توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین

[خاکسار‎]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Atif Aleem]

Very nice

tum kab toba kar rahy ho
galt akaid, bidaat aur gumrahi se

Allah se dua mango Allah tuj par haq ko khool de

mur mukhlas ho ky mango

Allah zaroor raham kary ga
In Shaa Allah

[... خاکسار‎]

 
Jab tum sabit kar do gay kay mara akida ghalat hay our tumhara sahi.

Ab hay himat tu barho ahay. 

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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:44:42 -0700
Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
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[Atif Aleem]

Apna introduction karwao

tum koon ho

aur tumhara akeeda kia hy 

aur tumhari buniad kai hy?

swal par swal ni karna

sirf jawab dena hy

ok

[... خاکسار‎]

 
1- Ainda jab bi email karo muja tu reply bi us main include hona chahiya. email ko aik thread main hona chahiya.

 
"Apna introduction karwao

tum koon ho"

 

2- Introduction kay lia itna kafi nahi kay mara name mara ID main hay??? Lahore say hun.

 
 
"aur tumhara akeeda kia hy

aur tumhari buniad kai hy?"

 

3- Agar tumhan yahi nahi pata tu phir tum na mara akida ko ghalat kasa kah dia???

 
"tum kab toba kar rahy ho
galt akaid, bidaat aur gumrahi se"
 

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Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 05:40:56 -0700

Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین
From: ati...@gmail.com
To: coool_vu...@googlegroups.com

[Atif Aleem]

Asslamo ALikum

Eid Mubarak

jinab mujy aap ky akaid ka aap ki mails se andaza ho gia hy

main ny poocha is liy hy keh aap ky galt hony ki buniad ko aap ky mnuh se niklwaya jay

is liy aap ka taraf poocha hy 

keh aap farmain aap ki buniad kia hy

aur aap ky akaid kai hain?

[خاکسار‎]

WaAlikum-o-Salam,

 

Khar Mubarak.

 

 

Agar janta ho tu baat agay barhao, waqat kyun zaya karta ho???

 

mara Taluk Ahl’Sunnat Wal Jammat say hay. (Hanfi Bralwi)

 

Muhammad Bilal

[Atif Aleem]

acha

Ahmad Raza Khan koon hy?

[خاکسار‎]

Koi bi ho ga. Is baat say mara Akida ka kya kam hay??? Akida ki baat karo.

 

Kisi specific person say mara akida ka koi kam nahi.

[Atif Aleem]

"mara Taluk Ahl’Sunnat Wal Jammat say hay. (Hanfi Bralwi)"

yeh aao ki statment hy

is main main ny "

(Hanfi Bralwi)" ky mutalak poocha hy

mujy is ka jawab do

Bralwi  kia hy

[خاکسار‎]

 

Bralwi = Pahchan hay, jasa Hanfi hay wasa hi Bralwi hay.

 

Yah sirf tumhari malomat kay lia hay. Kyun kay ab Deobandi bi apna ap ko Ahl’Sunnat kahlana lagay han. IS lia un say farak rakhna kay lia Bralwi kaha jata hay.

[Atif Aleem]

Hanhi se murad to Imam abbu hanifa hain

ji keh imaam hain

aur un ki din ki tashreeh par amal karny waly hanfi hoty hain

Bralvi ?????

wesy kesy ho gia?

[خاکسار‎]

 

kam ki baat karo, is baat par khud say research karo.

 

Baat Akida ki shuru karo agar kar sakta ho tu, No Right Left --- Straight to point.

[Atif Aleem]

kaam ki baat hi kar raha hon

akedy ki baat base ky bageer kesy ho sakti hy

apna intro to copmplete karwao

aagy per baat ho gi

[خاکسار‎]

 

Kya chata ho ab?

 

Mara introduction ka kya kam hay mara akida say? Tumhara taluk kis farka say hay?

[Atif Aleem]

mera bhai

tum ny khod ko "mara Taluk Ahl’Sunnat Wal Jammat say hay. (Hanfi Bralwi)" kaha hy

mujy is ki tareef bta do
Ahl e Sunnat =

Wal Jmaat=

Hanfi=

Bralwi=

kion dar rahy ho

ya tum ko khod ni maloom wesy hi ek ratta rtaya fikra bool dia hy

main bhi zaroor btaon ga

keh main kis din ka manny wala hoon

na keh firky ka

aur yeh bhi sabat karon ga

keh firka tum loog ho

hum nahi

Alhamdo Lillah

[Atif Aleem]

mera bhai

tum ny khod ko "mara Taluk Ahl’Sunnat Wal Jammat say hay. (Hanfi Bralwi)" kaha hy

mujy is ki tareef bta do
Ahl e Sunnat =

Wal Jmaat=

Hanfi=

Bralwi=

kion dar rahy ho

ya tum ko khod ni maloom wesy hi ek ratta rtaya fikra bool dia hy

main bhi zaroor btaon ga

keh main kis din ka manny wala hoon

na keh firky ka

aur yeh bhi sabat karon ga

keh firka tum loog ho

hum nahi

Alhamdo Lillah

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:30 PM, خاکسار <muhamma...@live.com> wrote:

[Atif Aleem]

mera bhai

tum ny khod ko "mara Taluk Ahl’Sunnat Wal Jammat say hay. (Hanfi Bralwi)" kaha hy

mujy is ki tareef bta do
Ahl e Sunnat =

Wal Jmaat=

Hanfi=

Bralwi=

kion dar rahy ho

ya tum ko khod ni maloom wesy hi ek ratta rtaya fikra bool dia hy

main bhi zaroor btaon ga

keh main kis din ka manny wala hoon

na keh firky ka

aur yeh bhi sabat karon ga

keh firka tum loog ho

hum nahi

Alhamdo Lillah

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:30 PM, خاکسار <muhamma...@live.com> wrote:

[خاکسار‎]

Aik email ko 3 bar bhaj kar kya sabit karna chahta ho? Abi say bokhla gay ho?

 

Agar hakikat ko face kar sakta ho tu mari emails ko without moderation ana do.

 

mujy is ki tareef bta do

Ahl e Sunnat Wal Jmaat =    Pyara Aqa Salal’laho Alaha Wasalam ki Sunnat Our Sahaba Kiram ki Jammat kay mutabik amal karna.

 

Hanfi=     kay Parokar ko Hanfi Kahta han

 

Bralwi=    Jo log Ahl’Sunnat Wal Jammat say taluk rakhta han our say Mukalid han wo Bralwi kahlata han.

 

 

 

Tum apni kahi hoi baat par ao: Agay picha kyun bhag raha ho?

 

Is baat par kyun nahi ata?

[Atif Aleem]

bokhla tum gay ho 

se jo talak rakhty hain ho hanfi hain

bralwi ni

bralwi kia hy?

jo baat ka asal focus hy waha aa ky dandi maar jaty ho

bralvi ko drfine karo

aur tarpo ni

buhat lamba time hy apny pass

tum ko jany ni doon ga

aur tum ko mode se bhi remove kar raha hoon

[خاکسار‎]

 

Bralwi koi maslak tu nahi hay, jis par tum bahas kar rahaho.

 

Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Fazil Bralvi Rahmatullah Alaha India kay shahar Brali kay rahna wala thay. Our wo buhat bara Alim deen thay, jo log un kay akhaz kiya hoa masail say mustafeed hotay han un ko bralvi kahta han, agar tumhan pahla wali definition pasand nahi ai tu yah lay lo. (Kyun kay wo bi Ahl’Sunnat say taluk rakhtay han, our Hanfi bi han) Is lia baat tu aik hi hoi na....

[Atif Aleem]

Agar aap loog Ahmad raza Khan ki tashreeh par amal karty hain

to Imam abu hanifa ki tashreeh jo unhoon ny ki hy wo jkahan gai?

shriat main jis ki tashreeh par amal kia jata hy

wo imaam hota hy

aur imaam ek hi hota hy

Ahmad raza khan ki tashreeh kion zaroori karrar pai

aur kai Ahmad raza Khan sab aur Immam abu hamnifa ky btay hoy msail main kahain bhi ikhtilaf nahi hy kia?

[خاکسار‎]

Akhtalaf kahin bi Ulma kiram ki ray main a sakta hay. Jis ki tahkik zayada ho gi us ki ray mazboot ho gi.

 

Our Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Fazil Bralwi ki tashreehat tu urdu main han, un ki koi baat deen main hujat nahi hay.

 

Bara Imam 4 hi han our un 4 Aima main sa sab say bara martaba Imam Azam Razi Allah Anha ka hay. Isi lia koi shakhs yah nahi kahta kay wo Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Rahmatullah Alaha ka Mukalid hay.

[Atif Aleem]

aap ahmad raza khan sab ko Immam likhty hain

per kehty hain un ka koi mukalad nahi hy

agar takleed nahi hy to imamat kesi?

[خاکسار‎]

Imam tu Imam Masjid bi hota hay.

 

Lakin Jin ki baat hujat hay wo tu har Imam nahi hota na.

[Rana Anjum]

Walakumsalam Jazzak Allah 

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[Rana Anjum]

Aslamoalakum Atif bahi, kise pr keechar auchalna sa phly apny giraban ma dakh loo k khood kya hoo ...its an advice only ... 

