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Gary W. Shanafelt

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Aug 3, 2004, 2:56:45 PM8/3/04
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I have been working with WP10's PDF utility, and I've discovered a font
which fails to compile properly. With WP, it displays and prints
perfectly. But in a PDF file created from the WP document, several of
the characters overlap each other. It is a varily complex font with a
lot of detail in each character. Is there some sort of limit to how
complex a font can be before the PDF generator chokes on it? I notice I
have to uncheck Change TrueType to Type 1 in the PDF options or the
program is unable to generate any file at all and aborts with an error
message.

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lemoto

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Aug 3, 2004, 3:02:19 PM8/3/04
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Gary:

> I have been working with WP10's PDF utility, and I've discovered a font
> which fails to compile properly.
>
Folk who know about these things will be happy to know which font is
involved.
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Charles Rossiter

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Aug 3, 2004, 3:03:57 PM8/3/04
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Gary,

Perhaps this font does not have the permissions set to be used for PDF
creation. Is this a Corel font? If so, which? -- name and date?

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Gary W. Shanafelt

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Aug 3, 2004, 5:03:59 PM8/3/04
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It's a font of my own creation, done with Macromedia Fontographer. The
embed settings are set for no protection, so there should be no problem
embedding the font. Again, I suspect it is too complex for the PDF
generator to handle. Fontographer used to caution users not to create
fonts with too many characters when PCs had limited memory, and I
suspect this is the problem. If you want to try it out, give me your
email address and I'll send you a copy. It's a font of symbols from
various cultures -- Egyptian, Japanese, Islamic, African, Celtic,
Christian, Buddhist, etc., which I've used to decorate the reading lists
of a cross-cultural class I team teach at my university.

Re~Silient

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Aug 3, 2004, 5:50:34 PM8/3/04
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Can you try with other PDF genberators to see if it's specific to the Corel
PDF engine?

I can try it with
Adobe Acrobat 5 or 6
pdfFactory Pro

freeones you could try
www.pdf995.com
www.primopdf.com


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Gary W. Shanafelt

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Aug 4, 2004, 12:55:17 PM8/4/04
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I found a friend who has Adobe 6 installed on her Win XP machine. I
installed the font, typed in all the characters with her MS Word (she
didn't have WP on the machine) and compiled a PDF. Both the screen view
and the printout were perfect.

I also tried installing PrimoPDF as you suggested on my machine, loaded
the full font alphabet into a WP10 document, and generated a PDF with
PrimoPDF. Again, no problem.

It seems to me there are two explanations, since the font doesn't appear
to be the problem (except for the relative complexity of the character
images). First, since WP10 generates PDFs in Acrobat 4 (or 3) format,
I'm thinking there could be changes in the PDF specifications which
support more complex fonts in version 6 than were allowed in ver. 4.
That means WP needs to generate PDFs conforming to the updated specs.
Does WP12 still create PDFs in Acrobat 4 format, or has it been upgraded
to later formats? The second explanation is that there is simply a bug
in the WP PDF generating code, which I, who seem to have a talent for
finding bugs in WP (a testimony to how much I use it), have just
discovered. If that is the case, please report it to someone!


Re~Silient wrote:

>Can you try with other PDF genberators to see if it's specific to the Corel
>PDF engine?
>
>I can try it with
>Adobe Acrobat 5 or 6
>pdfFactory Pro
>
>freeones you could try
>www.pdf995.com
>www.primopdf.com
>
>
>
>

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Charles Rossiter

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Aug 5, 2004, 1:00:19 PM8/5/04
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Gary,

WPWin12 saves PDFs up to Acrobat 5.

For testing, would you like to send me your sample document (after
zipping!) and your font?

You could e-mail those files to "MySurname at tiscali dot co dot za"
where MySurname etc have the obvious meanings.

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Re~Silient

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Aug 5, 2004, 5:04:23 PM8/5/04
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The CTechs can escalate the issue, if they can duplicate it... right from
here.

I would suggest offering the font in question for download or by email to
help in duplicating the issue.

