Virus alert. I've among those being forged!!! (cross posted to Draw
Paul McGee
Apparently MyDoom has seen fit to "borrow" my name and the way my email
address used to be posted before we had to add some garbage to it to
thwart spam and virus forgers, from someone most likely in one of these
newsgroups.
I am getting messages (which themselves may be spoofed) from the Norton
Gate or whatever that messages sent to people I have never even heard of
and are not in any address book here contained a virus and were sent
from here.
I assure you that MyDoom is NOT coming from here. As I am not the only
person in these newsgroups getting this kind of nonsense the finger of
suspicion is pointing to someone in any of the Corel newsgroups.
So beware of email allegedly originating here.
Rick Altman
Paul, fear not -- it's the same for all of us extroverted types. Virus-laden
emails that seem to come from you simply sifnifies that you are in someone's
address book who actually has been infected. The more popular you are (i.e.
the more often you are in someone's address book), the higher the likelihodd
that your address will be spoofed by the virus.
We're all just dealing with it...
--
Rick Altman
CorelWORLD Conferences and Seminars
Six cities this Spring:
Calgary | Chicago | Dallas | NY / NJ | Phoenix | San Jose
http://www.corelworld.com
Nathan
Never use your real email addy in newsgroups.
Always respond to group.
It's as simple as that.
"Rick Altman" <ric...@nospamaltman.com> wrote in message
news:40203104$1_1@cnews...
Battleax
Another tip, which would actually work if everyone did it, is to not use the
Windows address book. Sure it's handy in OutlookExpress, and handy for
mailing to a group of addresses. But if everyone stopped using it the world
would be a better place.
B
"Nathan" <k9...@softhome.net> wrote in message news:402035d2_1@cnews...
Gabor Deak Jahn
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:00:20 -0800, "Rick Altman"
<ric...@nospamaltman.com> wrote:
Paul,
the best you can do about this situation in general, if you have some
influence on any system administrator near you, is to try to convince
them to turn off the misfeature of antivirus scanners to send warning
messages back to innocent users. Viruses have been spoofing addresses
for many years now, I very much doubt that as low as 1% of all these
warnings have any real foundation and significance today, the rest is
pure junk mail aggravating the problems on the Net.
Bye,
Gabor
Gabor DEAK JAHN
Hungarian CVP Forum
www.tramontana.co.hu/ventura
(English entries at the bottom of the side menu)
* Act against TCPA before it's too late!
* http://www.againsttcpa.com/
RichZ [C_Tech]
In article <402036f0_3@cnews>, Battleax wrote:
> Another tip, which would actually work if everyone did it, is to not use the
> Windows address book. Sure it's handy in OutlookExpress, and handy for
> mailing to a group of addresses. But if everyone stopped using it the world
> would be a better place.
>
addresses they can by looking in every file they can open on yo HD. That
includes html files in your cache, .db and .dbf files, .txt files, Downloaded
newsgroup messages, wherever they are in your drive, if they can read the
file, they will take anything that has *@*.??? as an email address and spoof
it.
MyDoom also purposely "breaks" the addresses it finds. By swapping the name
and domains around in the 'to' address, it ends up sending out a whole lot of
undeliverable messages. Which many ISP's mail handling routines automatically
return to the 'from' address, further spreading the thing and clogging the
plumbing of the net with more useless traffic.
RichZ
www.richz.com
Battleax
"RichZ [C_Tech]" <ct...@corel.com> wrote in message
news:VA.000005d...@corel.com...
Indeed they are getting nasty. Of course these viri would be irrelevant if
people wouldn't run attachments they don't know are secure.
A firend runs the IT department at a local business. Lasy year during one of
the worm scares he had notices come up on every screen warning not to run
any attachments. Also an 8"x11" sheet with a large print warning was placed
on every desk. Out of 235 employes 60 ran the attachments and infected the
office.
Education is the key.