FYI

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Atif Aleem <ati...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM
Subject: Rana
To: managementvustudymasti <anju...@gmail.com>


aap ki sehar sister (Palwasha Khan) nazar nahi aati hy aaj kal 
kahain hajj ko to ni chali gai

:P

kidher hoti hy?

[Atif Aleem]

yahan sirf Khak saar ko nazar aany do
tum kahain aur milo

tumhara daman kitna saaf hy mujy pta hy

aur us ko bahan kahny par itna gusa kion kia?

tum wahi ho na VU Tinkoo waly

jis ny apni bahnioon ko wahan add kia

per wahan nangi pic post ki hain

apna mnuh par lga hoa kechr dekh loo

per yeh sab bak bak kar lina

aur is kaam ly kiy koi alag thread bna lo

wahan tum se bhi baat ho jay gi

yahan mazhabi baat ho rahi hy

is liy usy hony do

khaksaar sab kahain la jawab to ni ho gay

jo tum apna ganda mnuh utha ky yahan aa gay ho

ek traf jin ko bahnhain bna ky un se personal batain poochty gho

dosri id  se unhai bahnoon ko psany ki koshash karty ho 

aur personal batoon ko uase karty ho

maha begeerat insaan 

[خاکسار‎]

Tumhari email kay thik 3Min bad tuhan reply kardia tha main na, our abi tak tumhri koi khabar nahi hay.

 

Ab tum kisi our janib nikal lia ho.  

Track par aoo. Mout say pahla akida darust karlana chahiya, our mout tu kisi bi waqat pohanch rahi hay.

 

[Atif Aleem]

main bhi yahi keh raha hoon

keh moot se pehly akida sahih kar lina chahiy

aur akidy ky bary main jhoot bhi ni bolna chahiy

aur zidd bhi ni karni chahiy

moot ka koi pta nahi

aur ALlah diloon ky bhaid buhat achi trah janta hy

ok

[خاکسار‎]

Bas baat khatam ho gai???

 

Ho gaya mara akida ghalat sabit???

 

 

From: Atif Aleem

Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:59 AM

To: coool_vu...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین

 

main bhi yahi keh raha hoon

keh moot se pehly akida sahih kar lina chahiy

aur akidy ky bary main jhoot bhi ni bolna chahiy

aur zidd bhi ni karni chahiy

moot ka koi pta nahi

aur ALlah diloon ky bhaid buhat achi trah janta hy

ok

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:45 PM, خاکسار <muhamma...@live.com> wrote:

Tumhari email kay thik 3Min bad tuhan reply kardia tha main na, our abi tak tumhri koi khabar nahi hay.

 

Ab tum kisi our janib nikal lia ho.  

Track par aoo. Mout say pahla akida darust karlana chahiya, our mout tu kisi bi waqat pohanch rahi hay.

 

********    Images is removed to save bandwidth & space, refer to previous email to see images.    ******

[Atif Aleem]

jinab aaop ny reply ni kia

aap kahty ho keh Ahmad Raza kHan immam hain

to per main ny swal kia tha keh ek immam ky hoty hoy dosry ki kai zaroroat hy

kia uisa ho sakta hy

aap ny farmaya keh masjad main immam hota hy

to wo shriat ka nahi nmaz ka imaam hota hy

aur wo bhi hamisgha ek hi hota hy

aap ny kabhi isa dekha hy

keh 2 ya is se ziada imaam ek nmaz karwain

is ka jawab ni dia aap ny

[خاکسار‎]

Tu masla kya hay ab???

 

App sabit kijiya kay wo shariat walay hi imam han our un ki taqleed ki jati hay?

 

Main na tu app ko bata dia hay kay un ki taqleed nahi ki jati.

 

Shariat Walay Sirf 4 Bara Aima Kiram hay.

 

1- Imam Azam Abu-Hanifa     RaziAllah Anha

2- Imam Shafi     Rahmatullah Alaha

3- Imam Mallik     Rahmatullah Alaha

4- Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal     Rahmatullah Alaha

 

 

Chalo yahi kisi Ahl’Sunnat say sabit kardo kay in 4 Kay ilawa Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Fazil Bralvi ki bi Taqleed ki jati hay?

 

Jasa kay tum na kaha, “2 ya is se ziada imaam ek nmaz karwain” agar 2 Imam Namaz nahi karwa sakta tu Masail tu bata sakta han na??? Yah kay us par bi pabandi hay?

[Atif Aleem]

yaar

ek traf tum Ahmad Raza Khan ko immam kahty ho

disri trah tum yeh sab kehty ho

jo keh bilkul theek hy

aur per oper se tum loog batain sari Ahmad Raza ki manty ho

aur Immam abbu hanifa ki buhat sari batain nahi manty ho

Rasool Allah SAWW ka ilam e gaib
hazar nazar hona

aur khatam wageera kahan hanfiat main jaiz hain

per mujy yeh bta sakty ho

aur Ahmad Raza per kis mukaam par hain aap ki nazar main 

[Rana Anjum]

Amma ' ba-ikhlasa aggay gaal munasib krni 

Mitthi Kheer Paka Muhammad, Kutti'an agay tarni 

 Or munasib bat ya ke me ap ko Jazzak Allah kah kr ais group sa Unsubscribe kr loo 

[Atif Aleem]

main tum ko tumhari jaroon tak janta hoon
samjy

aur main teri trah kamina bhi ni hoon

main vesi gandi harkat ni karoon ga

jestio ny VUSM main mery sath ki thi

kion keh main teri trah galiz aur kamina nahi

aagy teri marzi

is ID se jao gy

kisi aur fake ID se aa hjo gy

buhat sari hoon giu peghly bhi

kion keh yeh kutton wali khaslat hy 

kesy jay gi

ok

[Atif Aleem]

wesy bhi tum is ID se nahi
kisi aur ID ky refrence se mail kar rahy ho
ok

vu.bs....@gmail.com

hmmmmmmmm

[خاکسار‎]

Kisi ko Imam kahna kahna juram hay???

 

Hamara Nazdeek un ki buhat ahmiyat hya. Kyun kay un ki deen kay lia buhat khidmat han, Unhon na badmazhabon ko expose kiya our phir khud sa hi nahi kay khud hi fawta laga dia.

 

Balkay un ki tahriron ko Saudi Arab kay jo us waqat kay Sunni Ulma thay, jo kay pakay Sunni hoa kartay thay un say fatway lia.

 

Un ki tahkik  buhat zayada hay, un ka tarjuma Quran Adab wala tarjuma hay, Fatawa Rizwia 30 Volumes han us kay. 50 Say zayada Ilam par unhan uboor hasil tha.

 

Main jitni tareef karta jaoun ga tumhara dil utna tang hota jay ga.

 

 

“aur Ahmad Raza per kis mukaam par hain aap ki nazar main ”

 

Yah tu adab ki baat hay, koi tu “Rasool Allah SAWW ka ilam e gaib” saww par hi guzara karta hay, jo kay intahi ghalat hay, adab kay bi khilaf hay our hukam kay bi,

 

Our koi Rasool Allah Salal’laho Alaha Wasalam  likhta hay.

 

 

Ab tum track ki taraf a jao, asal masla tu akida ka ha.

[Atif Aleem]

lolz

herat hy Ahmad Raza Khan sab Mujadad bhi thy

wesy aap ny baat ka jawab deny ki bjay baat ko gumma dia hy

aap ki mails ko jis main buhat se budaat ko aap ny jaiz karar dia hy

baat to un par karni hy

likan aap ka Ahmad Raza Khan ky sath kai talak hy

wo abhi tak clear ni hoa

baki jitni bhi batain aap ny ki hain wo la hasil hain

mera dil tang ni hy

aap shaid tangi feekl kar rahy hain

[خاکسار‎]

Chalo ab kuch asa karo, apna sawalat ko points main likho.

 

Just like:

1. Question is
2. Question is
3. Question is

Phir tum yah nahi kah sako gay kay tumhara koi sawal baki hay.

 

Our muja wo baat bato jis par toba karni hay?

 

Kyun ka mara nahi khayal kay Ahmed Raza khan Rahmatullah Alaha ko Imam kahna say TOba karni parti hay, yah phir yah koi Kufr, shirk yah biddat ho.

 

-------------- Pyara Line par ao. -------------  Zayada dar main asa time waste nahi karun ga. ---------------

 

• Sawal Point main with “?” at the end of question
• Agar koi sawal baki hay tu usa highlight karo apna reply main kay yah sawal baki rah gaya hay.

[Atif Aleem]

wesy kmal hy keh aap ko isy swal ki samj ni aai

Q :  aap ky nazdeek Ahmad Raza Khan kia hain?

swal buhat asan hy

[خاکسار‎]

 

“Q : aap ky nazdeek Ahmad Raza Khan kia hain?”

 

 

Ahmed Raza Khan Insan thay our Deen kay Alim, Mujadid, Mutrajim, Ahl’Sunnat ka difa karna wala us waqat jab kay fitna buhat zayada sarbuland ho rahay thay.

[Atif Aleem]

yeh kaam to buhat sary logoon ny kiy hain

per aap ny khod ko sirf  Bralvi  hi kion likha hy

aur kahlaty ho?

aur jin bidaat par tum loog amal pera ho

kabar par azaan dena

khatam

giarvain

kabrain pakki karna

mzar bnana

yeh sab  kahan se aai hain 

agar tum ek mujadad ko manny waly ho to?

mujadad to din ko aab e muqatar ki trah saaf karta hy

us main se bidtain aur falto chezain nikalta hy

tum Mujadad ko manny ka dawa karty ho

aur yeh sab bidtain ikhtiar kiy hoy ho

kion?

kesy ?

