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Sean Galbraith

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Mar 11, 2004, 2:35:05 PM3/11/04
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(also posted in the Corel Draw 10 group, since I imagine it will be the same
technique)

I just applied my first PostScript fill (*trumpets sounding*).

..... now how do I change the color of it to match the outline's color (i.e.
not black)?

Thanks!
Sean

Sean Galbraith

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Mar 11, 2004, 2:55:58 PM3/11/04
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I'll try that.

My temporary work around was to convert the object and fill to a bitmap with
transparency and
change the color of it in PhotoPaint.


"Paul McGee" <oneone...@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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>
> There may be an easier way but I never found it.....
>
> I did, when I had a similar problem, export "selected" (that being the
> object containing the fill) as an EPS and then imported (or opened
> separately?) as EPS interpreted at which time it became a collection of
> curves (typically a huge number of them.) These curves, being curves,
> can now be edited the same way you would edit, well, anything.
>
> Can't remember who suggest it so I can blame it on them -- perhaps Hunter?
>
> One other possibility that might be available in some cases -- a colour
> filter over the top of it? In very select simple situations might be
viable?

Craig McWalter

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Mar 11, 2004, 2:44:32 PM3/11/04
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ummm....I don't think you can. Maybe covert it to a monochrome bitmap and
color it?

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Paul McGee

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Mar 11, 2004, 2:49:50 PM3/11/04
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There may be an easier way but I never found it.....

I did, when I had a similar problem, export "selected" (that being the
object containing the fill) as an EPS and then imported (or opened
separately?) as EPS interpreted at which time it became a collection of
curves (typically a huge number of them.) These curves, being curves,
can now be edited the same way you would edit, well, anything.

Can't remember who suggest it so I can blame it on them -- perhaps Hunter?

One other possibility that might be available in some cases -- a colour
filter over the top of it? In very select simple situations might be viable?

Sean Galbraith

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Mar 11, 2004, 3:10:00 PM3/11/04
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Do you know if there is a reason why it can't be done as simply as other
commands?

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Hunter Elliott

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Mar 11, 2004, 3:38:44 PM3/11/04
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"Paul McGee" <oneone...@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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>

> There may be an easier way but I never found it.....
>
> I did, when I had a similar problem, export "selected" (that being the
> object containing the fill) as an EPS and then imported (or opened
> separately?) as EPS interpreted at which time it became a collection of
> curves (typically a huge number of them.) These curves, being curves,
> can now be edited the same way you would edit, well, anything.
>
> Can't remember who suggest it so I can blame it on them -- perhaps Hunter?

LOL um, gee, thanks, Paul, I think :) but no, can't blame this one on me...
although it does sound like something I'd think of.

Andrew Hurt

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Mar 11, 2004, 7:00:01 PM3/11/04
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Sean Galbraith wrote:

Try a Frozen Lens over the fill (Fish Eye @ 0% works well): effectively
creates a new Group of editable Objects when 'Frozen'.
--
ah

Landy

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Mar 11, 2004, 8:21:07 PM3/11/04
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Graeme,
The fills in question are held in a file called userproc.ps in the "\custom
data" folder.
You can edit it, but you yave to know what you're doing. I don't - but I
managed to add another pattern or two to those present. e.g. I made a
"sand" pattern fill by copying the "stars" one in the file, changing the
name, and swapping white for black by changing the number in front of
"setgray" in each case. There are some fills in this file with routines for
colour selection - but the language is too complicated for my brain!
cheers
Bill

"Graeme Standage" <gst...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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>
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 15:10:00 -0500, "Sean Galbraith"
> <smgal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Seems like a no-brainer to me.<
>

> I think (but might be wrong) because the postscript fills are part of
> what is hard/soft wired within postscript. i.e. when printing to a
> postscript device it will be called upon by command rather than
> created by coreldraw and sent to print - if that makes sense.
>
> Then again, in CorelDraws case the Corel software handles more of the
> postscript side before handing off to the driver/RIP, so maybe the
> above is not right. <g>
>
>
> --
> Graeme
>
> {Please reply to newsgroup}
>
>

Graeme Standage

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Mar 11, 2004, 8:25:31 PM3/11/04
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 15:10:00 -0500, "Sean Galbraith"
<smgal...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Seems like a no-brainer to me.<

I think (but might be wrong) because the postscript fills are part of

Paul McGee

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Mar 11, 2004, 9:07:44 PM3/11/04
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Neato Andrew.