B
Phil Rose
What about the Outlook address book? Is that any better? Is that a silly
question?
Phil
"Battleax" <unava...@thistime.net> wrote in message
news:402036f0_3@cnews...
Jan Il
"Battleax" <unava...@thistime.net> wrote in message
news:40204ddd$1_1@cnews...
Our company has a sort of "3 Strikes" policy. Yep....we get spastic
trigger-finger folks who seem to turn into Borgs when they see an attachment
and start repeating "Resistance is futile..." All 3 agencies of our
organization were infected 5 times in one day by the same person. Even after
a wash of IT E-mail warnings, bulletins, signs on every wall nearly. New
policy was issued the next day. Work force at one of the agencies is getting
mighty thin. <sigh>
Jan :)
Ed Brown
Gabor Deak Jahn
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 18:54:33 -0800, "Phil Rose" <Nobloodyspam@ever>
wrote:
Phil,
> What about the Outlook address book? Is that any better? Is that a silly
> question?
Yes... The words 'better' and 'Outlook' cannot be put into the same
sentence. Actually, I'd hesitate with the word 'mediocre', too... :-))
Here we are, a bunch of people knowing their stuff good enough to use
Ventura even if the world around us suggest otherwise. And some of us
use Outlook and IE... Beats me.. :-))
By the way, three new critical vulnerabilities, patch appeared two
days ago from Microsoft, he who uses IE should rush to download and
apply it. Chances are this will be the vehicle of the next mass worm.
Donna Lupi
When the Love Bug virus came out, I was the *only* person in our small
office that *didn't* get infected. Luckily, I was running a stand-alone copy
of Norton Anti-Virus and they were all using McAfee Corporate edition. I
updated virus definitions just about every day back then.
I remember standing there when a coworker started the infection. Even with
me telling them "NO, DON'T DO THAT! Just turn off your machine and wait for
our System Admin to come in". They kept double clicking on everything so
fast I felt like taking a ruler and slapping their mouse hand with it. After
the server got infected, it quickly spread to everyone else's machines,
especially since most stored their working files on the network drive. I, on
the other hand, have always found Ventura unstable on our network drive and
work off of my hard drive all day, then copy my working files to the network
at the end of each day. Our System Administrator was quite busy for some
time (I think it took him about two weeks to straighten it all out).
Lesson learned, our home office bought Norton AV Corporate edition and
installed it on the server machine so no one has to manually update the
virus definitions anymore.
--
Donna Lupi
EDO Professional Services
donna...@edocorp.com
Donna Lupi
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB832894)
Just a word of warning though...my company uses a web-based e-mail system.
Immediately after I installed this patch, I had a terrible time with my
username and password sticking. Now, all links in e-mails simply will not
work properly, as soon as I click on the link, the password dialog comes up
and conveniently *forgets* my username and password, re-entering the info
simply will not work and the darned dialog comes up over and over again,
eventually locking me out. It's not preventing me from reading my e-mail,
just preventing me from clicking on links. So cut and paste it is (for now
at least). Have to phone our company tech support folks now.
Jo Schaper
For what version of IE?
--
Geo Communications Services -- www.geocommunications.net
Jo Schaper's Missouri World -- http://www.missouriworld.net
Allison Moore
> And some of us
> use Outlook and IE... Beats me.. :-))
In the office, I'm stuck with both. Corporate standard. :>(
At least I've been able to load up the free version of Opera for testing our
website. Can't use it for much of anything else, and certainly not for
email. I've also discovered that our help desk for users won't run on
anything but IE. Same for the web products we're writing. Even though I've
talked about Opera for years, the product guys still don't know what it is.
Even our superduper tech guy has never looked at it-or any other non-IE
browser, AFAICT. With resources scarce and a client base that is unlikely to
use anything else, they do have a point. But still...
Allison
Jan Il
"Donna Lupi" <dl...@edo-services.com> wrote in message
news:4020f3f1_1@cnews...