[خاکسار‎]

Put your question/query in tht form of point which I told you before.

[Atif Aleem]

? marks kagy hain

wahi swal hain

un ka jawab do

[خاکسار‎]

 

“

yeh kaam to buhat sary logoon ny kiy hain

per aap ny khod ko sirf Bralvi hi kion likha hy

aur kahlaty ho?

”

 

Maslan kis kis nay yah kam kiya hay? Bralvi aik pahchan hay, tumhan pahla bi bataya hay kay yah koi maslak nahi hay.

 

Sirf khud ko batil say alahda karna kay lia pahchan hay.....

 

Deobandi bi khud ko Ahl’Sunnat Wal Jammat kahlana laga han, lakin un ka akida darust nahi hay, is lia khud ko un say alahda rakhna kay lia hum bralvi likh data han.

 

1- Ab tum batao kay Bralvi likhna Shirk hay, kufr hay, biddat hay, Haram hay??? Kay is baat par toba karni hay?

 

 

“kion?

kesy ?”

 

2- Yah kyun kis baat par hay???

[Atif Aleem]

ek aur ? mark bhi hy

wo bhi dekho

us ka bhi jawab do

[خاکسار‎]

Question revise karo, sahi tarika say likho... Than I will try to answer each of your question.

 

Don’t waste time in wrong format.

[abdul razzaq]

Dear Khaksaar and Aatif,

This is study/info forum why you both are debating on such controversial topic here? Nothing can be achieved by doing so, people may c this as a matter of competition for religious logic not more. Therefore it is requested to kindly not post such comments.

Hoping for the best.

Regards,

Abdul.

[Atif Aleem]

aur jin bidaat par tum loog amal pera ho

kabar par azaan dena

khatam

giarvain

kabrain pakki karna

mzar bnana

yeh sab  kahan se aai hain 

agar tum ek mujadad ko manny waly ho to?

[خاکسار‎]

Atif Aleem:

 

Yah biddat nahi han, koi aik topic chose karlo. Us par baat karlata han.

 

our yaad rahay, har biddat buri nahi hoti, Biddat ki bi iqsam han.

 

My one question is due on you Atif Aleem:

 

1- Ab tum batao kay Bralvi likhna Shirk hay, kufr hay, biddat hay, Haram hay??? Kay is baat par toba karni hay?

 

Answer is required about the above question.

 

 

abdul razzaq:

 

 

Brother nothing is more important than religion. If someone is saying your faith(akida) is wrong. Then we must put our ears on that, if we are wrong, then we accept the right.

 

If he is wrong, then we must show him he/she is wrong.

[Atif Aleem]

Bralvi likhna bidat kufar aur shirk ni hy 

likan yeh lafz jis akidy ko zahi r karta hy

us ko manny waly

is lafz ky saya ky nichy pinpny waly loog  bidat shirk aur mazhab main lagviat ky murtakib hain

kabroon ko sajda karna

dunia main janti darwaza bnana aur us main se guzarna

mzaroon ko kaba ki shakal main tameer karna

apni marzi se din main tehreef karna

wo buzargan e din jin ki wafat ho chuki hy un se mantain man'na

un se madad manna

Allah ky siwa kisi ko mushkal kisha kehna

aur ahle sunnat ko mehz thory ikhtilaf ki khatar choor ky shia ko bhai kahna (jo keh ek 100@ alag firka hy)

yeh sab kaam inhio logoon main pay jaty hain

jo khod ko bralvi kehty hain

no doubt keh yahan kuch buhat achy bhi hain

jo haq ki baat manty hain

likan amomiat yahi karti hy

aur sunnat ky khifat imama bandhna

per us ko sunnat kehna

yeh sab wo batain hain jo is lafz ki pinah liny waly karty hain

aur haan jihad jesy mustakil fareezy ka inkaar

[خاکسار‎]

Jo tum na list di hay ab us par baat karta han. Umeed hay bhago gay nahi.

 

Note: Agar tumhan ghalat sabit kardia tu tum toba karo gay our Mara Akida ko khula dil day apnao gay our isi ki tableeg karo gay,  agar main ghalat sabit ho gaya tu main toba karun ga.

 

Manzoor hay? Yah nahi?

 

1- Tumhara butabik “kabroon ko sajda karna” yah bralvion ka akida hay. Asa hi hay?

[Atif Aleem]

Khaloos ky sath hdyt se bar ky jkoi nemat nahi hy

likan baat ko dalil par karna

ok

apni baat aur akidy ko wesa hi bian karna

jesy pehly apny akida maroor ky bian kia hy wesa ni karna

theek hy na

manzoor hy

[خاکسار‎]

You didn’t answered my question.

 

1- Tumhara butabik “kabroon ko sajda karna” yah bralvion ka akida hay. Asa hi hay?

 

Above is my unanswered question.

[abdul razzaq]

Yes you are right Religion is extreme priority for a Muslim, but proving Akeedah right or wrong is not a duty/compulsion for an ordinary Muslim. Khaksaar & Atif, If you are willing to make  corrections in the Akeedhaa's of people with a Positive attitude, you should have the authority of that. And that authority needs 08 or 12 years of Islamic Education from Madrassa. Have you the same authority? Have you spent such span of time there? If yes than I am sorry because you are ALIM and I do not have the right of making request to you to stop such type of debate on a forum which is not made for it.



Thanks,

Abdul.

[Atif Aleem]

un answered kesy jinab

jo aap ny pooch ahy

main ny usi ka jawab dia hy

aap ek baar per par lain

ya apny qUESTION REPEAT KAR DAIN

jo bhi loog mzaroon par jaty hain aur kabroon ko even zinda logoon ko sajda karty hain

wo sary bralvi hi haian

[خاکسار‎]

 

Question tu main na repeat kiya tha. You can see in the picture below.

 

Ab muabla kuch asa hay, App na jo alfaz istamal kiya han. Unko app na ab sabit karna hay. Chahay kisi bi mustanad bralvi Alim ki kitab say sabit karan, balkay acha rahay ga kay app Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Rahmatullah Alaha ki kisi bi kitab say apna alfaz ko sabit kardain.

 

App kay alfaz main highlight karta hun:

 

“kabroon ko sajda karna”

 

&

 

“jo bhi loog mzaroon par jaty hain aur kabroon ko even zinda logoon ko sajda karty hain

wo sary bralvi hi haian”

 

 

1- Ab sabit kya karna hay?

• Sabit yah karna hay kay yah jo akida hay qaboor ko our zinda logon ko sajda karna ka, wo  Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Rahmatullah Alaha na sikhaya/bataya hay?

 

•  Sabit yah karna hay kay yah jo akida hay qaboor ko our zinda logon ko sajda karna ka, wo Bralvi Ulma is ko bayan karta han?

[Atif Aleem]

maih kitab kion sabat karon

tum is baat ka inkaar karo keh isa nahi hy

kai loog kabroon par ni jaty

wahan sajdy ni karty

aur kai wo loog bhi bralvi ni hain

main tum ko reality dekah raha hon

bta raha hon

kia kabhi kisi deobandi ko ya whabi ko dekha hy kabar ko sajda karty hoy

per kion 

yeh sab bralvi hi kion karty hain?

[خاکسار‎]

 

Baat tu sabit karni paray gi. us kay bina tu koi chara kar nahi hay.

 

Apni baat ka saboot dana parta hay.

 

Yah tu Qanoon hay Jo Allah Ta’ala na hi hamain sikhla dia ha Quran Majeed kay zaria.

 

Kya bhool gay ho jab Musrik/Kafir kahta thay kay yah Quran Khudsakhta kitab hay. Allah Ta’ala na un say Daleel mangi, kay aik ayat hi lay ao.

 

 

Baghar sabit kiya tum chahay jo marzi thoptay jao hamaray sar par. Asa tu nahi na hota.

 

 

-------------------------- Now be Brave & Prove ------------------------------------

[Atif Aleem]

tum isy 100 admi dekh sakty ho

jo peroon ko kabroon ko sajda karty hain

aur sab  ky sab pakky bralvi hain

per aur kai dalil chahiy

[خاکسار‎]

 

1-Tum agar asay 100,000 admi bi lay ao tu is ka kya matlab hay?

 

2- Agar main tumhan 1,000 asi Musalman Aurton ka bata dun jo kalma parti han our Zina karna/ Apna Jisam bachna un ka pasha hay. Tu batao is ka kya matlab hay? Kay Zina Halal ho jay ga kyun kay log asa karta han???

 

3- Yah phir yah un ki jahalat hay???

 

4- Aik baat batao, Kay Qanoon Shariat kay hisab say hota hay yah logon kay karna kay hisab say?

 

5- Millions of people smoking karta han, kya smoking Halal our jaiz ho jati hay un kay karna say. Kya koi non-muslim kah sakta hay kay yah kam musalman karta hay is lia yah us kay deen/mazhab/akida ka hisa hay?

