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Stu

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Mar 17, 2001, 8:28:27 AM3/17/01
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To all those who havn't taken a look at the Corel beta programs web page, or
as yet have no idea where it actually is... take a trip over to...

http://www.corel.com/betaprogram

Corel are currently looking for testers for Corel Painter 7. So, if you're
into testing pre-release programs and you know Painter inside out, you're
the people Corel are looking for.

Stu


Chip

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Mar 19, 2001, 9:29:09 AM3/19/01
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Oh my!

I too feel a bit aggrieved about this - I'm more than happy to stick with my
*ancient* Win95 O/S, thanks very much!

However, I had, anyway, pretty much decided that I wouldn't be upgrading
further from Painter 6 (not even to 6.1, actually!) I really can't think of
enough vital improvements that could be made to this brilliant programme to
warrant the risk of trouble similar to all that I was caused by the last
upgrade from 5 to 6 (before the 6.03 patch) And Corel's track record with
the 6.1 patch fiasco isn't exactly reassuring, is it?!

Like you say, what could be *so* important that Win95 couldn't handle it?

Perhaps I'm just a quaint, old-fashioned girl. But that's it for me - I'll
stay very loyal to my much-loved Painter in it's present incarnation, but no
further....

Christine

Papa wrote in message <3AB75B6F...@home.com>...
>I just checked the Beta Announcement... and am NOT a happy camper
>
>"Please note, Painter 7 will not be supported on Windows® 95"
>
>would somebody at Corel like to tell my why ?
>
>Which 'Features' of Win98/NT/2000 are so Important to PAINTER that the
>Programming Team
>and Corel would Force thier Users to Upgrade a Microsoft Product ?
>
>PG

Jerry Sanderson [C_Tech]

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Mar 19, 2001, 11:22:56 PM3/19/01
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>Which 'Features' of Win98/NT/2000 are so Important to PAINTER that the
>Programming Team
>and Corel would Force thier Users to Upgrade a Microsoft Product ?

I'm not at Corel, but I can tell you why. Too many operating systems.

Getting a complex application to work properly with thousands of different
machine configurations running under just _one_ OS is very difficult.
Presumably Painter will be supported under Win ME also; that makes four. The
programming environment is going to be a current OS; probably Win2K--and done
with current programming tools, which do not provide extensive support for a
legacy OS (note that Microsoft doesn't support Win 95 any more). And
after-the-sale tech support is already a nightmare these days, with all those
configurations under all those OS's.

Given that (I assume) the majority of sales would be to those who use a later
OS than Win 95, it's a simple dollars-and-cents decision. I wasn't thrilled
when they made that decision about Draw 10, but it spurred me to move to Win
98 and shortly thereafter to Win 2K. Best thing that ever happened here. I
can't even begin to enumerate the ways in which Win 2K is better. :)

Jerry
C_Tech Volunteer

Cricket

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Mar 21, 2001, 4:41:56 PM3/21/01
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It's not the same thing: running an old program and writing new code to
support the old OS. All the libraries have changed, as well as the tools to
program with. In many cases the programmers would have to write routines
twice and in other cases there is no equivalent in Win95 for doing something
so what do they do, leave the feature out? Video has changed quite a bit as
well.

Cricket
C_Tech Volunteer

"Papa" <papa...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Jerry,
>
> Programs that run under Win95 are SUPPOSED to run under Win98/ME without
Change.
> and Microsoft Wishes they'd all run under NT/2000 too
>
> So if Corel is ABLE to Improve Painter without uwing any of the New
WizBang
> NonBackward Compatible Features
> of the Newer Releases and something Brakes, they can and should BLAME
MIRCOSOFT
>
> We've all been PAINTED into a corner here... pun intended
>
> DD

ghi stecyk

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Mar 21, 2001, 5:53:00 PM3/21/01
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this is the reality of the macintosh platform. mac users have always had to keep
up and major changes are in the making again with osX. new operating systems
improve system performance. the speed advantage that macs have had over pentiums
is mostly in the os. enough to make a 400mhz g3 the same speed as a 600mhz p3
under 95/98. be thankful that the products are improving!

ghi stecyk

Papa wrote:

> I just checked the Beta Announcement... and am NOT a happy camper
>
> "Please note, Painter 7 will not be supported on Windows® 95"
>
> would somebody at Corel like to tell my why ?
>

> Which 'Features' of Win98/NT/2000 are so Important to PAINTER that the
> Programming Team
> and Corel would Force thier Users to Upgrade a Microsoft Product ?
>

> PG

Stu

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Mar 24, 2001, 12:30:39 AM3/24/01
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I'd have to say that they're probably not doing this to be nasty, but as a
help to you. With so many different Microsoft operating systems around now,
it becomes difficult to program to suit all of them, and that means a slower
and more unstable program (if you want that, raise your hand).

Think about it, Windows 95 is 6 years old now. That's ages in computer time.
The differences in Windows 98 and 95 might not look like much, but
programming for them (and especially programming for Windows 2000) can be
quite different. In any case, CorelDRAW 10 doesn't support Windows 95, so
this is nothing new.

Stu

"Papa" <papa...@home.com> wrote in message

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> I just checked the Beta Announcement... and am NOT a happy camper
>
> "Please note, Painter 7 will not be supported on Windows® 95"
>
> would somebody at Corel like to tell my why ?
>
> Which 'Features' of Win98/NT/2000 are so Important to PAINTER that the
> Programming Team
> and Corel would Force thier Users to Upgrade a Microsoft Product ?
>
> PG
>
> Stu wrote:
>

Chip

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Mar 24, 2001, 1:51:00 PM3/24/01
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Yes, I quite see what you mean.

But I'm just happier to stick with my current O/S (& all my programmes that
run on it perfectly well) rather than upgrade *everything" unnecessarily
(for me personally)!

I guess I've at last reached saturation point - I'd much rather spend time
on *using* & *having fun* my "arty" programmes (now they work!) rather than
installing & setting up new versions, with all the associated bugs, updates
& hassle *that* always seems to entail!!!!

Purely personal choice - I understand perfectly why Corel can't continually
support such *ancient* Operating Systems! Guess I've turned into an
old-fashioned English Rose!!!

Christine

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