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Charles Rossiter

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Aug 10, 2004, 10:31:53 AM8/10/04
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This can certainly be duplicated! If you are happy we are now at the
end of the off-group discussions, then I will escalate to Corel.

Re~Silient wrote:
>
> The CTechs can escalate the issue, if they can duplicate it... right from
> here.
>
> I would suggest offering the font in question for download or by email to
> help in duplicating the issue.
>

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Charles Rossiter

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Aug 10, 2004, 3:06:23 PM8/10/04
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Sorry that should have been addressed to Gary Shanafelt.

Gary W. Shanafelt

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Aug 11, 2004, 4:01:46 PM8/11/04
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My apparent sudden interest in PDF files was because I needed to create a number of PDF documents to be accessed from a webpage I oversee.  Obviously, the PDF file needs to be true to the original document.  Anyhow, aside from font issues, I've discovered that any PDF file created with WP10, when accessed from Internet Explorer 6.0.2800 with Adobe Acrobat Reader 5, is unreadable!  I get an error message, "Error reading linearized hint data."

If you read the PDF file from Mozilla, it displays fine.  If you load it directly into Acrobat Reader 5 without any intervening browser, it reads fine.  If you read it from Internet Explorer with Acrobat Reader 6, it reads fine.  It only screws up with the combination of IE and Acrobat Reader 5.  And it only does it with WP10-generated PDF files; those created with Adobe or PrimePDF display fine.

This is the sort of problem that will solve itself as people switch over from Acrobat Reader 5 to 6, but in the meantime I can't create any PDF files with the WP10 generator not knowing which visitors to the webpage will be browsing with IE and still have Acrobat 5 installed on their computers.

Can anyone test this with WP12 (assuming they still have Acrobat Reader 5 on their machines)?

Re~Silient

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Aug 11, 2004, 5:50:36 PM8/11/04
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"Error reading linearized hint data."

Simply Publish to PDF and make sure you disable Optimize for Web.

We had a good talk about this at WPUniverse a while ago...
http://www.wpuniverse.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12931

"Explains the Optimize for Web and Explains the Optimize for Web. These tips
address problems that visitors might encounter when they try to view PDF
files on your Web site."

http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/29772.htm


I like the part where...
"Use Server Software that Supports Page-at-a-Time Downloading
To determine if the server software supports page-at-a-time downloading, do
the following..."

Since Optimize for Web = Page-at-a-Time.... maybe we've been looking at this
issue from the wrong web side.


Good reference
http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/29776.htm

Essentially (from what we found) the feature is available but if your web
server doesn't support 'Page-at-a-time' serving for PDFs... then you get the
error. It's easier to disable in the Publishing of the PDF than getting all
your visitors to disable it in their Acrobat Reader preferences...

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Gary W. Shanafelt

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Aug 13, 2004, 12:29:06 PM8/13/04
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By jove, I tried it and it works! Thanks!!

Re~Silient wrote:

>"Error reading linearized hint data."
>
>Simply Publish to PDF and make sure you disable Optimize for Web.
>
>We had a good talk about this at WPUniverse a while ago...
>http://www.wpuniverse.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12931
>
>"Explains the Optimize for Web and Explains the Optimize for Web. These tips
>address problems that visitors might encounter when they try to view PDF
>files on your Web site."
>
>http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/29772.htm
>
>
>I like the part where...
>"Use Server Software that Supports Page-at-a-Time Downloading
>To determine if the server software supports page-at-a-time downloading, do
>the following..."
>
>Since Optimize for Web = Page-at-a-Time.... maybe we've been looking at this
>issue from the wrong web side.
>
>
>Good reference
>http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/29776.htm
>
>Essentially (from what we found) the feature is available but if your web
>server doesn't support 'Page-at-a-time' serving for PDFs... then you get the
>error. It's easier to disable in the Publishing of the PDF than getting all
>your visitors to disable it in their Acrobat Reader preferences...
>
>
>

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Re~Silient

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Aug 13, 2004, 5:44:40 PM8/13/04
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Glad to hear.

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