[Atif Aleem]

1-Tum agar asay 100,000 admi bi lay ao tu is ka kya matlab hay?

jo loog tum ko manty hain tum ko follow karty hain unhain samjana un ki tarbiat tumhara farz nahi hy kia?

yeh kaam sirf bralvi hi kion karty hain

koi deobandi ya whabi kion ni karta

is ka matlab hy tum ny unhain kuch lachak di hy na

deo bandi wahabi koi ulma jab membar e rasool par jata hy

wo cheekh cheekh ky kehta hy

mabood Allah

masjood Allah

Maqsood Allah

tum kion ni kahty

tumhary bary is jhalat ki sarparasti apni khamoshi se kion karty hain

kion keh unhain apny rizk ky band hony ka dar hy

unhain jo rotian milti hain

un ki din ky naam par jo iyashian lagi hain

wo khatam ho jain gi

agar sach bolain gy

agar hakikat bian kar dain gy

tum loog jaan booj kar apny duniavi mufadaat ky liy unhain yeh narmi dety ho

per kahty hain keh bralviat bekasoor hy

is main kahain ni likha

agar likah nahi hy to per azadi kion di ja rahi hy

 

 

2- Agar main tumhan 1,000 asi Musalman Aurton ka bata dun jo kalma parti han our Zina karna/ Apna Jisam bachna un ka pasha hay. Tu batao is ka kya matlab hay? Kay Zina Halal ho jay ga kyun kay log asa karta han???

amal aur akida main jo fark hota hy us ka tum ko nahi pta hy shaid

sajda akidy ki buniad par kai jata hy

aur jism farooshi amal ki buniad par

swal karny se pehly us ka jawaz dekh lina chahiy 

jazbati ho ky takreer ni karni chahiy

 

3- Yah phir yah un ki jahalat hay???

bralvi ki jhalat koon door kary ga

deobbandi aur whabi ki to wo baat ni sunta

kion keh usy feed karwa dia gia hy keh yeh to hain hi kafir

per yeh duty bralvi ulma ki hy na

aur bralvi ulma kion khamoosh hain

 

 

4- Aik baat batao, Kay Qanoon Shariat kay hisab say hota hay yah logon kay karna kay hisab say?

jo akaid banty hain wo shariat bnati hy

jo amaal hoty hain un ka zuma daar insaan khod hy

shriat ko akaid par napa jata hy 

amaal par nahi

sajda akaid ki tarjmani karta hy

amaal insaan ki zaat ki

akaid shriat ky tarjman hoty hain

amaal nahi

 

 

5- Millions of people smoking karta han, kya smoking Halal our jaiz ho jati hay un kay karna say. Kya koi non-muslim kah sakta hay kay yah kam musalman karta hay is lia yah us kay deen/mazhab/akida ka hisa hay?

 

is ka jawab bhi wahi hy jo oper de chuka hon

[خاکسار‎]

 

“jo loog tum ko manty hain tum ko follow karty hain unhain samjana un ki tarbiat tumhara farz nahi hy kia?”

 

is baat ka jawab tu tum na khud hi day dia hay, see “jo amaal hoty hain un ka zuma daar insaan khod hy” is baat main kuch bi dhaka chupa nahi hay kay sajda sirf Allah Ta’ala ki zaat Pak ko hay our kisi ko nahi, Ahadees say sabit hay Quran Pak say sabit hay.

Hazoor ()  na farmay: Agar sajda tazimi ki ijazat di jati kisi ko tu wo biwi ko hukam hota kay wo apna shohar ko sajda karay.(Not actual words)

 

JO log qabroon par ja kar sajda karta han wo bi sajda tazeemi karta han, sajda ibadat nahi karta. Sajda tazimi ki bi ijazat nahi hay. Wo un ki jahalat hay jo log karta han.

 

Kon ho ga jo yah samajta ho ga kay yah jis ki qabar hay wo Khuda hay yah wo khuda ka shareek hay, yah wo khuda ka bata hay???

 

 

i- Farishton na Hazrat Adam Alaha’Salam ko sajda kiya, wo sajda tazeemi thi koi mushrik nahi hoa.

ii- Hazrat Yousaf Alaha Salam kay Bhaion na Hazrat Yousaf Alaha Salam ko sajda kiya, koi mushrik nahi hoa.

 

Pata chala kay niyat ka faraq hota hay. Pahli umaton main sajda tazeemi ki ijazat thi. Ab nahi hay.

 

Waldan kay samna hath bandh kar khara ho gay, niyat adab ki hay tu is par sawab milay ga. Insan Namaz main bi Allah Ta’ala kya hazoor Hath bandh kar khara hota hay.

 

 

 

“yeh kaam sirf bralvi hi kion karty hain koi deobandi ya whabi kion ni karta”        &        “agar likah nahi hy to per azadi kion di ja rahi hy”

 

Is baat ko tum sari umar sabit nahi kar sako gay kay yah kam sirf bralvi hi karta han our Mazarat Aulia/Anbia kiram Alahasalam par sirf Ahl’Sunnat WalJammat say hi taluk rakhna walay jataty han.

Main tumhan sabit karta hun Deobandi/Ahl’Hadees bi jata han (Read Below everything with reference):

 

 

 

“is ka matlab hy tum ny unhain kuch lachak di hy na”    &    “tum kion ni kahty tumhary bary is jhalat ki sarparasti apni khamoshi se kion karty hain”

 

 yahan bi tumhara ana hi jawab mojood hay, har koi apna amal ka khud zimadar hay.

Thori si our wazahat kardon tumhara lia:

 

Hazrat Nooh Alaha’salam ki kom main jo log un kay sath thay wo bach gay, baki barbad ho gay. Un ka Nasbi bata bi barbad hoa. Wo apna amal ka khud zima dar tha, koi yah nahi kah sakta hay Hazrat Nooh Alaha’salam na usa lachak day rakhi thi.

 

Hazrat Salah Alaha’salam ki kom par azab aya. (Hazrat Salah Alah’salam bari’uz zima thay) Un ka kam tableeg karna tha.

 

Hazrat Mosa Alaha Salam na Firon ko Deen ki tableeg ki nahi mana, wo apna amal ka khud zima dar thahra.

 

Tum(Atif Aleem) Kis moun say Ahl’Sunnat ko bura kahta ho? Agar tu yah sajda karna ki talqeen Ahl’Sunnat kay ulma ni ki hay phir tu sabit karo. Warna tum logon kay amal ko kyun Ulma kiram par dalta ho???

 

 

 

“jo akaid banty hain wo shariat bnati hy

jo amaal hoty hain un ka zuma daar insaan khod hy

shriat ko akaid par napa jata hy

amaal par nahi

sajda akaid ki tarjmani karta hy

amaal insaan ki zaat ki

akaid shriat ky tarjman hoty hain

amaal nahi”

 

 

 Shariat wo hay jo Pyara Aqa Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa Salal’laho Alaha Wasalam na Allah Ta’ala kay hukam say ahkamat bayan farmay han.

 

Us par amal Kiya Pyara Aqa Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa Salal’laho Alaha Wasalam na our phir Sahaba Kiram RaziAllah Anha na.

 

Ab jo wasa hi amal kara ga us ka akida sahi hay, jo is say hat gaya wo ghalat.

 

Ab bato baki kya rah gaya hay? 

 

 

Agar abi bi koi masla baki hay tu sabit karo our jawab lay lo.

 

 

Jasa zina aik kam ka name hay wasa hi sajda bi aik kam karna ka name hay. Isa Amal kahta han, khana khana aik amal hay, chalna phirna aik amal hay. Har kam kay karna ko amal/action kaha jata hay 

 

From: Atif Aleem

Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:00 AM

To: coool_vu...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین

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[Atif Aleem]

geer Allah ko Sajda

aur

zana ki buniad ek hi hy?

in main se akeedy par mabni amal koon sa hy

aur bad-amli koon se hy?

Shaikh ul hind Moulana MAhmood ul hassan sab ki tafseer ka wo page scane copy ya snap ki shakal main send karo

hum loog aap ki in ibaraat par yakeen nahi rakhty hain

main ny seach kai hy mujy isi koi tafseer ni mili hy

jesa aap ky is copy past literature main bian ki gai hy

thx

[خاکسار‎]

Order tu yun day raha ho jasa tumhara aba g ka mulazam hun main.

 

jao khud hi dhond lo agar fikar hay apna akida darust karna ki.

 

Pyasa koun kay pas jata hay, kounan nahi chal kar pyasa kay pass ata.

 

Tumhara lia itna hi kafi hay kay tumhan complete references day dia han. Bazar main jao our books purchase kar kay dakh lo.

 

 

Sajda Akida par mabni hay tu batao Farishton ka kya akida tha? Ambi Kiram Alaha Salam ka kya akida guzra hay?

 

Mara buhat say sawalat thay mari email main, un main say kisi ka bi jawab tum na abi tak nahi diya hay.

 

 

From: Atif Aleem

Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:17 PM

To: coool_vu...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین

 

geer Allah ko Sajda

aur

zana ki buniad ek hi hy?

in main se akeedy par mabni amal koon sa hy

aur bad-amli koon se hy?

Shaikh ul hind Moulana MAhmood ul hassan sab ki tafseer ka wo page scane copy ya snap ki shakal main send karo

hum loog aap ki in ibaraat par yakeen nahi rakhty hain

main ny seach kai hy mujy isi koi tafseer ni mili hy

jesa aap ky is copy past literature main bian ki gai hy

thx

 

 

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:38 AM, خاکسار <muhamma...@live.com> wrote:

 

“jo loog tum ko manty hain tum ko follow karty hain unhain samjana un ki tarbiat tumhara farz nahi hy kia?”

