yesterday. I also ran Norton WinDoctor to clean
up the registry this morning. I deleted hundreds of references to Corel
products hoping that I could start "clean." No dice. I still get the
INSTRUN.EXE error message. I'm beginning to think that the INSTRUN.EXE file
is bad. But that can't be it, either, because I have both the Corel Office 7
Professional CDs and the standalone Borland Paradox 7 CD. Both installation
routines act similarly; that is, they both allow me to set installation
options, but when the 'steering wheel' graphic appears I get the INSTRUN.EXE
'Abnorml program termination' error.
I still have the Win98 drive in my system and I've looked at the
instructions for manually unpak-ing the PAK files. I see that there's an
installation log in the Paradox 7 directory, too, that lists registry keys
added during installation. I'm not ready to try a manual installation under
Win 2000 but I guess I might go that route if all else fails.
I was able to run the BDECFG32.EXE on that old Win98 drive (E:) and create
an IDAPI.CFG file. I even allowed BDECFG32 to make a registry entry. Then
when I went to try--yet again--to install version 7 I saw that the
installation routine recognized the location of the IDAPI.CFG on drive E:
that I had saved. Of course I still couldn't run the INSTRUN.EXE...
Does this fill in any blanks?
Steven W. Erbach
I appreciate the reply. I've written a few more details in my reply to
Bertil. My system is--I think--now scrubbed clean of all references to Corel
applications but the INSTRUN.EXE still won't fire.
Anders Jonsson
If I remember correctly there is an issue with installations on HD that are
bigger than 2 GB. One fix is to temporarily fill the HD with data so it is
less that 2GB left :(
Another one could be to run the apcompat.exe and then use the setting
"Correct discspace detection for 2GB+ drivers", but I have no idea if that
will work on the setup.exe.
What I did on my XP system was to make a partition of 1.8 GB to install
Paradox 7 on.
Anders
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Steven W. Erbach
>> If I remember correctly there is an issue with installations on HD that
are
bigger than 2 GB. One fix is to temporarily fill the HD with data so it is
less that 2GB left :( <<
Well, lets see...I still have the wxp_pro_rc2.iso file for the Win XP beta.
I was too spooked to ever install it but I still have it cluttering up my
hard disk. My drive C: has 12.8 GB of free space...but my E: drive has only
2.9 GB left. Maybe I'll make 3 copies of that XP file on drive E: to reduce
the drive size temporarily.
Thanks,
Bertil Isberg
2GB+ disk. I don't even recall if I was aware of the problem and filled
the disk with garbage in advance.
--
Bertil Isberg
CTECH
Steven W. Erbach
Well, at least I saw something amusing in Windows 2000 that I've never seen
before. I still can't install Paradox 7/32, though.
First I tried filling up my E: drive so that there would be less than 2GB
free. I got the same instrun.exe error that I got before.
Then I bit the bullet and made multiple copies of the Windows XP
wxp_pro_rc2.iso beta distribution file (499,688 KB each). When I had 10
copies of the file on my C: drive I made sure that they all had different
names. Then I selected them and pressed Ctrl-C and then Ctrl-V in the same
directory and away the copy process went. As I was waiting I noticed that
the Copying... dialog box began to give very odd numbers for the time
estimate. I saw the number of minutes remaining go all the way up to about
650,000 minutes! Copying 10 half-gigabyte files only took maybe 25 minutes,
though. Amusing.
I even ran Norton WinDoctor again on my registry to make sure there were no
vestiges of Corel or Borland stuff left. Tried the install of the
stand-alone Paradox 7/32 CD and...no go. Same error as before regarding the
instrun.exe file.
I could, I suppose, run through the process of installing the PAK files one
at a time in their proper directories and then manually adding the registry
entries listed in the install log in the old Paradox folder. Any odds on how
well that would work before I begin?
Regards,
Dennis Santoro
the UI Pak and trying to run from one of them?
