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Mike Jackson

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Sep 29, 2004, 7:07:08 AM9/29/04
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I am using the EQN equation language to insert fractions like 5/16 into
text.

A fraction was about half a mm too low, so I applied text attributes to
shift it up. Next time I opened the document, the fraction had moved up,
so I removed the attributes and it dropped down into the correct
position on the baseline.

In the same document, I have a fraction on one line and another on the
line below. One was too low, so I Edited the equation and applied
Defaults to the spacing. The screen refreshed, and the equation that was
too low (and to which I had just applied the Defaults) was now correct,
but the fraction on the line above was now too low! When I applied
default spacing to that one, the one below moved down!

Anyone know what is going on?

I'm using Ventura 8.559/Win 98 and I got out of bed on the right-hand
side this morning.

Mike
www.mjpublications.com


Mike Jackson

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Sep 29, 2004, 7:05:20 AM9/29/04
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I'm using Ventura 8.559/Win 98 and I got out of bed on the right side
this morning.

Mike
www.mjpublications.com

Ken Benson

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Sep 29, 2004, 8:39:31 AM9/29/04
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Hi Mike

Do you have your base frame set for First Baseline: Interline, and do you
have the tag on the paragraph into which you're placing fractions set with
Grow Interline Space to Fit turned off? Last, do you have vertical
justification turned off? One of these three might be affecting it. I would
avoid shifting text containing equations (or making any other
character-level formatting around equations).

FWIW, I stopped using the Equation builder to make case fractions after
Ventura 7. Instead, I bought a few fraction fonts, and life has been better.
The fractions look better too. Equations within blocks of text were causing
justification and other problems that I had not seen in previous versions.
Now I only use the equation builder to make complex equations that reside,
alone, in their own paragraphs, with Grow Interline turned on.

Ken Benson

Gabor Deak Jahn

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Sep 29, 2004, 9:42:44 AM9/29/04
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:05:20 +0100, Mike Jackson
<mi...@mjpublications.com> wrote:

Mike,

although this shouldn't happen, you could have even nicer fractions
with an expert font. Those should have all the upper and lower index
digits plus a nice fraction slash.

Bye,
Gabor

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Ken Benson

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Sep 29, 2004, 5:13:07 PM9/29/04
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**Second Try** (What could be wrong with this?)

Eric Weber

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Sep 29, 2004, 5:25:25 PM9/29/04
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In article <415b1dd1_1@cnews>, Ken Benson <kbe...@pegtypenospam.com>
says...

> **Second Try** (What could be wrong with this?)

Ken --

FWIW, I saw your first post this morning (and have it on my machine).


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Mike Jackson

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Sep 29, 2004, 6:48:57 PM9/29/04
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Thanks Ken and Gabor,

I did have vert. just. off, etc. but it made no difference. Looks like I
shall be obtaining some fraction fonts -- any recommendations? I once
made some fractions for a particular book (by modifying a font in Corel
Draw 7) but having a fraction font sounds like a little less trouble!

Mike

Gabor Deak Jahn

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Sep 30, 2004, 8:42:42 AM9/30/04
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:48:57 +0100, Mike Jackson
<mi...@mjpublications.com> wrote:

Mike,

> Looks like I shall be obtaining some fraction fonts -- any recommendations?

The so-called Expert variant of your font (which is that?) would
suffice.

Ken Benson

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Sep 30, 2004, 11:39:55 AM9/30/04
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> I did have vert. just. off, etc. but it made no difference. Looks like I
> shall be obtaining some fraction fonts -- any recommendations? I once
> made some fractions for a particular book (by modifying a font in Corel
> Draw 7) but having a fraction font sounds like a little less trouble!


I keep Helvetica Fraction and New Century Schoolbook Fraction loaded, both
Adobe fonts. These are good enough for most jobs, although it would be nicer
to have one for each book font. Takes a little getting used to, especially
if you have a lot of fractions: The numerator is the bottom row on your
keyboard shifted (Z = 1, X = 2, etc.), the denominator is the bottom row not
shifted (z = 1, x = 2, etc.), and the fraction bar is the backslash. There's
a whole bunch of other goodies, like stacked fractions instead of case
fractions.

Ken Benson

Ken Benson

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Sep 30, 2004, 11:45:01 AM9/30/04
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> Ken --
>
> FWIW, I saw your first post this morning (and have it on my machine).


Thanks, Eric. I suppose it's time I figure out a new newsreader, one that
shows me all the posts.

Ken Benson

William Meyer

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Oct 1, 2004, 6:02:16 PM10/1/04
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oN 09/30/04, Ken Benson said:

> Thanks, Eric. I suppose it's time I figure out a new newsreader, one
> that shows me all the posts.

I can recommend XanaNews very highly.
http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/d7xananews.htm

--
Bill
Posted with XanaNews Version 1.16.4.2

Mike Jackson

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Oct 24, 2004, 9:04:36 AM10/24/04
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Thanks for the suggestions, Ken and Gabor, to my query in the thread Equation alignment.

As I only have a few fractions to cope with at present, I found a way to do it without obtaining expert fonts (although I appreciate that that is the proper way to go).

I found that the oblique stroke (ANSI 0164) in the Symbol font, together with a normal superscript and subscript (baseline shift set to 0) gives an acceptable fraction. The default kerning seems to work fine.

Mike
www.mjpublications.com
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