 

is baat ka jawab tu tum na khud hi day dia hay, see “jo amaal hoty hain un ka zuma daar insaan khod hy” is baat main kuch bi dhaka chupa nahi hay kay sajda sirf Allah Ta’ala ki zaat Pak ko hay our kisi ko nahi, Ahadees say sabit hay Quran Pak say sabit hay.

Hazoor ()  na farmay: Agar sajda tazimi ki ijazat di jati kisi ko tu wo biwi ko hukam hota kay wo apna shohar ko sajda karay.(Not actual words)

 

JO log qabroon par ja kar sajda karta han wo bi sajda tazeemi karta han, sajda ibadat nahi karta. Sajda tazimi ki bi ijazat nahi hay. Wo un ki jahalat hay jo log karta han.

 

Kon ho ga jo yah samajta ho ga kay yah jis ki qabar hay wo Khuda hay yah wo khuda ka shareek hay, yah wo khuda ka bata hay???

 

 

i- Farishton na Hazrat Adam Alaha’Salam ko sajda kiya, wo sajda tazeemi thi koi mushrik nahi hoa.

ii- Hazrat Yousaf Alaha Salam kay Bhaion na Hazrat Yousaf Alaha Salam ko sajda kiya, koi mushrik nahi hoa.

 

Pata chala kay niyat ka faraq hota hay. Pahli umaton main sajda tazeemi ki ijazat thi. Ab nahi hay.

 

Waldan kay samna hath bandh kar khara ho gay, niyat adab ki hay tu is par sawab milay ga. Insan Namaz main bi Allah Ta’ala kya hazoor Hath bandh kar khara hota hay.

 

 

 

“yeh kaam sirf bralvi hi kion karty hain koi deobandi ya whabi kion ni karta”        &        “agar likah nahi hy to per azadi kion di ja rahi hy”

 

Is baat ko tum sari umar sabit nahi kar sako gay kay yah kam sirf bralvi hi karta han our Mazarat Aulia/Anbia kiram Alahasalam par sirf Ahl’Sunnat WalJammat say hi taluk rakhna walay jataty han.

Main tumhan sabit karta hun Deobandi/Ahl’Hadees bi jata han (Read Below everything with reference):

 

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[Atif Aleem]

lolz

matlab tum loog jo marzi akwas likhty raho

dosroon ka name ly ky

aur hum dhondty rahain

unhoon ny isa kuch ni likha

isi liy tum ko takleef di hy 

keh tum wo tafseer dekhao

jis main yeh likha hy

na keh kisi ullu ky pathy ka likha hoa galt jhoota aur namukamal literature

isi liy tum ko bola hy keh ab wo real page bhi dekha do jis se yeh sab makhoz hy

warna main dekh chuka

ab tum ny apny is fasaq ko prove karna hy

aur logoon ko btana hy

keh kis trah tum loog jhoot bolty ho 

dosroon par

ok

[خاکسار‎]

 

“matlab tum loog jo marzi akwas likhty raho”    &    “na keh kisi ullu ky pathy ka likha hoa galt jhoota aur namukamal literature”

 

Sab say pahla tu tum baat karna ki tameez sikho, tumhan pata hona chaiya kay aik alim deen kay bara main kasa alfaz istamal karna chahaiya.

 

Yaad rakho Iblees nay aik alim ki bayadbi ki our sari umar kay lia dutt’kara gaya.

 

 

“

aur hum dhondty rahain

unhoon ny isa kuch ni likha

isi liy tum ko takleef di hy

keh tum wo tafseer dekhao

jis main yeh likha hy

”

 

Agar tum na wo tafseer dakh lia hay tu wo page jis main Surah Faith Ki us ayah ka hashiya likha hay wo scan kar kay send kardo sab ko, hum jhota sabit ho jain gay our tum sacha. Ab apni baat par kaim rahna kay tum na wo tafseer dakh li hay.

 

Muja kat’an asi koi zarorat nahi hay kay main tumhara lia koi asa kam karun. jasa kay book purchase karkay scan karkay send karna.

 

 

“

warna main dekh chuka

ab tum ny apny is fasaq ko prove karna hy

aur logoon ko btana hy

keh kis trah tum loog jhoot bolty ho

dosroon par

”

 

Agar tum na dakh lia hay tu hamain bi dikha dia hota.

 

Warna tumhan tumhari tamam baton par jhota tu main sabit kar hi chuka hun saboot kay sath.

 

Ala’Hazrat ki tableeg par jo ilzam lagay tum na, bralvion par jo ilzam thay tum aik bi sabit nahi kar sakay.

 

khud tu kahta ho kay wo real page send karo. Jab tum na kaha tha kay yah kam bralvi karta han us waqat tu tum na 100 logon wali baat ki thi us waqat real page kahan tha tumhara?

 

Tumhari tamam baton/sawalat ka jawab main day chuka hun. hatdarmi ka koi ilaj nahi  hota. TOBA KARLO, acha raho gay.

 

 

 

 

[Atif Aleem]

main ny jitni bhi baat ki hy tameez se ki hy 

badtameezi tum ny shroo ki hy

itna lamba letrature past ni karo

just 'to the point'  baat karo

aur yeh btao

   koon hy

AUR YAHI BAAT HY JO MAIN 1ST COMMENT SE POOCH RAHA HON

PLZ DESCRIBE IT

THX

[خاکسار‎]

 

“

main ny jitni bhi baat ki hy tameez se ki hy ‘akwas’ & ‘ullu ky pathy’

”

 

Kya jab apna waldan say baat karta ho tab bi asa hi alfaz istamal karta ho?

 

Ulma Kiram ka darja buhat buland hay, Hadees Sharif main ata hay, (Ulma Nabion kay waris han)

 

 

 

“badtameezi tum ny shroo ki hy”

 

Abi tak tu main na koi badtamizi nahi ki, ki hay tu highlight kardo kay yah badtamizi hay. Main apologize karlon ga. Agar nahi sabit kar sakta tu tum na mujh par buhtan laga hay, tumhan toba karni chahiya.

 

 

 

“itna lamba letrature past ni karo”

 

Yah kam bi tumhari saholat kay lia hi kiya tha, tumhara dawa tha kay Deobandi/ahl’hadees Mazarat Aulia par nahi jatay, yah us baat ka mukamal jawab tha tumhara lia.

 

 

“just 'to the point' baat karo”

 

Sari raat ronday ray marya koi vi nai.

 

Yah tu wo baat hay jo main na apni start ki emails main ki thi, tumhan points bana kar bata dia tha kay asa baat karo, sawalat ko alahda line main likho, numbering bi kardo, tumhan pora jawabat diay jain gay, our main na tu khud tumhari aik aik line copy paste karkay us ka jawabat dia han.

 

AGar phir bi kaho main na mano tu is baat ka mara pass tu koi ilaj nahi hay, ghalat kah raha hun tu sabit karo.  Tumhari saholat kay lia points bana kar bi tumhan as sample send kardia han.

 

 

“aur yeh btao”    & “ koon hy AUR YAHI BAAT HY JO MAIN 1ST COMMENT SE POOCH RAHA HON ”

 

Ab yah tu tumhara pass koi our baat bachi nahi hay tu phir say usi baat par wapis a gay ho.

 

yah un kay rutba kay hisab say un kay lia alkabat han, un kay kam par, un ki research par, un kay ilam kay hawalay say. For example: Shaikh ul hind Moulana MAhmood ul hassan sab

 

 

Yah raha tumhara dawa tumhari 1st email say, is par kab tak roshni dalo gay???

 

tum kab toba kar rahy ho
galt akaid, bidaat aur gumrahi se

 

Agar nahi tu yaad rakho, kuch manzoor kiya tha tumna. Bralwion wala akida bi apnao gay our

 

 

 

 

Koi sawal rah gaya hay tu  bata do!

 

 

 

 

From: Atif Aleem

Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:52 PM

To: coool_vu...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین

main ny jitni bhi baat ki hy tameez se ki hy

badtameezi tum ny shroo ki hy

itna lamba letrature past ni karo

just 'to the point'  baat karo

aur yeh btao

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[Atif Aleem]

mujy abhi tak mery pehly swal ka jawab nahi mila

reh gia waki baat to abhi bihat door hy

Immam koon hota hy?

aur sirf islam ki khidmat aur research par kisi ko immam kaha jata hy?

agar kisi jaga Immam Abbu Hanifa main aur Ahmad Raza main ikhliaf aa jay to tum kis ko follow karty ho

kai tum waki Ahl e Sunnat ho
ya per sirf raza khani ho?

yeh pehlka swal tha

abhi tak clear ni hoa

mujy lamba sara reply ni

2 took jawab chahiy

plz

[خاکسار‎]

 

“

mujy abhi tak mery pehly swal ka jawab nahi mila

”

 

Tumhan kaha hay kay jis sawal ka jawab na mila ho usa ko copy paste kar kay phir say likh dia karo, pasay nahi lagta is kam main.

 

 

 

“Immam koon hota hy?

aur sirf islam ki khidmat aur research par kisi ko immam kaha jata hy?”