Sheesh! Ya gottta love 'em, don'cha! ;-) But, I do exactly as you do, and
basically for the same reason. Years of crashes, extensive downtimes and
loss of a great deal of work due to faulty equipment and/or inept IT
management of same, were very hard lessons learned. I back up to the server,
but, I work totally from my hard drive at all times.I have had many a heated
argument with our IT people over this, who insist that we do not work from
or store files to the hard drive. However, not only am I very stubborn about
such issues, I also have the support of my immediate superiors and our
President. Our dept. operations are critical to the overall transit
operations of our system, so having information available when an incident
or equipment failure in the field happens is critical to immediate response
by our personnel or emergency response from other agencies. Fortunately, for
this reason, my computer is among those first cleaned. So, even though I
can't access the server, I, or my bosses can still access necessary
information from my hard drive. I perform all normal and prescribed
maintenance on my PC no matter what, and limit our IT contact with my PC as
much as possible. A lot of folks wonder why I'm able to work when many
others can't. I tell them it is simple. I consider my PC the same as my car;
Use it carefully, obey the laws, maintain it properly, be careful what I put
into it, use common sense, and *never* relay on, or become a slave to, any
server. ;-))
Jan :)
Donna Lupi
>A lot of folks wonder why I'm able to work when many
>others can't. I tell them it is simple. I consider my PC the same as my
car;
Words of wisdom.
Everton Williams
"Paul McGee" <oneone...@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:402029c6$1_2@cnews...
> Apparently MyDoom...
}}Detached from {{
Wayne Cunningham
Senior Editor, CNET Download.com
--
Last week the MyDoom virus was unleashed on the Internet, infecting millions
of computers through e-mail. This nasty little virus installs a proxy server
on your computer that a hacker could exploit to gain control. To propagate,
MyDoom carries its own e-mail program. This means that, unlike some viruses,
it doesn't rely on the e-mail client it finds on a host machine. If it finds
a shared Kazaa folder on a machine, it drops a copy of itself there, using
an enticing name such as office_crack. (If I've lost you here, allow me to
summarize: It's ugly.)
So how do I keep from getting stung in a world of mutating virus strains? I
keep antivirus software running on all my computers, and I take the
precaution of never double-clicking an e-mail attachment. (Most viruses use
an EXE extension, but MyDoom also uses ZIP, CMD, and BAT.) If the e-mail is
from someone I know, I use an application to open it. For image files, I
open a photo viewer and open the file in that. For any kind of text file, I
use a simple text editor such as Notepad.
For antivirus protection, I use Norton AntiVirus, a proven utility that lets
me rest easy. My subscription is about up, though, so I've been searching
the Download.com antivirus category to see what else is available. Avast
looks like one promising choice. The Home Edition is free, and its Windows
XP version scored 100 percent at Virus Bulletin. What antivirus protection
do you use? Look for our poll on the Download.com home page...
Everton Williams
"Everton Williams" <ever...@REMOVETHISPARTsympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:402144ac$1_2@cnews...
links to my previous post....
Norton AntiVirus,
http://ct.com.com/click?q=5a-ah31IP0KMKyQnDW9GSEppJ__z62R
Avast
http://ct.com.com/click?q=6f-3xL9IOL1b3zqLuwSqT8pFNrWPX6C
Virus Bulletin.
http://ct.com.com/click?q=84-CC2yQ60_y7xZTzwnO40yBYVkZ7Xy
Graeme Standage
>Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB832894)
>
>Just a word of warning though...my company uses a web-based e-mail system.
>Immediately after I installed this patch,<
How did you receive that 'patch'?
It's titled like the ones that are in fact Virus.
Never install a 'patch' that just arrives at your email address out of
the blue.
--
Graeme
{Please reply to newsgroup}
Gabor Deak Jahn
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:54:26 -0500, "Allison Moore"
<a---lli---son--@--meta---health---.--com> wrote:
Allison,
> anything but IE. Same for the web products we're writing. Even though I've
> talked about Opera for years, the product guys still don't know what it is.
