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Scribe

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Mar 20, 2001, 2:35:52 PM3/20/01
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I am just learning to use Painter (version 6.1) and I have a question
about doing a clone painting. I opened a jpeg file and followed all of
the following steps (to the letter):
1. Open the Source image.
2. In the File menu, choose Clone.
3. With the Clone image active, in the Select menu, choose All (or
Ctrl/Command-A).
4. In the Edit menu, choose Clear (or Ctrl/Command-X) to delete
everything and leave the Canvas blank.
5. In the File menu, choose Clone Source and make sure the Source image
file name is checked.
6. With the Clone image active, click the Tracing Paper icon located
just above the Grid icon in the upper right corner of the image window
(or use Ctrl/Command-T) to toggle Tracing Paper on and off. This will
give you a faint view of the Source image.
7. Use any of the Cloners brush variants and begin painting, or use any
other brush but in the Brush Controls palette, Cloning section, check
the Clone Color box.

I tried selecting the watercolor cloning brush. I then tried brushing on
the blank canvas (I also tried it with the tracing paper turned on) but
I get nothing. I tried varying the opacity, brush size..... again,
nothing. I get the feeling that I am missing a step that was left out of
the instructions. The manual has essentially all of the same steps, but
I still get nothing.

Can someone please tell me what I might be doing wrong? Or am I perhaps
expecting something to happen before it is supposed to happen? Any help
would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Peter (Scribe)


Diane Walters

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Mar 20, 2001, 4:38:46 PM3/20/01
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This happened to me last night also. I go into a wild frenzy and just
start clicking ANYTHING. If you take the tool that looks like a hand,
you can double click on your object and maybe that will work.

Okay, how'd I do, guys?

Grins,
Diane

Cricket

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Mar 20, 2001, 5:30:03 PM3/20/01
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Some of the brush variants for the Watercolor brushes need pixels already
there (not just the clone source) to move them around. The blending ones.
Switch to another variant and see what happens. Note, as you switch
variants, keep checking the Brush Controls because settings will change in
there depending on the variant chosen.

Cricket
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Jinny Brown

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Mar 21, 2001, 10:47:56 PM3/21/01
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I posted these two responses in the Painter101 group today. One includes
a response to a second question/topic you asked about:

Peter,

That tutorial looks very familiar <G> (mine). I can
think of a few
things that might be happening:

1. In the Edit menu, choose Preferences, then choose
Brush Tracking
and paint a stroke using your normal pressure. That
should reset your
pressure and possibly fix the problem.

2. In the Brushes palette, Variant menu, choose Restore
Default
Variant. That will bring the Cloners/Water Color Cloner
back to its
default state and it should work again.

3. If you're by some chance painting on a Layer, the
Watercolor
brushes won't work. Hopefully sometime soon Painter
will be changed to
allow painting with Water Color brushes on Layers, but
for now.. it
doesn't.

If none of the above work, choose the (normal) Water
Color brush and
in the Art Materials palette Colors section, check
Clone Colors, then
try painting with any of the Water Color Variants.

Let us know how it goes.

Jinny Brown
http://www.pixelalley.com
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Peter,

You should be able to use the Cloners brushes
**and/or** use other
brushes with Clone Color checked in the Art Materials
palette Colors
section.

It's good that you want to know how to do it using the
Cloners brushes
and figure out what's going wrong because whatever it
is will probably
pop up later on and interfere with your work.

Some good sources for using brushes and learning more
about Painter in
general:

Karen Sperling's Artistry Online CDs.. full of
wonderful tutorials.
The Artistry Deluxe CD that I have also comes with
extra Brush Looks,
Brushes, Nozzles, Papers, and Patterns. The price is
very reasonable,
too.

http://www.artistrymag.com

The new Painter Forum at In Depth Discussions hosted by
two very
talented working artists, Cris Palomino and Don
Seegmiller. In
addition, In Depth has a Challenge forum and a number
of other forums
where you can learn a lot and enjoy a great community
of talented,
experienced, and generous artists. Both Cris and Don
have shared some
of their brushes and the rest of us have been playing
with new ones
too.. and sharing the "recipes". The URL is on the
first page of my
Tutorials section at (about halfway down the page):

http://www.pixelalley.com/tutorials/tuthome.html


The Painter 6 WOW! Book by Cher Threinen-Pendarvis,
Peachpit Press.

Bottom line is.. the best way to learn about brushes is
to experiment
and play with them. Also, find an existing brush type
and variant that
you like and take notes about all of the settings.
Places to look are:
Brushes palette, Brush Controls palette all sections,
Controls:Brushes
palette, Art Materials palette Colors section and Color
Variability
section. Then take another variant from that same brush
type and
compare the settings with the first variant to learn
what the
differences are and what settings make that difference.

It takes a lot of experimentation and playing with
brushes to begin to
get a feeling about what does what but along the way
you'll find your
own new brush variants and can save them if you want
to. It's a lot of
fun, so give yourself time with it.

Jinny Brown
http://www.pixelalley.com
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