black not so black reprised
castlewalls
I've run into this problem recently that Maestro asked about (3/5/04) and
Corfield replied:
"Concerning black; the black at the top of the pallette is not the blackest.
Expand the pallette out an look at the inner end of it at the bottom.
There's a black hiding down there which is much more solid and opaque."
The problem is, Maestro never said which palette he was using (I'm using
CMYK and Draw's palette).
I've got my palettes set to show 7 'rows' (maximum) and cannot find this
"blacker" black.
My reason for bringing this up is I imported a jpg and the black part is
blacker than the normal black from the palette so I wound up making a 0.5"
duplicate of an area of the jpg and arrayed that as a background (which
incidentally, make the palette's black look like grey).
Thoughts?
Jim Lassiter
Castlewalls Vectorworks Ltd.
Vector Design & Illustration
c...@castlewalls.us
www.castlewalls.us
Michael Cervantes
Hello Jim.
What you have in your JPG is a composite black. It is richear than DRAW
Black palette 100% black.
Edit JPG in Paint and read ink value around the area with rich black. Use
this value in DRAW object.
Now, if you want that vector and bitmap display and print equal, you should
set Rendering Intent in Color Manager to Perceptual.
--
Michael Cervantes
C-Tech Volunteer
Designori
"castlewalls" <c...@castlewalls.us> wrote in message news:418f625b_3@cnews...
>
> I've run into this problem recently that Maestro asked about (3/5/04) and
> Corfield replied:
> "Concerning black; the black at the top of the pallette is not the
blackest.
> Expand the pallette out an look at the inner end of it at the bottom.
> There's a black hiding down there which is much more solid and opaque."
>
> The problem is, Maestro never said which palette he was using (I'm using
> CMYK and Draw's palette).
> I've got my palettes set to show 7 'rows' (maximum) and cannot find this
> "blacker" black.
> My reason for bringing this up is I imported a jpg and the black part is
> blacker than the normal black from the palette so I wound up making a 0.5"
> duplicate of an area of the jpg and arrayed that as a background (which
> incidentally, make the palette's black look like grey).
>
> Thoughts?
> Jim Lassiter
In draw, coreldrw.cpl and in Paint corelpnt.cpl both carry the dense black
that you need. It's tagged right onto the bottom end of the palette.
You are using the palette browser yes?
Best
Chirgles.
castlewalls
Chirgles, the "extra" black swatch at the bottom is not there (see jpg). I
have both draw & paint palettes open (viewing the max of 7 columns) as well
as Uniform. Only uniform has the extra bottom black.
Mike, I don't understand what you mean by use this value in draw, how do I
read an ink value in paint?
I set the render intent as you said and then went back and created the
linked jpg of my screen showing the 3 different blacks on top of the sampled
jpg which is darker so I'm not sure what the perceptual change is supposed
to do.
Michael Cervantes
"castlewalls" <c...@castlewalls.us> wrote in message
news:418fae91$1_3@cnews...
>
> Chirgles, the "extra" black swatch at the bottom is not there (see jpg). I
> have both draw & paint palettes open (viewing the max of 7 columns) as
> well
> as Uniform. Only uniform has the extra bottom black.
>
> Mike, I don't understand what you mean by use this value in draw, how do I
> read an ink value in paint?
I don't remember if DRAW 9 has an eyedropper tool, that is why I suggested
to edit the image in Paint, and to use the eyedropper or Info Docker there
to read the ink value in the area where you have the rich black in the
image. You will assign same value to your vector filled with black.
> I set the render intent as you said and then went back and created the
> linked jpg of my screen showing the 3 different blacks on top of the
> sampled
> jpg which is darker so I'm not sure what the perceptual change is supposed
> to do.
If you have rendering intent Perceptual image color and vector will have
same value and appearance. If you have Automatic, image will be render to
Perceptual and vector to Saturation.
>
> http://www.castlewalls.us/samples/palette.jpg (46k)
>
>
>
castlewalls
castlewalls
Here's the link to the artwork in question, many thanks you guys for the
help!
http://www.castlewalls.us/tables/publish/ttcvr.html