Outputting to Jaws 2.11
Shantavira
We've changed from outputting to a Postscript printer to outputting to Jaws
PDF Creator. However, as soon as I switch to Jaws PDF Creator (v. 2.11) in
the Print dialogue, Ventura (v. 8.559) substitutes all the device (i.e.
printer) fonts in my publication, e.g. everything in Palatino becomes Times.
I workaround this by outputting a PS file to disk, then dragging it into
Jaws, but is there some way I can persuade Ventura that Jaws has the base
fonts so that I can "print" directly to PDF?
A second question: Six years ago I was advised on this forum that Postscript
fonts were much better than Truetype (for outputting to a PS printer). Now
that we output everything to PDFs, would this still apply?
Shantavira
Allison Moore
> Jaws, but is there some way I can persuade Ventura that Jaws has the base
> fonts so that I can "print" directly to PDF?
I no longer have access to v2.11, but I don't recall the two Font tabs
being materially different from the v3.4 I'm using.
On the Settings tab, click the Font Management button in the lower left
quadrant. Select the folder where your fonts are and add them to the
list in the left pane. I normally do that for every font I have in the
system, active and inactive, so I don't have nasty surprises down the road.
Next, go to the Font Embedding tab, which is on the same level as the
Settings tab, and make sure the options are set the way you want them.
> A second question: Six years ago I was advised on this forum that Postscript
> fonts were much better than Truetype (for outputting to a PS printer). Now
> that we output everything to PDFs, would this still apply?
As for T1 vs TT, I use both, but primarily TT. I rarely have a problem
with fonts. When I do, it's more than likely a T1 font. For many
regulars around here, the situation is exactly the opposite. YMMV
Allison
Jim Hart
In article <418bd0be$1_1@cnews>,
dumpALLIS...@forgetMETAthisHEALTHpart.COM says...
> As for T1 vs TT, I use both, but primarily TT. I rarely have a problem
> with fonts. When I do, it's more than likely a T1 font. For many
> regulars around here, the situation is exactly the opposite. YMMV
>
A lot depends on the quality of the font. Poorly made fonts--TTF or T1--
can cause problems. For years there seemed to be a lot more low quality
TTF than T1 but with the advent of OpenType, that is changing. T1, OT
and TT fonts from reputable digital foundries should cause no problems,
as long as you don't have two or more fonts with the same name installed
at the same time.
--
Jim Hart
www.microtecniqs.com
Ventura FAQ available at:
http://www.draw.nu/venturafaq/
Ken Benson
"Shantavira" <shant...@windhorsepublications.com> wrote in message
news:418bca5f$1_1@cnews...
>
> We've changed from outputting to a Postscript printer to outputting to
Jaws
> PDF Creator. However, as soon as I switch to Jaws PDF Creator (v. 2.11) in
> the Print dialogue, Ventura (v. 8.559) substitutes all the device (i.e.
> printer) fonts in my publication, e.g. everything in Palatino becomes
Times.
Device fonts reside in the device. Outside of the device (i.e., Jaws, or any
other printer) you're not guaranteed to find them. You're best off avoiding
device fonts entirely. Instead, get the softfont for Palatino (T1 or TT) and
load it. If you don't have Palatino and don't want to buy it, try Book
Antiqua (I think it comes with Windows or MS Office). But I bet you already
have some version of Palatino anyway.
Your workaround (printing to PS and distilling with Jaws) is dangerous,
unless you only print the resulting PDF on your own printer. Since your
Palatino device font is only found in your printer, Jaws cannot embed
Palatino into the PDF. The best Jaws can do is tell your printer to use its
own built-in Palatino. This works fine on your own printer, but when you try
to print this on someone else's printer (like at a service bureau), this is
only going to work perfectly if the other printer has the exact same
Palatino as you do. And they're definitely not all the same.
If you get the softfont for Palatino and load it, then you can tell Jaws to
embed the font in your PDF and you can then print it anywhere and expect to
get exactly the same glyphs.
TT or T1 is not so important, although you should check with your printer.
Some printers don't want TT.
Ken Benson
Gabor Deak Jahn
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:13:14 -0000, "Shantavira"
<shant...@windhorsepublications.com> wrote:
Shantavira,
> Jaws, but is there some way I can persuade Ventura that Jaws has the base
> fonts so that I can "print" directly to PDF?
Why do you use device fonts in the first place? Use genuine fonts on
the computer, they will be downloaded into the PS and Jaws will be
happy to convert them into PDF for you.
> A second question: Six years ago I was advised on this forum that Postscript
> fonts were much better than Truetype (for outputting to a PS printer). Now
> that we output everything to PDFs, would this still apply?
For many years, there wasn't a native True Type editor on the market.