 

i- Immam ka lafz isatamal karna kya lia koi specific space nahi hay, jasa kay Nabi, Sahabi, (Alaha Salam/ RaziAllah Anha). Agar hay tu tum bata do muja. Daleel kay sath.

ii- Han kaha ja sakta hay, yah kahna walay ki marzi hay wo kisi imam kahta hay our wo is kabil bi hay yah kay nahi.

 

Ab tum yah bato kay is baat par toba karni hay? Our asal mazmoon say farar kyun ho raha ho?

 

“agar kisi jaga Immam Abbu Hanifa main aur Ahmad Raza main ikhliaf aa jay to tum kis ko follow karty ho”

 

Is baat main tu koi masla hi nahi hya. Agar kahin Immam Azam Abu Hanifa RaziAllah Anha our Immam Ahmad Raza Khan RahamTullah A'laha kay darmayan Ikhtalaf ho tu Imam Azam ki baat mani jay gi.

 

Our  Imam Azam ka farman hay kay jab mari baat kay khilaf kisi ko Hadees Pak mil hay tu wo mari baat ko chor day our Hadees Shareef par amal karay.(not actual words, but something like that.)

 

 

“kai tum waki Ahl e Sunnat ho
ya per sirf raza khani ho?”

 

is baat ka fasla karna ka haq tumhan kisi na nahi dia, tum us baat ki taraf ao jo tumhara dawa hay. Bongian na maro.

 

 

“yeh pehlka swal tha

abhi tak clear ni hoa

mujy lamba sara reply ni

2 took jawab chahiy”

 

Is baat ko tu clear tab karo agar koi shirk, kufr, biddat ka masla hay. Warna baat agay barhao our right left main time waste na karo.

 

Agar abi bi mara jawab 2 took nahi hay tu choices tum day dia karo, agar koi valid hoa tumhari choices main tu answer main select karlon ga.

 

 

Mara sawalat ka session abi start hona hay. Yaad rahay.

[Atif Aleem]

Nmaz main aap jis ko follow karty hain wo nmaz ka imaam hota hy

aur wo bhi ek hi hota hy

isi trah aap shriat main jis ki din ki tashreeh ko follow karty hain wo shriat ka immam hota hy

aur wo bhi ek hi hota hy

jis ko aap ko follow karty hain

aur Ahl e Sunnat Wal Jammat ky main sirf 4 immam hain 

un ky ilawa koi ni hy

aur Ahl e Sunnat sirf 4 imammon ko ko manty hain aur un ki main se kisi ek ko shriat ky mamlaat main follow  karty hain

ab jo admi kisi 5th imaam ko manta hy

to Ahle Sunnat Wal Jammat se kharaj hy

aur wo koi 5th cheez hy

jis trah keh aap hain ko keh kisi 5th immam ko follow karty hain 

baat ko mantakianjaam tak ly jany ky liy thory hosly ki zaroorat hoti hy

ini cheeti na pao

aur itni jaldi fasly na sunao

abhi tak tum apny taraf main hi jhooty ho

aur wo hi nahi karwa saky

aur fasly ki itni jaldi par gai

Shirk, bidat aur kufar tak bhi baat chali jay gi

aur wo bhi main tum ko bta doon ga

aur ahadees se bhi sabat kar doon ga keh tum jo karty ho wo kia hy

Note:  tum ny Shiekh ul Hind Mehmood UL Hasaan ki wo tafseer dekhani thi

jis ka hawala tum ny oper dia hy

wo bhi zra snap ya imag ki surat main yahan past kar do

main bhi dekh sakoon keh 

"Sirf tuj (Allah) hi se madad mangty hain " ki madd main makhlooq se kesy madad mangi ja sakti hy

ab wo tafseer ka page sath ly kar hi wapas aana

:-)

[خاکسار‎]

 

Tumhari bay basi dakh kar tars a raha hay tumhari halat par.

 

 

Ab tak tum na jitni bi batan ki han sab apni taraf say apna comments, apna khayalat ka izhar kiya hay.

 

Koi baat daleel say bi karo, is kay lia kisi sahib ilam insan ka sath pakro, phir baat karna. Deen Islam main Baghar daleel kay nahi mani jati.

 

Our Daleel milti hay Quran, Sunnat, Shahbat Kiram ka amal.  Our Ulma Deen kay ilam say.

 

1- Koi bi daleel tu pash karo kay “Imam” likhna yah kahna Ahl’Sunnat say kharij kardata hay!!!

 

Chalo main tumhan thora sa bata’ta hun, Jasa kay Surah Bakara Kay Akhir main hay,

 

 

 

Quran Pak main tu Allah Ta’ala farmat hay sirf main hi tumhara Mola hun.

 

2- Phir yah tumhara Molvi hazrat kis khushi main apna name kay sath Molana lagata han????

3- Kuch asa hi Quran Pak main aik our jagah Allah Ta’ala na farmaya kay yah Quran hum na nazil kya our hum hi iskay hafiz han(not actual words of translation), Phir yah tumhara jo bi hifz karlay usay Hafiz kyun kahta han??? Is say kuch nahi hota. Sara shirk/biddat/kuffar sirf Imam likhna/kahna say hi ata hay yaad tumhan???

 

 

4- “tum ny Shiekh ul Hind Mehmood UL Hasaan ki wo tafseer dekhani thi”

 

Main na tumhan kyun kar dikhani thi wo tafseer??? Main na hawala dana tha so day dia, ab market main jao wahan say dakh lo. Apna Iman bachana chahta ho tu himat karo. Warna aram say ghar main batho our enjoy karo jo zindagi baki hay.

 

I told you before, I am not your servent. Do it by self.

[Atif Aleem]

muj par tras khana chorain

aur asal baat ki traf tawaja dain jinab

1:- ab aap ko mola aur molana ky fark ka bhi nahi pta?

2:- main ny poocha hy keh Ahl e Sunnat wal jamat main 4 immam hain

yeh (5)panchwaan ka fika ka immam kahan se aaya

3:- Immam aur us ki zuma darian define kar dain

yakinan har kisi ko immam nahi kaha ja sakta koi to khobi ho gi na jis ki buniad par kisi ko immam mana jay 

aur jis ko immam mana jay 

per us ky sath us ki iktida karny waloon ka kia salook hota hy

wo bhi define kar dain 

4:- Shaiekh ul hind Jinab Mahmood ul hassan RA ki tafseer wala wo page yahan geer Allah se mangna jaiz btaya hy wo bhi dekhain kion keh mujy wesi koi tafseer ni mili hy

aur ab us hwaly ko prove bhi aap ny karna hy

aap sirf ilzamat lagany waly hain 

un ko prove ni karty 

per kahty ho dalil se baat karo

tum apny boly ka ab evidence do

[Atif Aleem]

ek aur guzarash hy 

yeh behs din par ho rahi hy 

is main yeh emoticon hahahah hohohoho aur yeh sab jokaroon waly kaam ni karain 

zra sa serias ho ky baat karain 

shukria

[خاکسار‎]

Gift for you.  

 

 

 

“aur asal baat ki traf tawaja dain jinab”

 

Wo Asal baat bi bata hi do konsi hay?

 

 

 

“1:- ab aap ko mola aur molana ky fark ka bhi nahi pta?”

 

mola ka zikar kahan say a gaya. Baat Molana ki main na ki hay.

 

 

“2:- main ny poocha hy keh Ahl e Sunnat wal jamat main 4 immam hain

yeh (5)panchwaan ka fika ka immam kahan se aaya”

 

i- Sabit karo kay Ahl’Sunnat kay 5 Imam han???

 

ii- Agar tum Ala Hazrat ko Imam likhna say unhan 4 Aima Kiram main shamil karta ho tu Molana Tariq Jamil ko tu Khuda ka sharik thahrata ho gay? Kya asa hi hay??? Yah Molona kahan say aya???

 

iii- Kya kabi Molana Tariq Jameel nay is ki tardeed ki ho yah mana kiya ho??? Agar Kiya hay tu Saboot pash karo???

 

 

“3:- Immam aur us ki zuma darian define kar dain

yakinan har kisi ko immam nahi kaha ja sakta koi to khobi ho gi na jis ki buniad par kisi ko immam mana jay

aur jis ko immam mana jay

per us ky sath us ki iktida karny waloon ka kia salook hota hy

wo bhi define kar dain ”

 

defintions dana mara kam nahi hay. Yahan tum na muja Toba kay lia invite kiya hay. Wo sabit karo.

 

Imam kisi ko bi kaha ja sakta hay. Lakhon imam han, Imam kahan han pashwa ko, rah’numa ko.

 

Agar is baat par toba karni hay tu sabit karodo.

 

 

“4:- Shaiekh ul hind Jinab Mahmood ul hassan RA ki tafseer wala wo page yahan geer Allah se mangna jaiz btaya hy wo bhi dekhain kion keh mujy wesi koi tafseer ni mili hy”

 

Na milna tumhari kahili ko zahir karta hay. Kisi alim say rabta karo, mil jay gi. Kya tumhara shakh ul mind is kabil bi nahi thay kay aik tafseer hi likhta? Yah tu tum apna hi shakh ki insult kar raha ho.

 

 

 

“ek aur guzarash hy

yeh behs din par ho rahi hy

is main yeh emoticon hahahah hohohoho aur yeh sab jokaroon waly kaam ni karain

zra sa serias ho ky baat karain

shukria”

 

 

Yah gharat tab kahan thi jan lolz likha tha??? Emoticons tu maray jazbat ka izhar karta han our wo mana nahi han.