Denn Santoro
President
Resource Development Associates
http://www.RDAWorldWide.Com
375 High Street
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Steven W. Erbach
I appreciate you hanging in there with me on this one.
>> How about going straight to the setup.exe instead? <<
If you mean using Windows Run to launch SETUP.EXE, then that's what I've
done all along. The Setup starts with giving me a place to enter my name and
company name and then goes on to the three choices for type of installation,
etc.
>> Or unpacking the Silent or the UI Pak and trying to run from one of them?
<<
I've un-pakked UI.EXE. It simply goes immediately to the entry of name and
company name. The problem comes in when I've made all the installation
choices and give the go ahead to install. The steering wheel and road
scenery appear. That's when the error message about INSTRUN.EXE appears;
that is, 'Abnormal program termination,' and the installation terminates and
returns to Windows 2000.
I assume that INSTRUN.EXE just unpacks the compressed files in some order
and into the given folders...then creates the registry entries...
Is it really progress when it's impossible to install a software application
without the help of a software "expert?" Because what happens when the
"expert" can't do it?
Anders Jonsson
First, I didn't follow your math on the file copy thing, but the numbers in
the dialog box is not always correct.
Second, what to do you mean by "Tried the install of the standalone Paradox
7/32 CD"?
Have you tried several CD's or are you running the install from HD or
network?
Maybe the CD is damaged?
I don't think the "manual" install will be easy but it should be possible I
guess?
I know it is of no comfort to you, but I have installed P7 many, many times
over the years and always managed to get it going on all kinds of OS and I
don't think there have been any install problems reported here either.
Wait, while I am writing this I remember having some problem to install P7
on a Win2000 server set up to function primarily as a Terminal Server, but
you are on Win2000 Pro?
Anders
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Steven W. Erbach
As I said to Dennis, I am very grateful that you stay with me on this one.
>> First, I didn't follow your math on the file copy thing, but the numbers
in
the dialog box is not always correct <<
As I said, it was more amusing than anything. I had a 500 MB file that I
copied multiple times (copying one or two files at a time) to get to 5 GB
worth of file space. I selected all 10 500 MB files at once and then copied
them into the same directory. Windows, of course, renames the copies so that
all the file names are unique. But while copying the 'minutes remaining'
message went into the stratosphere. That's what I thought was funny. Sure,
I've seen the time remaining balloon before, but over 600,000 minutes? I
guess that Windows just had a hard time squeezing that much file space (5
GB) into what was remaining (about 6.9 GB).
>> Second, what to do you mean by "Tried the install of the standalone
Paradox
7/32 CD"? <<
I have both the Corel Office 7 Professional CD set as well as a stand-alone
copy of Borland Paradox 7 for Win95 and NT. The installation procedures for
both are identical. I just happened to use the Borland CD to eliminate the
Corel installation menu on the Corel CDs.
I did try copying the files from the Borland CD to my hard disk and running
Setup from there--only 56 MB of files for Paradox 7.
>> Maybe the CD is damaged? <<
If so then both the Corel Office 7 Professional CD and the Borland CD are
damaged. They both terminate at the same point; i.e., when I've made all the
installation choices for Paradox (destination directories, program elements
to install, name, BDE destination, etc.) and I've given the go ahead to
install. The steering wheel and highway graphic appears followed immediately
by the little dialog box titled "instrun.exe" with the message "Abnormal
program termination." I click 'OK' and the dialog box and the graphic
disappear and I'm back at Windows.
I did notice, FWIW, that if I did that process a few times in a row that
SETUP.EXE would show up a couple, three times in the Win 2000 Task List. Of
course I've restarted numerous times, too.
>> I have installed P7 many, many times over the years and always managed to
get it going on all kinds of OS and I don't think there have been any
install problems reported here either. <<
That's what gets me: I've done the same: Win 95, Win 98 SE, & NT 4. No
problems. Now I get to Win 2000 and I'm stymied. As I said I cleaned out the
registry as best I could using Norton WinDoctor to eliminate all Corel and
Borland applications on the system. I think I've been a good boy but my
prayers aren't being answered.