> Even our superduper tech guy has never looked at it-or any other non-IE
> browser, AFAICT. With resources scarce and a client base that is unlikely to
> use anything else, they do have a point. But still...
It's very hard to get market share data about Opera. My own statistics
are much better than the general ones (a different audience, of
course). The current statistics show 63% IE, 10% Netscape and 26%
other. Around 6% of my visitors come from Macintosh, so a large
proportion of this 26% will be Opera (and note that many Opera users
have their browser identify itself as IE to avoid problems with
incorrectly written web pages, so this lowers its apparent market
share).
What's more interesting is another site I maintain, a civil society
where the majority of visitors are teachers of humanities. 73% IE,
4.5% Netscape, 22% other (18.5% of it is Opera). No Mac users so far,
two visitors using Linux.
None of these two statistics are representative of the whole Net
community, of course. But ignoring Opera because 'nobody uses it' is
plain wrong. And with all these worm attacks, people do abandon IE,
slowly but remarkably.
Gabor Deak Jahn
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 07:49:57 -0600, Jo Schaper
<joschapernospam@socketdotnet> wrote:
Jo,
> For what version of IE?
Practically everything, 5.01 to 6.
Donna Lupi
It was a critical update and I downloaded it from the Windows Update site. I
*never* get patches from e-mails.
Allison Moore
> But ignoring Opera because 'nobody uses it' is
> plain wrong. And with all these worm attacks, people do abandon IE,
> slowly but remarkably.
I'm with you. <g> However, our clients are hospitals. Their up-to-date
technology is in the patient treatment areas. As often as not,
administration is way behind the curve, not very technical computer-wise,
and very, very budget conscious. Just in the last half year, we've had
complaints about users being unable to open a pdf we'd sent them. Turned out
they were still using Acro Reader v2. They're often unable to unzip a file,
because they have nothing to unzip it with, and acquiring something will
require more effort than it's worth when they have much more pressing
priorities.
They use IE because it's free; it's familiar; it's on the machine; it's the
public standard; it's the corporate standard; it's a safe choice from a
political and administrative standpoint; and it's Microsoft, therefore it
must be the best. From their perspective, they have no reason to look at
anything else and probably wouldn't know how.
The arguments in that last paragraph apply to many more people than our
clients. I agree with you that things are changing, but in many areas,
change will not happen quickly. And it won't happen at all until something
blows up in their faces.
Allison
Jan Il
They use IE because it's free; it's familiar; it's on the machine; it's the
> public standard; it's the corporate standard; it's a safe choice from a
> political and administrative standpoint; and it's Microsoft, therefore it
> must be the best. From their perspective, they have no reason to look at
> anything else and probably wouldn't know how.
>
> The arguments in that last paragraph apply to many more people than our
> clients. I agree with you that things are changing, but in many areas,
> change will not happen quickly. And it won't happen at all until something
> blows up in their faces.
The arguments in that last paragraph certainly describes our IT head to a
"T". When he first came aboard, he decided there would be nothing but MS
products used company wide. Period! Now, I had over 453 custom system
schematics I created from scratch in Presentations 2.0 and 4.0. One day a
man appeared at my desk and said he was from IT and there to install our new
programs. He cleared off all the other programs and installed Office 2000
Pro., with the exception that he did not install anything but Word and
Excel. I had no warning, no chance to try to convert or even do a Save As
for anything.
I tried to get Corel Draw to convert the schematics, as recommended by MS
product support. He would not allow anything but MS products installed on
any company computer. He did not like Novell products. He would not even let
me have Visio. I asked to at least have PPT and he refused. His excuse for
adamantly refusing to give me PPT? He said I was not upper management, thus
not entitled to that program, and not a qualified user. Two days later the
Prez. called me and asked for a graphic for a special project for an
upcoming Board Meeting. I told him no could do and why. An hour later PPT
was installed on my PC. ;-)))
Jan :)
Jo Schaper
McAfee, on auto-update, is a whole lot easier to deal with the Norton,
which is very intrusive, and causes fits to tech support.
