new (old?) digital watercolour
Bernd Ertl
Hi all,
trying the "new" digital watercolour something occured to me:
when you colour a line drawing and you set diffusion to anything higher than
0 the applied colour will actually interact with the line drawing and
dissolve it (!).
Now, realism is a great thing but the reason to use a computer is to make
life easier and not more complicated (alas, it is often the other way
round).
And as someone else already pointed out: the colour picker has decreased in
size!
Even with the old one it was sometimes hard to get the right tone, but now
it is literally a matter of fractions of millimeters to hit it right.
However, a brush called "coarse dry brush" seems to work really well with
the new digital watercolour.
Anyway, my main concern is stability and if 8 will only remotely be more
stable than any previous release it will be worth the money.
Bernd
Tom Tilney
Bernd,
Have you tried painting on a "New" layer? Make sure preserve
transparency is not checked. Better yet, make the canvas you sketched on
the layer and paint on the new canvas. Adjust the transparency of the
sketch layer so you can see through it to the canvas.
Tom
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Bernd Ertl
Hi Tom,
thanks, I am familiar with this technique.
I use it sometimes in Painter 6.1 when the watercolour doesnt work (I
multiply the drawing though).
However, the beauty of 6' s watercolour was the fact that the colour did not
interact with the underlying drawing and you could get started colouring
immediately after opening the scanned drawing.
Bernd
Jinny Brown
Why on earth, with the availability of Layers, would you be coloring
your line work on the same level?
What I mean is, most artists coloring line art either lift the line work
to a Layer and set the Composite Method to Gel or Multiply, then paint
on a Layer (or Layers) to color the art, or leave the line work on the
Canvas and paint to color it on a Layer (the latter method seems seldom
to be used).
In other words, separating the line work from the coloring prevents
damaging the line work in any way.
Jinny Brown
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Bernd Ertl
well I do it for a very simple reason in 6.1.
It's comfortable.
I get a job, deadline 3 days off, drawing and colouring 36 storyboard
frames.
Now if I had to copy every line drawing every time to a new layer, 36 times,
and set to multiply, 36 times, it sounds reasonable if Painter handles it
just like a "virtual" not accesible layer (as it does in Painter 8 again,
except for the diffusion).
Don't you agree?
Bernd
Jinny Brown
I read one of your later messages and saw that you have tried working on
a New Layer but that you still found the linework affected by paint on
the Layer. That should not happen unless you have the Pick Up
Underlying Colors box checked in the Layers section.
Since Painter 8 obviously doesn't work like Painter 6 (nor does Painter
7 work like Painter 6), I'd think the best thing to do would be to work
using Layers. Otherwise, your line work will be affected.
Another thought, still using Layers, but only one instead of many:
Create a duplicate of your line work and after adding color and cleaning
everything up, paste that duplicate onto the image as a New Layer,
change the Composite Method to Gel or Multiply, and you have clean line
work over color again.
That's a single set of steps to accomplish having clean line work and
would at least save you some repetitive actions, I'd think.
Bernd Ertl
Hi Jinny,
Thanks for your reply.
I use the method you describe already, because sometimes the watercolour of
6.1 would not allow for a smooth transition between colours (smooth gradient
skies f.e.), so I copy the linedrawing onto another layer, multiply it and
after doing the colour paste it.
However, 6.1 was so simple! = )
But, from reading lots of comments over the last few days plus my own
experience with 8 it seems that version 8 is a very good programme.
Personally, I think that version 6.1 was pretty perfect already, 7.1 was for
me a disappointment, but 8 looks pretty good.
Now, if it also proves to be more stable....it's perfect.
How come though that pre-built brush files appear to build up more rapidly
and also tend to be way bigger than in 7.1 or 6.1?
Bernd
Jinny Brown
I can't talk about Painter 8, but in Painter 7 the Pre-built Brush File
grows larger with some brush variants than with others. I'd expect it to
be the same in Painter 8. More complex brushes seem, in Painter 7, to be
the ones that make the file grow larger and faster. Impasto variants do
this, for instance.
If you take note of which brushes you've been using before closing
Painter, then check the Pre-Built Brush File size, I think you'll soon
know when to expect it to grow large quickly.
Jinny Brown
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Bernd Ertl wrote:
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> How come though that pre-built brush files appear to build up more rapidly
> and also tend to be way bigger than in 7.1 or 6.1?
> Bernd
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