 

[Atif Aleem]

jis baat par is wakat tak behs ho rahi hy us ki aap ko definations ka nahi pta to per kai kaha ja sakta hy

per to akaid par tum se baat karna hi fazool hy

tum kai chahty ho akaid ki baat na ki jay 

per kai kia jay

toba ki baat hy to wo to tumhary akaid ki bina par hi hy

tum kahty ho mzar bnana jaiz hy

kabar par azaan ki hak main dalail dety ho

kia yeh bidaat nahi hain

aur tum ko jab bhi koi hawala dia jata hy  tio kehty ho hum ni karty hain

kabroon par sajdy karny waly khod ko sunni hi kionkehty hain 

wahan koi deobandi ya whabi yeh kaam kion nahi karta

mujy btao pak o hind main jitny bhi fitny peda hoy hain un ko fuel kis firky ni provide kai hy

wo firka kisi khod sakhta Immam mehdi ka ho ya

nmaz ki hasiat se inkaar karny waloon ga

aur wo loog jo yeh kaam karty hain un ko fuel koon provide karta hy 

tumhary ulma ya koi aur?

wo sab loog to jahil hain jo wo sab karty hain 

is is bary main aap ka kai khyal hy?

is bary main Quran kai kahta hy

aur yeh kis ko khosh karny ko ho traha hy

[خاکسار‎]

Tumhari is email main na koi sar hay na koi par. Asa mahsoos ho raha hay jasa sota main likhi gai hay yah email....

 

 

Hosh main aoo, bokhlao nahi abi say.

 

 

Ab Imam our MOLANA ko bhool gay ho?

 

 

“

jis baat par is wakat tak behs ho rahi hy us ki aap ko definations ka nahi pta to per kai kaha ja sakta hy

”

 

 

Tu tum kis marz ki dawa ho? Tumhara dawa tha kay mara(khaksar) ka akida ghalat hay, our muja apna akiday say toba karni chahiya. Ab bato bi kay kis baat say toba karon.

Agar main definitions nahi janta tu tum muja batao, Quran-o-Sunnat say. Ulma Ahl’Sunnat ki tashreehat say.

 

Tum koi Aima Arba main say tu ho nahi kay tumhari baat par ankh band karkay amal kiya jay our man lia jay. Agar tumhara asa koi dawa hay tu wo bi bata do.

 

 

 

“per to akaid par tum se baat karna hi fazool hy

tum kai chahty ho akaid ki baat na ki jay

per kai kia jay”

 

Farar hona ka purana our farsoda tarika.       

 

Escaping

 

 

“toba ki baat hy to wo to tumhary akaid ki bina par hi hy

tum kahty ho mzar bnana jaiz hy

kabar par azaan ki hak main dalail dety ho

kia yeh bidaat nahi hain

aur tum ko jab bhi koi hawala dia jata hy tio kehty ho hum ni karty hain”

 

Jo kam hum karta han wo sabit bi karta han our jo nahi karta wo nahi karta. Mazarat han tu daleel bi hay, Azan hay tu saboot bi hay our daleel bi hay.

 

Tumharay sath Qabron par sajday ki baat shuru ki thi, jab kuch bi tumhara hath na aya tu bajay is kay kay tum TOBA karta, phir say shuru say shuru kardia   Imam kyun lagataho. Ab samaj ai kyun lagata han IMAM???

 

 

 

“kabroon par sajdy karny waly khod ko sunni hi kionkehty hain

wahan koi deobandi ya whabi yeh kaam kion nahi karta”

 

Yah tum un say pocho jo karta han. Tumhan Ala hazrat ka Fatwa bi dikha dia, Anbia Kiram kay Qisa bi bata dia. Ab bi isi baat ka zikar karo gay tu hatdarmi hay tumhari. Bad’badkht na bano. Toba karo.

 

Firon apna app ko sajda karwata tha, Mosa Alaha Salam ko tableeg kay lia bhaja gaya. Muja batao is bara main sawal kis say ho ga? Mosa Alaha Salam say yah phir Firon say?

 

 

 

“mujy btao pak o hind main jitny bhi fitny peda hoy hain un ko fuel kis firky ni provide kai hy

wo firka kisi khod sakhta Immam mehdi ka ho ya

nmaz ki hasiat se inkaar karny waloon ga

aur wo loog jo yeh kaam karty hain un ko fuel koon provide karta hy

tumhary ulma ya koi aur?”

 

Yah tu tumhari khodsakhta baat hay, is baat ka maray akiday sa koi taluk nahi, wo batao jo maray akida main ghalat hay.     Khisyani Bili Khamba nocha. Tars hi ay ga ab our tu kuch kar nahi saktay tumharay lia.

 

 

 

“wo sab loog to jahil hain jo wo sab karty hain

is is bary main aap ka kai khyal hy?

is bary main Quran kai kahta hy

aur yeh kis ko khosh karny ko ho traha hy”

 

Is bara main jo kahna hay hamara wo in videos main dakh lo. Tumhari aik our phool jhari.

 

Mufti Muneeb ur Rehman Sahab and Mufti Rafeeq ul Hasani EXPOSE TAHIR UL QADRI

 

Peer Syed Irfan Shah Refutes Dr Tahir ul Qadri Openly on TV

 

Kaya Ye Dr Tahir Ul Qadri Ka Kufr Nahe Hai By Munazir e Islam Mufti Muhammad Hanif Qureshi

 

 

Hamari na sahi tu apna Shakh Al Hind ki hi manlo kambakht.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ab tawilan na dana, sharam say doob marna koi our ilzam lagana say pahlay.

[Atif Aleem]

is sari baat main aur is baat main jo real hy kitna fark hy ?

i think buhat ziada diff hy

likan abhi baat yahan tak to punchi hi nahi thi

keh msail ki traf aaty

aabhi to base ki baat chal rahi thi

aap ko shaid buhat jaldi hy msail main gusny ki

shaid koi ratta lgaya hoa hy

abhi tak aap ki base clear ni ho pai

shaid aap loog us main jaan booj kar abhaam rakhna chahty ho

is liy to the point jawab nahi dety

ya per apny mokaf se badal jaty ho

baat yeh hy keh 

aap khod ko ahl e sunnat kahty hain 

matlab Ahl e sunnat wal jmaat hanfi bralvi

Ahl e Sunnat Waljmaat ky nichy 4 immam hain 

un charoo main kisi ek ki mukamal takleed karna Ahl e sunnat waljmaat hy

likan tum loog Ahmad raza ko bhi immam kahty ho

aur un ki bhi takleed karty ho

jabkeh wo Ahle Sunnat ky immam nahi hain

per tum hanfi hony ka dawa karty ho

aur jab main ny poocha keh bralvi kia hy

to jawab dia gia keh immam abbu hanifa RA

Immam Azam Abbu hanifa RA ko manny ky liy to hanfi hona kafi tha

aur bralvi kis trah un se mansoob kai gia?

mujy sirf is baat ka jawab do keh Bralviat kia hy?

aur agar bralviat Immam Azam Abu Hnifa RA ko manna hy to per Hanfiat kai hy?
aur lafz bralvi ko kis tra Immam e Azam Abbu hanifa se mansoob kia gia hy?

[خاکسار‎]

First of all tum na thread ko break kar kay yah sabit kardia hay kay tum jhotay ho our ab apna ap ko bachaay kay lia apna jhoot chupanay kay lia Previous history ko destroy kardia hay our aik new email create ki hay. Tumhari makari ka andaza tumharay isi fal say ho jata hay.

 

In Tilon main Tal nahi hay.

 

“i think buhat ziada diff hy”

 

 

Yah tu ab tum jhotay parta ho tu is lia asa drama kar rahay ho.     Aik aik harf dakh lo. Bilkul same hay.

 

Tumhari thinking ka achar dalna hay??? Tumhari thinking tu hay hi –ve sari ki sari.

 

Tumhan tumhari akabiron ki apni likhi hoi scanned ibarat dikha di hay ab bi agar tumhan koi farak nahi parta hay tu tum kisi our ki nahi apnay nafs ki parwi karnay walay ho.

 

Our jo apny nafs ki parwi kartay han wo yakinan khasaray main han, dunya main bi our akhrat main bi.

 

 

1- Pahlay tum yah bata do kay jo Molvi Mahmood Ul Hassan Sahab Deobandi na likha hay usa manta ho yah nahi???

 

2- Our main na tumhan jo hawala dia tha wo sahi tha yah ghalat?

 

3-

 

“likan abhi baat yahan tak to punchi hi nahi thi

keh msail ki traf aaty

aabhi to base ki baat chal rahi thi

aap ko shaid buhat jaldi hy msail main gusny ki

shaid koi ratta lgaya hoa hy”

 

 

 

Yah list tum na hi send ki thi, our main na bi tumhan isi ka jawab dia hay abi tak. Mara nahi tumhara hi decided tha topic.     

ANGOR KHATAY HAN.

Ab moun ki pari apni hi kitab say tu chal paray A-for Apple our B- for Ball kay lia. Lakin mara waqat itna falto nahi hay jo tumharay sath sar khapata rahon our tum kabi idhar bhago our kabi udhar.