Jo Schaper
I never use IE unless the person was so inconsiderate to only write the
site to recognize IE or IE security signatures.
Netscape for many years, Opera on occasion. Opera always for checking
websites for general Web compatibility.
And anyone who uses Outlook or Outlook Express for their email
(excluding those mandated to do so at work and have no choice) get their
just desserts.
M$ does ok with OSes and Excel. Everything else, IMO, is a travesty.
Jo
Blaine
Gabor Deak Jahn wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:11:16 -0600, Jo Schaper
> <joschapernospam@socketdotnet> wrote:
>
> Jo,
>
>
>>site to recognize IE or IE security signatures.
>
>
> intervowen with the operating system now that an attack can arrive
> through its various parts running in the OS even if you never start
> the main program once.
>
> Bye,
> Gabor
>
> Gabor DEAK JAHN
> Hungarian CVP Forum
> www.tramontana.co.hu/ventura
> (English entries at the bottom of the side menu)
>
> * Act against TCPA before it's too late!
> * http://www.againsttcpa.com/
>
Blaine
Gabor Deak Jahn
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:11:16 -0600, Jo Schaper
<joschapernospam@socketdotnet> wrote:
Jo,
> I never use IE unless the person was so inconsiderate to only write the
> site to recognize IE or IE security signatures.
Yes, OK, but you *have* to download and apply IE patches. IE is so
intervowen with the operating system now that an attack can arrive
through its various parts running in the OS even if you never start
the main program once.
Bye,
edward thurston
Don't you just love those self-proclaimed experts ?
Ted
"Jan Il" <ab...@localhost.com> wrote in message news:4021798d$1_2@cnews...
Allison Moore
> The arguments in that last paragraph certainly describes our IT head to a
<sigh>
When Y2k rolled around and we had to drop AmiPro as our corporate
wordprocessor, the company chose Office. The president insisted we all had
to use it, period, and he went through a phase of "Why can't you do X in
Word? Isn't it easier?" Fortunately, he's smart, and he values productivity
over most things. After about a year and a half, he was tired of seeing
graphics disappear off the page when he wanted me to move something, tired
of hearing me scream when Word overwrote margins or renumbered paragraphs on
its own, and unhappy that it took me hours to do something in Word that I
could accomplish in a fraction of the time in another application. The only
time I have to use Word now is when the file absolutely must be transmitted
to someone else as a Word file.
Tonight, I heard his wife ask "why doesn't X work?". He answered, "Because
it's Microsoft. You can't expect it to work."
Allison
Jan Il
"edward thurston" <yh...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:40219875$1_2@cnews...
>
> Don't you just love those self-proclaimed experts ?
Yeesss....drawn....quartered....and well flamed! >;-)
Jan :)
Jan Il
"Allison Moore" <a---lli---son--@--meta---health---.--com> wrote in message
news:40219692$1_1@cnews...
ROFL!!!!
You sure we don't work for the same company??
Jo Schaper
Blaine wrote:
>
> Gabor Deak Jahn wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:11:16 -0600, Jo Schaper
>> <joschapernospam@socketdotnet> wrote:
>>
>> Jo,
>>
>>
>>> I never use IE unless the person was so inconsiderate to only write
>>> the site to recognize IE or IE security signatures.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, OK, but you *have* to download and apply IE patches. IE is so
>> intervowen with the operating system now that an attack can arrive
>> through its various parts running in the OS even if you never start
>> the main program once.
>>
>> Bye,
>> Gabor
True. But as of 12/31/03 (according to M$s own website) they no longer
support
any updates for Win98. So, I wouldn't think I could get it, anyway.