And after a great deal of experimenting I finally found that you can
simply ungroup the "frozen lens group of 3 objects (darned if I know
what the third one is!) and one winds up with, it seems the original
from which the lens was created, a copy of the filled rectangle still
with its fill in original colour (discard both of those in most cases)
and a potentially quite large and complex group of ordinary objects that
are (were the PS fill, that you can do what you will with.Found that
when tearing my hair out trying to get the colour of the lines I wanted
and not get an outline of the object that was filled to start the ball
rolling.

Just another thing that Hunter didn't tell me. <G>.

Wish I had known this years ago! (BTW my test was on CDR-12; 11 might be
a little different.)

Paul McGee

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Mar 12, 2004, 10:47:49 AM3/12/04
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Just one note though -- don't even attempt the ungroup (works) and then
the delete with the PS Fill "carpet!" I waited about half an hour on a
P4-1.8 with 512 mb before giving up and going to bed...... As you may
have noted the Carpet PS fill is a very complex one. While the fill
works the final action of trying to get it into tens of thousand of
elements probably would complete... eventually. By the time I canned it
my very cool running processor (normally reports between +29 and +31
Celsius was running at +44 C degrees.

Test test was on CDR-12. Simple fills such as hatching did not give any
problem whatever.

Andrew Hurt

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Mar 14, 2004, 1:42:38 AM3/14/04
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Paul McGee wrote:

'Carpet' is a monster!

I did a few rough tests, and a Frozen Lens of 'Carpet' did make for a
multi-multi-multi-object Group . . . and my little p3-733 hesitated
mightily on all operations revolving around that particulat PS fill.

I do notice a marked increase in responsiveness with v.12 on the same
large Group of Objects--any selection of Objects numbering over about
5,000 in v.11 takes a long time to 'finish' being selected (and
de-selected).

In general, v.12 seems to be about 6-8X faster on Multi-Object Group
enumeration than v.11.

Still, a very noticeable delay in interface-input sensitivity (not an
hourglass--more like a non-response to user input), but nothing like the
rest of the evening.

Doing a Frozen Fisheye@0% Lens on a 5cm Rectangle filled with
Carpet@'300dpi' took about 10 minutes to complete.

Selecting it, post-Freeze, wasn't too bad (took about 30 seconds), but
'Ungroup All' took almost 20 minutes to complete.

I didn't notice anything outrageous, though, when deleting anything.
--
ah

Sean Galbraith

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Mar 18, 2004, 9:31:20 AM3/18/04
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Frozen Lens?

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Andrew Hurt

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Mar 18, 2004, 9:12:33 PM3/18/04
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Sean Galbraith wrote:

> Frozen Lens?

There is a Lens Docker in DRAW--Alt+F3, by default.

Applying a Lens to an Object affects the Object/Group below it--many
different effects can be achieved.

Within the Docker, there are three sub-selectors: Frozen, Viewpoint and
Remove Face.

Selecting Frozen, then 'Apply', will 'freeze' the lens-effect, and
'capture' this as a lens-modified copy of the underlying Object/Group.

The copy is, effectively, a separate Object/Group, and is fully
editable/transformable.

Here's a sample:

http://andyrew.info/corel/samples/12/draw/frozen_lens.cdr

['Freeze'ing a 0% Fish Eye Lens is the way to capture a PostScript Fill
as editable vectors from within DRAW/RAVE . . . just be aware that there
are quite a few Objects captured in the Freeze, even duplicates:
'Ungroup All', and remove the Prevously-Lens'ed Curves (there should be
two), and the lines (if you chose to have 'Line width:' >0)--this leaves
the Closed-Curve Objects]

Also, see: Menu > Help > Index > keyword: 'lens'

Have fun!

Andrew Hurt

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Mar 18, 2004, 10:11:51 PM3/18/04
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Andrew Hurt wrote:

>
> Sean Galbraith wrote:
>
>> Frozen Lens?
>

> [snip]
>
> http://andyrew.info/corel/samples/12/draw/frozen_lens.cdr

snuh!

http://andyrew.info/corel/samples/frozen_lens_v11.cdr
--
ah

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