shaded relief maps
castlewalls
Would anyone know of a technique or way to create one in draw?
The only thing I can think of would be to have blurred black objects (the
shadow side of mountain ranges) and use the plastic plugin in Paint.
tia,
-Jim
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Jim Lassiter
Castlewalls Vectorworks Ltd.
Vector Design & Illustration
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Jeff H.
Show us a small scan of what you want to see, made by someone else.
JDH
"castlewalls" <c...@castlewalls.us> wrote in message news:41a48b8b_2@cnews...
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Here's a sample of the shading for the mountains:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cmccann01/test2.jpg
The only thing I can think of is gaussian blurred objects (the dark areas
filled with black) and then using the plastic plugin of paint, but I've got
a gut feeling that won't be quite the same to get the effect.
George Klein
I designed some maps using CorelDraw that have the appearance that you are
looking for.
http://www.trailsbc.ca/v_island_region/victoria-map.html
The textured map was derived from a bitmap fill.
George
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Yes, very similar, but not such a vast area. I see you used a bump map for
the land/forest texture? I guess (as this is new stuff to me) I'm looking to
do singular mountain ranges & small hills (my bumbling attempt at
cartography). This is all for MFRPG tabletop maps (not miniature scale
tho').
I've been browsing for osftware and/or tutorials that would make a more
realistic raised 3d map (most seem to be based on DEM info/input), but I'm
not looking to learn a whole new program, just hoping to receate the same or
similar landscapes with draw.
castlewalls
I found this:
http://www.zompist.com/howto2.htm
but it's more of a paint thing.. and i'm still struggling with masks (btw, I
grabbed the demo plugin for 3dmaker (text manipulation stuff) and used it on
a jpg logo I made (a perspective view) and the thing became bigger on one
end and that end was cut off by the original surrounding white box, I also
did it to the cpt version with the same results, how do you get the "box" to
not cut off the artwork?)
I like your landmass but I'm looking for a more structured way to make the
mountains, sortof a cheating way of just dwg a line where the range would
pass through and then click a button and viola - instant mountains.
But as I know such things aren't feasible just yet....
I also like your forest/grass fill, is that in draw somewhere?
Arial tree canopy fill patterns are also on my list of things to
find/create. I came close with trying to grab some stuff off a Maine fly-by
dvd I have (Acadia ntnl park) but I just get a black screen with a
printscreen or with corel capture <sigh>
Jeff H.
> http://www.zompist.com/howto2.htm
*** Looks OK, but seems quite painstaking compared to other ways.
> i'm still struggling with masks
*** Stop it! understanding masks in all respects is essential to
productivity. What do you struggle with?
(btw, I grabbed the demo plugin for 3dmaker (text manipulation stuff) and
used it on
> a jpg logo I made (a perspective view) and the thing became bigger on one
> end and that end was cut off by the original surrounding white box, I also
> did it to the cpt version with the same results, how do you get the "box"
to
> not cut off the artwork?)
*** Not exactly sure what you mean, but maybe try making your image size
bigger than the text itself so the text has room to "grow" when effect is
applied.
> I like your landmass but I'm looking for a more structured way to make the
> mountains, sort of a cheating way of just dwg a line where the range would
> pass through and then click a button and viola - instant mountains.
> But as I know such things aren't feasible just yet....
*** Bryce works this way. Also check out Terragen, it's Fwee!
http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/
> I also like your forest/grass fill, is that in draw somewhere?
*** It was a texture fill with some custom settings, look under "samples",
pick "vegetation".
JDH
castlewalls
Well, I sent a reply yesterday but it seems to not have gone
through...hmm,...
Well, as for the masking bit (Chirgles, I know your reading this too...;>),
I opened up a cpt logo for Dragonsfoot ("Dragonsfoot") in paint
(screenshot1). I did a color mask and inverted the mask (screenshot2) on it
and applied the 3dmaker plugin effect (screenshot3) and the image gets
erased "outside" of the white rectangle and then there's the original mask
that I can't get rid of.
I then do the color mask/invert mask again (screenshot4) which still leaves
the original mask thing/outline, and copy/paste as a new document (I don't
know of any other way to "grab" hold of the darn thing!) and that's where
the image is cropped (screenshot5, I moved the image [it had handles] to
better see the cropped area).
As for Bryce, I don't have the thing (no money!) and with my expertise in
paint, I'd probably wind up "offing" myself using Bryce or at least getting
a flatter forehead and a cracked monitor screen...
The Bryce pic does look very nice but I'm looking for a direct down view of
things (you'd think searching for aerial views of trees/forest/canopies
would actually turn up something...)
Well, here are the screenshots:
http://www.castlewalls.us/samples/scrnsht1.jpg 50k
http://www.castlewalls.us/samples/scrnsht2.jpg 61k
http://www.castlewalls.us/samples/scrnsht3.jpg 67k
http://www.castlewalls.us/samples/scrnsht4.jpg 58k
http://www.castlewalls.us/samples/scrnsht5.jpg 60k
Thanks for the help, I know i'm a pain, but that rastor manipulation
stuff,... I don't know, I thought making a webpage was hard!
Paul
Hi Jim,
a pity you're not in the uk. Computer Arts magazine has just given away
Bryce 4 on its covermount this month. It does splendid aerial views as well
as its more usual panorama views. Sorry if that's not very helpful.
Cheers,
毹稅
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Thanks Paul, everything is helpful in one way or another and besides, xmas
is coming up, so if everyone wants, I'll post my xmas list!
1. Bryce and a dummies guide to using it.
2. House (4 stories with a glass inground pool above the garage) on 20
acres - no trees.
3. 3 story motor yacht (not the sailing kind) and an additional 5000' of
beachfront property for mooring.
4......
Paul
Nice Xmas list. I'd prolly add tickets and flights for the British and Irish
Lions' tour of New Zealand. Or d'you think that might be a little greedy of
me?
Cheers,
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"castlewalls" <c...@castlewalls.us> wrote in message news:41ab2be4_3@cnews...
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Not greedy at all especially if Lucy Lawless happens to be in the vicinity..
Ya know, I never had any intention of doing "landscape" gaming maps, but
first the trees and bushes crept up on me, then water and dirt/rocks
(seamless tiles)....
Paul
---------- 8<snip ----------
first the trees and bushes crept up on me, then water and dirt/rocks
They're sneaky little devils, aren't they?
"castlewalls" <c...@castlewalls.us> wrote in message
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Well, if you insist on being "snippy"...
I've also been wrestling with making bare (winterized) trees too...;>)
Here's another bit of insight I came up with (via a dragonsfoot mapping
forum thread I started) for the mountains:
"The only way I can think of (using Coreldraw & Photopaint) would be to make
the overall vector mtn range "shape" (with an appropriate color or fill
pattern) and export to paint and apply a bump map to it. The problem there
is finding a decent BM that would give a correct representation and
alignment of mtns but most BM's for this type of application would be
nothing more than a scan of crinkled paper....
Unless one has a digital camera and they were to "prefold/crinkle" the paper
(not white paper, too much glare I would think, maybe wax paper...) into the
rough shape, snap a pic and after some cropping/erasing of extraneous
background, use that as a BM."