Eric Weber
In article <40218a04$1_3@cnews>, Blaine <bla...@nospam.com> says...
> Really? Please explain how that could happen.
>
Because many pieces of the Windows OS use IE/OE components to perform
their tasks. IOW, *you* may not be running IE, but your OS is running
some of its components.
-- Eric
[C_TECH Volunteer]
http://www.fhcomm.com
Check out the Ventura FAQ at:
http://www.draw.nu/venturafaq/
or download a PDF copy at:
http://www.fhcomm.com/VenturaFAQ.pdf
Blaine
running something like linux and then not as root. Is that correct?
Blaine
Eric Weber
In article <4021c905$1_1@cnews>, Blaine <bad...@cox.net> says...
> So what you're saying is that you are really only truly safe when
> running something like linux and then not as root. Is that correct?
Well, I think I would put it more like this: Windows incorporation of
some Internet functions into the OS (along with the way this was
implemented) has resulted in some security holes in Windows that are
difficult to seal.
As to whether Linux or any other OS is totally secure, I think that
every OS has its vulnerabilities, but some are better than others.
Jim Hart
In article <4021A872.9040702@socketdotnet>, joschapernospam@socketdotnet says...
> True. But as of 12/31/03 (according to M$s own website) they no longer
> support
> any updates for Win98. So, I wouldn't think I could get it, anyway
>
MS rescinded that decision and will support Win98 for at least another year.
--
--
Jim Hart
www.microtecniqs.com
Ventura FAQ available at:
http://www.draw.nu/venturafaq/
Daniel Lauber
Does that mean you now get to use Lotus WordPro, the very fine successor
to AmiPro and a great improvement on it?
Blaine
infected without ever opening the main program, i.e., Outlook, OE or IE
as stated by Gabor.
Blaine
Allison Moore
> True. But as of 12/31/03 (according to M$s own website) they no longer
> support
> any updates for Win98. So, I wouldn't think I could get it, anyway.
Check again. I saw a notice on 13 January that support had been extended.
Allison
Allison Moore
> Does that mean you now get to use Lotus WordPro, the very fine successor
> to AmiPro and a great improvement on it?
Absolutely! <vbg>
Allison
Jo Schaper
Thanks. You mean archangels on Mt. Gates listened to the people?
*|:-)
Donna Lupi
Actually, they found that some countries outside the U.S. are still using
Win98 quite a lot. I read an article on CNN about it. They will extend
support for one more year, then try to phase it out completely.
Donna Lupi
I've had a similar experience with the U.S. Government. When they pitched
WordPerfect for Word, there were a few of us in the office you could hear
moaning and groaning about twenty times a day. Now, when one of us learns
how to do a workaround, we share the knowledge, if only to help end a
coworkers suffering.
I must admit, I'm happy that *some* of our customers over at the base simply
won't compromise when it comes to their Technical Manuals and hire me to do
them in Ventura. Besides, most of the older versions of these pubs were
originally done in WordPerfect and Ventura 4 or 5 so it's more cost
effective to keep it in Ventura.
Converting everything to Word is not the answer when the customer gets the
pub after an extremely lengthy conversion and the file explodes upon
opening. It sure keeps me secure in my job. I'm the last of a dying breed
around here (got enough Ventura work to keep me busy for a while).
Jo Schaper
Donna Lupi wrote:
> Actually, they found that some countries outside the U.S. are still using
> Win98 quite a lot. I read an article on CNN about it. They will extend
> support for one more year, then try to phase it out completely.
Well, there is a school of thought that Missouri is only tangentially
part of the US, being located in the "flyover zone."
Paul McGee
Hi Carol Ventura Lady. You are now honoured too to be among the people
that MyDoom is forging.
A *lot* more evidence that someone in the NGs is sending them though!!!!