One more thing to try: I'm going to disable Norton Antivirus and see if that
works. I'll report back.
Steven W. Erbach
All right. I disabled Norton AntiVirus, ZoneAlarm, and RegRun II while I
tried the installation again. I used both the Borland CD and the Corel CD.
Same message as before.
I went to the folder on C: where I had copied the Borland Paradox 7 CD and
unpacked the INSTXTRA.PAK and renamed the INSTRUN.EX_ to INSTRUN.EXE. I ran
the INSTRUN.EXE just for the heck of it. It opened a DOS window for a second
and then closed with a message (which I managed to read after running it
about 8 times): "Program too big to fit in memory."
Does that lead me anywhere? I figured that INSTRUN.EXE would just unpack all
the files, copy them to their rightful places, and make registry entries. Is
it a 16-bit program that can't run under Win 2000? That seems funny since
I've run Paradox 7 install on NT systems without a hitch.
Is this a clue?
Anders Jonsson
I am running out of ideas, it seem like you have tried everything and a
little bit more.
As I said in earlier post I recall having some problem installing P7 on a
Windows 2000 Server which was set up to act as as a Terminal Server, I don't
think I solved that problem as it was no longer needed. But I assume you are
using Windows 2000 Professional?
Anders
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Bertil Isberg
Having read through this thread, I still wonder if you have tried to change
the video driver.
Dennis Santoro
I'm out of ideas too. I can tell you that I used the Borland CD with NO corel
aps installed when starting with my clean W2K (sp1) and the install went
flawlessly. I then installed 9 (sp4) and 10 (both with full attendant suites)
with no problems. This on a Dell Lattitude with 512MBRam and a 20 Gig HD. Didn't
hit the drive too big problem either. Disk was formatted as NTFS.
Denn Santoro
President
Resource Development Associates
http://www.RDAWorldWide.Com
375 High Street
Rochester, MA 02770
(508) 295-7350
and
Waldweg 5
83512 Reitmehring
Germany
08071 924271
Providing solutions to health care, business, governments and non-profits since
1982
Marcus Hanke
currently I am puzzled by a similar problem: I got a new PC with Win2000
SP2 on it. I installed my trusted Borland Paradox 7 onto the 15GB disk
without any problems. But I cannot start the application, receiving but
an error message, somewhat like "application could not be correctly
initialized" (I am using a German version of P7). Does anybody know what
this means?
Marcus
Steven W. Erbach
Problem solved:
*** WINDOWS 2000 SAFE MODE!!! ***
Bertil's nudging about the video driver reminded me that I had one other
application that wouldn't load properly in Win 2000 proper. The tech support
guys suggested un-installing and re-running install from safe mode. That was
it!
Oy! Thank you all for staying with me and put this solution down in your
database!
Anders Jonsson
Have you applied the patch to P7?
Have you updated the BDE? The one that came with P7 can't work with FAT32
(Your 15 GB driver has either FAT32 or NTFS).
Anders
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Lesson number one, never give up!
Lesson number two, always listen to Bertil!
Anders
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Dennis Santoro
Thanks for letting us know.
Denn Santoro
President
Resource Development Associates
http://www.RDAWorldWide.Com
375 High Street
Rochester, MA 02770
(508) 295-7350
and
Waldweg 5
83512 Reitmehring
Germany
08071 924271
Providing solutions to health care, business, governments and non-profits since
1982
Bertil Isberg
I didn't mention "Safe Mode".:-)
Steven W. Erbach
>> I didn't mention "Safe Mode".:-) <<
Well, I still give you credit for turning me in the right direction. I
remember hearing about video driver issues for a number of Paradox
weirdnesses over the years. Here's one where good old 16-color mode did
wonders.