All True Type fonts were created by converting Type 1 fonts and this
process was rather poor. There are some really good quality True Type
fonts available nowadays but if you haven't paid a very hefty sum for
your fonts, they won't be of this quality. Having a (very) reputable
type foundry name on them means nothing in itself.
So, if the quality is questionable or unknown, stick to Type 1 or Open
Type of the PostScript flavor (called .otf).
Bye,
Gabor
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Shantavira
Thank you all for your responses.
Gabor wrote
"Why do you use device fonts in the first place?"
We adopted Palatino as our house font before PDFs were invented. It was a
good quality font bundled with a good quality PS printer and we liked it.
Ken Benson wrote
>
> Device fonts reside in the device. Outside of the device (i.e., Jaws, or
any
> other printer) you're not guaranteed to find them. You're best off
avoiding
> device fonts entirely. Instead, get the softfont for Palatino (T1 or TT)
and
> load it. If you don't have Palatino and don't want to buy it, try Book
> Antiqua (I think it comes with Windows or MS Office). But I bet you
already
> have some version of Palatino anyway.
Some years ago we switched over to the "Zapf Calligraphic 801 (~Palatino)"
which comes bundled with Ventura, rather than spend money on a Palatino soft
font. However, I am preparing our older books for reprints and they all use
Palatino. Zapf Calligraphic has different character widths from Palatino.
The help file in Jaws says "Embed base 14 fonts: If this option is selected
all base 14 fonts in the document are embedded in the output PDF file."
Palatino is one of the base fonts, so I was assuming it's somehow resident
within Jaws. Opening the files in Acrobat, the Palatino look fine on screen,
but I will have to try printing the PDF on another printer and see what
happens.
Shantavira
Gabor Deak Jahn
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:53:03 -0000, "Shantavira"
<shant...@windhorsepublications.com> wrote:
Shantavira,
> The help file in Jaws says "Embed base 14 fonts: If this option is selected
> all base 14 fonts in the document are embedded in the output PDF file."
> Palatino is one of the base fonts, so I was assuming it's somehow resident
> within Jaws.
No, this doesn't mean that. It means that Jaws will look out to
Windows and embed the font that's installed there. Whether you check
this Embed base fonts only determines whether fonts that Jaws knows to
be among the usual 14 fonts will be embedded at all. If you don't
allow this, you create a PDF that counts on the same font to be
present on any machine that will be used to open that PDF. Not a good
policy.
If you don't like the font that came with Ventura, why not use
Palatino Linotype, bundled with XP? It's a font of quite good quality.
But whatever source you get it from, you really should use a font
installed on your computer, not a printer font.
Ken Benson
> The help file in Jaws says "Embed base 14 fonts: If this option is
selected
> all base 14 fonts in the document are embedded in the output PDF file."
> Palatino is one of the base fonts, so I was assuming it's somehow resident
> within Jaws. Opening the files in Acrobat, the Palatino look fine on
screen,
Either you have the softfont or you don't. If you don't have the font, Jaws
can't embed it. If you do have the font, Jaws can embed it, even if it's not
loaded. So it's possible that even though you don't have Palatino loaded you
do have the font on your system somewhere and Jaws knows where it is and is
embedding it and your PDFs are truly portable.
But your original problem was that when you switch printers you lose
Palatino. This is because you don't have Palatino loaded.
The obvious solution is to load Palatino. If you don't already have it
(check before you say you don't--I have hundreds of fonts on my system I
never asked for), then you should buy it or substitute something close. If
this means a little reflow, bite the bullet and let it reflow. If you're
using device fonts, you're only safe using your own device.
Ken Benson
Shantavira
OK I get the message, and I'll make sure in future that I have all the fonts
I'm using. I'm sure I don't have the softfont in either T1 or TT. So now I'm
puzzled as to why the PDFs I have created via the PS file look and print
just fine even on other people's machines that definitely have no Palatino
available and no Postscript printer. It seems that Acrobat Reader does come
with some base fonts (in programs/ adobe/ acrobat/ resource/ fonts/) but
Palatino is not one of them. There must at least be a screen font somewhere
that Ventura uses for the display. I opened the PS file and there is a line
that reads
[] CorelDrawReencodeVect /R-3854-Palatino-Roman
Ken Benson
> OK I get the message, and I'll make sure in future that I have all the
fonts
> I'm using. I'm sure I don't have the softfont in either T1 or TT.
If you want to make me a small PS file (one page, just a few words, with one
of them formatted in Palatino) and send it to me, I'll tell you for sure
whether or not you have Palatino. Just because you didn't load it and can't
find it doesn't mean you don't have it.
Ken Benson
Ken Benson
Oops, I should have asked for PS and PDF distilled from that PS.
Ken Benson