RichZ [C_Tech] wrote:
> In article <402036f0_3@cnews>, Battleax wrote:
>
>>Another tip, which would actually work if everyone did it, is to not use the
>>Windows address book. Sure it's handy in OutlookExpress, and handy for
>>mailing to a group of addresses. But if everyone stopped using it the world
>>would be a better place.
Jan Il
> Donna Lupi wrote:
> > Actually, they found that some countries outside the U.S. are still
using
> > Win98 quite a lot. I read an article on CNN about it. They will extend
> > support for one more year, then try to phase it out completely.
>
> Well, there is a school of thought that Missouri is only tangentially
> part of the US, being located in the "flyover zone."
Yeah..I think I read something a while back in National Geotraffic about the
Icelandic Red Footed Sagewignets fly over there on their way to and from
their wintering in Burbank, CA. Good thing they're not Sea Gulls......
---
Outgoing mail is scanned by AVG
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 2/3/2004
Jan Il
Something to be said for experience and know-how. ;-) I'm the actually only
one in our company that can do the schematics, the Access databases,
PowerPoint projects, and create the various types of graphics needed for the
training and maintenance manuals. I do work not only for our department,
but, for the Prez and Vice Prez as well. I usually don't want for much, but,
our parent company has the last say, so, sometimes, I have to bite the
bullet. However, the Prez/GM there also likes having the color coordinated
copies of the system schematics to pass out to visiting dignitaries too.
I am always eager to share my knowledge with those at work who are
interested to learn, and am always gently encouraging others to learn, as I
could sure use the help. The problem is, my counterparts 1) don't want to
learn because it is too much work, 2) afraid if they do learn they will be
asked to do more, 3) don't want to learn because it is too much work, 4)
don't want to learn because if I go on vacation or am out for a while, they
will have to fill in for me, thus...5) don't want to learn because it is too
much work. <sigh> So, I'm still the only one in the company who does this
type of work. But, like you said...it is job security. ;-)))
Jan :)
Graeme Standage
>
>A *lot* more evidence that someone in the NGs is sending them though!!!!<
Yep.
When I boasted here about the fact I don't use anti-virus software,
within a short space of time a lot more e-mail/virus arrived <g>
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Abe Hendin
Jim Hart wrote:
> MS rescinded that decision and will support Win98 for at least another year.
The actual date is June 30, 2006. Here's the reference:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=LifeAn1
It looks from this page like MS won't be issuing security patches unless
specifically asked by customers through the normal assisted (paid)
support channels. I'm not sure what an "extended hotfix" is, but no more
of those.
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Abe Hendin
Graeme Standage wrote:
> When I boasted here about the fact I don't use anti-virus software,
> within a short space of time a lot more e-mail/virus arrived <g>
Can't see how that's a "boast", Graeme. More like an admission of
insanity in this day and age. ;-)
Mark Dingemanse
Do you believe that some _person_ is purposedly sending the virus to
adresses from this NG? I think that would simply be too much work. The virus
has the ability to spread itself very quickly and very wide; I don't see why
some person would bother sending it manually to some adresses.
If it is true, I would like to see this person sending it to me as well. I
haven't seen it one time. Guess I'm not on many list and not in many
adressbooks.
Mark
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Graeme Standage
>More like an admission of
>insanity in this day and age. ;-)<
Not really, more a case of being sensible. Don't use OE, Don't
download messages automatically, never ever even view an unsolicted
e-mail. Anything from anywhere with an 'Odd' title or from unkown
person gets 'zapped' - even 'zap' many forwarded messages from known
people <g>.
It just gets a pain to have to 'zap' so many these days.
Those not getting all these virus attacks are not using ledgit
addresses on this forum. Although I said I was targeted after my
comment it was not necessarily as 'individual', prolly a coincidence
(and maybe others were also targeted).
Abe Hendin
Graeme Standage wrote:
> Not really, more a case of being sensible.
> It just gets a pain to have to 'zap' so many these days.
I understand. I'm sensible too, and I appreciate a little help in being
so! ;-)