newbie Q - wet into wet effect ?
frankg
effect ? Is Painter the one - although I dont need the depth of all it's
other features - I don't know of another smaller app that can do this
wet-into- wet style ? I then want to be able to export the file to Photoshop
(which I do have) and use the effect on/with photo files. Any advice, tips
appreciated.
thanks
Frank
Jinny Brown
I can't talk about wet on wet painting because I don't know much about
it (others do) but anything that's Painter specific won't carry over to
Photoshop, I'd think. Do you mean that you want to take a flattened
non-Painter-RIFF file into Photoshop (TIFF, for instance)?
Jinny Brown
http://www.pixelalley.com
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frankg
I want to create wet brush on wet paper images for backgrounds,
borders/edges etc. and then use them in Photoshop as a separate Layer to a
Photoshop file. So I guess Tif to Tif is ok, most formats are probably ok ?
"Jinny Brown" <jinb...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Jinny Brown
Painter Water Color brushes paint on an invisible Wet Layer. Other
brushes can also be used with the Wet setting. Any Painter brush variant
with "Grain or Grainy" in the name picks up Paper texture with a brush
stroke and the Water Color brushes do this. Painter comes with a lot of
default paper textures and you can make your own from any image,
painting, photo, pattern.
A couple of ways (among many) that you can create an interesting frame:
Either paint a border or paint, then edit the Mask to get a soft edge on
your frame. Since you can create endless numbers of brush variants, and
use them to paint on the image or edit the Mask, it's possible to do
anything you want.
This is the bare beginning of the ways you can work in Painter. You're
limited only by your imagination.. except for a couple of annoying
things like we still can't paint with Water Color on a Layer.. but it's
easy to work around that once you get used to the idea, and.. you can
use other brushes to paint a watercolor.
A couple of good sources of information on Water Color are:
Karen Sperling's Artistry Online CD's at:
I have the Artistry Deluxe CD, past issues of Artistry Magazine, and
there are some nice tutorials on doing watercolors in Painter. On the
other CD's there may also be more on watercolor but you'd have to check
since I don't have them (yet).
The Painter 6 WOW! Book by Cher Threinen-Pendarvis, Peachpit Press. Take
a look at this page for the table of contents. I notice that one of the
items in Chapter 3 Painting with Brushes is titled Watercolor:
"Wet-into-Wet" and Glazing :
http://beta.peachpit.com/wow/painter/contents.html#chap3
Hope this helps. Painter's a marvelous program and I can't imagine why
you wouldn't get what you want, and far more, using Painter. It's most
well known and unbeaten feature is its fantastic brush technology. Can
you tell I love Painter? <G>
frankg
Painter 5 available on cnet downloads - it can't save or print, but it's ok
to see if I like and can use the program - unless v.5 doesn't do the stuff
you mention above.
Mostly I just want to create the effect of a photo with "water color" wet
flowing edges into the background - hard to verbally describe, but I could
email a jpg attachment (about 50K) example to show you what I'm after ?
"Jinny Brown" <jinb...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Jinny Brown
Painter 5 and 5.5 use Floaters and Transparent Layers (the latter
requires setting the Brush Method to Plugin and using the Transparent
Layer Brush). In Painter 5 and 5.5 we can't make Selections on Floaters
or Transparent Layers, and there's no Preserve Transparency option to
allow you to apply Effects, for instance, to the painted portion of a
Transparent Layer without affecting the transparent areas.
The Water Color and Wet Brush Method are available, however, along with
the Wet Layer. Basically, I don't think that has changed much from
Painter 5/5.5 to Painter 6 but I'm not an expert on Water Color so you
might want to continue asking about it.
With any of the above mentioned features that are available only in
Painter 6, there are ways to work around those limitations in Painter 5
and 5.5 and it's not that difficult.
You can get a free full Painter 5.5 by purchasing either Jungle2D or
Jungle3D for around $80 - $90 at the DigArts site:
It's a good version of Painter and well worth the small price of the
DigArts software.. which allows you to paint images (trees, grasses,
leaves, etc.) using Painter's Image Hose and also provides images of
trees, foliage, etc.
frankg
Frank
"Jinny Brown" <jinb...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Ron Cavedaschi
Painter has numerous watercolour effects but particularly the Diffuse Water
brush and the Flat Water Blender give something approaching wet into wet.
You can then certainly export the results to Photoshop but I doubt you could
use the effect there. But why not stay in Painter to finish the picture then
move to Painter for CMYK etc.
Ron C
www.ronschi.co.uk
frankg <fh.g...@sympatico.ca(nospam)> wrote in message
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Ron Cavedaschi
gw <g...@treefernz.net.nz> wrote in message news:3AC3B5A3...@treefernz.net.nz...Ron:You mean ..."then move to Photoshop for CMYK &c"? Painter's (printing) color management is much inferior to Photoshop's, as doubtlessly you know.
gw
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