 

 

“abhi tak aap ki base clear ni ho pai

shaid aap loog us main jaan booj kar abhaam rakhna chahty ho

is liy to the point jawab nahi dety

ya per apny mokaf se badal jaty ho”

 

 

Kasay jahil admi ho bi tum, tumhan tu main na point bana kar bi dana ko kaha hay takay tumhan yah na lagay kay to the point jawab nahi mila.

 

ULTA CHOR QOTWAL ko DANTA

 

Main na tum say koi sabak nahi parhnay, wo baat kyun nahi kartay jo shirk our biddat hay. TUmhan last chance day raha hun. mazeed time nahi tumharay sath waste kar sakta.

 

Agar tumhari next email main wo baat na ai jis ka tum na dawa kiya tha, tu is ka matlab hay tum dawa main bi jhoota thay our ab RUJU karnay say darta ho is lia pichay say pichay jana chahta ho.

 

 

“baat yeh hy keh

aap khod ko ahl e sunnat kahty hain

matlab Ahl e sunnat wal jmaat hanfi bralvi

Ahl e Sunnat Waljmaat ky nichy 4 immam hain

un charoo main kisi ek ki mukamal takleed karna Ahl e sunnat waljmaat hy

likan tum loog Ahmad raza ko bhi immam kahty ho

aur un ki bhi takleed karty ho

jabkeh wo Ahle Sunnat ky immam nahi hain”

 

 

Sahaba Kiram Tamam Imam han, our Sirf Imam nahi, 4 Aima Deen kay bi IMAM han. Ab lagao koi fatwa kya lagata ho kay Imam tu sirf 4 hi han.

 

 

 

‘likan tum loog Ahmad raza ko bhi immam kahty ho’

 

Apni is baat ka saboot pash karo, baki baat phir karan gay.

 

Our agar saboot nahi day sakay tu tum jhootay ho, jasa kay tum pahlay bi jhoot boltay ay ho.

 

i-    Sajda karay koi our tum lagao us par tag bralvion ka. Phir tum kaho kay tumhari(Atif Aleem) base buhat achi hay. Kya khoob kaha ay. Isay kahtay han “Khisyani bili khamba nochay”.

 

Lagao zoor kitna hay tum main, ab sabit karna. Tumhari scanned book say sabit kiya hay tumharay Akibiron kay akiday ko.   Hatdarmi ki intaha hay, bajay is kay kay sharam say doob martay. nahi, agay kahin our pohach gay our kaha, pahlay base clear karo.    

 

Apni email ka jaiza lalo babo. Tumhari baton kay points bana kar reply kiya han main na. Our tum na baat shuru kahin say ki our phir wapis pohanch gay ho.

 

 

 

From: Atif Aleem

Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:22 PM

To: coool_vu...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: ::::|| VU ||:::: توبہ - بصرہ کی فاحشہ - حکایات الصالحین

is sari baat main aur is baat main jo real hy kitna fark hy ?

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[Atif Aleem]

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:16 AM, خاکسار <muhamma...@live.com> wrote:

First of all tum na thread ko break kar kay yah sabit kardia hay kay tum jhotay ho our ab apna ap ko bachaay kay lia apna jhoot chupanay kay lia Previous history ko destroy kardia hay our aik new email create ki hay. Tumhari makari ka andaza tumharay isi fal say ho jata hay.

 

Khakchan sab main ny thread sirf is liy break kia hy keh har mail ky sath sara deta trevl karta hy aur mail buhat heavy ho jati hy

warna pichli mails har kisi ky pass hain jo interested hy aur jo mail ky reply dekhta hy

 

In Tilon main Tal nahi hay.

Tiloon main tail nikalny ki buhat jaldi hy kher hy na?

ratta hoy masail bool rahy hain kai? 

 

“i think buhat ziada diff hy”

 

 

Yah tu ab tum jhotay parta ho tu is lia asa drama kar rahay ho.     Aik aik harf dakh lo. Bilkul same hay.

 

yeh sab us ka lafz by lafz same hy?????

sharm tum ko magar ni aati 

yeh tashreesh dekho aur oper apny commnt dekho

aur sharm karo

agar aay to 

 

Tumhari thinking ka achar dalna hay??? Tumhari thinking tu hay hi –ve sari ki sari.

 

Tumhan tumhari akabiron ki apni likhi hoi scanned ibarat dikha di hay ab bi agar tumhan koi farak nahi parta hay tu tum kisi our ki nahi apnay nafs ki parwi karnay walay ho.

 

Our jo apny nafs ki parwi kartay han wo yakinan khasaray main han, dunya main bi our akhrat main bi.

 

 

1- Pahlay tum yah bata do kay jo Molvi Mahmood Ul Hassan Sahab Deobandi na likha hay usa manta ho yah nahi???

oper bta chuka hoon dekh lo

dmag bhi instimaal kar lina

keh wo sirf USA se dollar liny ky liy use karty ho taliban kyu khilaf jaloos nikalny ky liy

 

 

2- Our main na tumhan jo hawala dia tha wo sahi tha yah ghalat?

 

tumhara sara metrial falt hy

aur aopny opaass se buihat kuch add kia hy

aur jhoot bola hy

jesy keh bolty ho 

jesy tum apny akaid par ab bhi bool rahy ho

 

3-

 

“likan abhi baat yahan tak to punchi hi nahi thi

keh msail ki traf aaty

aabhi to base ki baat chal rahi thi

aap ko shaid buhat jaldi hy msail main gusny ki

shaid koi ratta lgaya hoa hy”

 

 

is ibarat se kia sabat hoa?

keh brlviat kai hy? (is ka jawab do agar tumhary pass nahi hy to apny kisi bary se pooch loo)

 

 

Yah list tum na hi send ki thi, our main na bi tumhan isi ka jawab dia hay abi tak. Mara nahi tumhara hi decided tha topic.     

ANGOR KHATAY HAN.

waki angoor khatty hain 

tum se jo baat poochi hy us ka jawab nahi dia

baki takreer kafi ki hy

ratti rtai takreer

per bhi angoor khatty hain

 

Ab moun ki pari apni hi kitab say tu chal paray A-for Apple our B- for Ball kay lia. Lakin mara waqat itna falto nahi hay jo tumharay sath sar khapata rahon our tum kabi idhar bhago our kabi udhar.

 

tum kia mnuh ki maro gi

jis ko akaid ki alf bey  nahi aati hy

jis ko apny akidy ki buniad ka nahi pta hy

jis ko yeh nahi maloom keh swaal ka jawab dia jata hy

takreer ni ki jati hy

aur tany aur tanz nahi kai jata 

yeh insaanoon ka baat karny ka andaaz nahi hy

 

 

 

“abhi tak aap ki base clear ni ho pai

shaid aap loog us main jaan booj kar abhaam rakhna chahty ho

is liy to the point jawab nahi dety

ya per apny mokaf se badal jaty ho”

 

 

Kasay jahil admi ho bi tum, tumhan tu main na point bana kar bi dana ko kaha hay takay tumhan yah na lagay kay to the point jawab nahi mila.

 

likan kisi ek point main kisi swal ka jawab nahi tha

haan kuch ratti rtai batain thain aur basssssssss

 

ULTA CHOR QOTWAL ko DANTA

jab kotwali ka dawa karny waly ky paly kuch na ho to per choor dant hi dety hain 

likan yahan choor nahi kotwal ka bara betha hy

 

 

Main na tum say koi sabak nahi parhnay, wo baat kyun nahi kartay jo shirk our biddat hay. TUmhan last chance day raha hun. mazeed time nahi tumharay sath waste kar sakta.

tum ko sabk parhana bhi nahi hy

kion keh tum jan booj ky jahil bany hoy ho

aur tum se cghance manga kis ny hy

tum mujy mery swal ka jawab do

jhoot ka shara na loo

Bralviat ko hanfiat kehny waly jahil

tum ko yeh bhi nahi pta keh hafiat ka bralviat se door ka bhi talak nahi hy

 

 

Agar tumhari next email main wo baat na ai jis ka tum na dawa kiya tha, tu is ka matlab hay tum dawa main bi jhoota thay our ab RUJU karnay say darta ho is lia pichay say pichay jana chahta ho.

 

tum khod apny har davy main jhoot bolty ho

pehly apny akaid ki biniad samj ky aao 

per muj se baat karna

samjy na

 

“baat yeh hy keh

aap khod ko ahl e sunnat kahty hain

matlab Ahl e sunnat wal jmaat hanfi bralvi

Ahl e Sunnat Waljmaat ky nichy 4 immam hain

un charoo main kisi ek ki mukamal takleed karna Ahl e sunnat waljmaat hy

likan tum loog Ahmad raza ko bhi immam kahty ho

aur un ki bhi takleed karty ho

jabkeh wo Ahle Sunnat ky immam nahi hain”

 

 

Sahaba Kiram Tamam Imam han, our Sirf Imam nahi, 4 Aima Deen kay bi IMAM han. Ab lagao koi fatwa kya lagata ho kay Imam tu sirf 4 hi han.

 

 oo jahil insaaan

Ahle Sunnat se murad Rasool Allah SAWW ki zaat e Akdas hy

aur waljmaat se muraad Sahaba karam ki pak jmaat hy 

us ky bad hanfiat hy shafiat hy hambliat hy malkiat hy

pehly sahaba ko mana jata hy

per immamoon ko

aur Ahle Sunnat Waljmaat  ky bad immam ki bari aati hy

ratty rtay raap ilapny waly Raza Khani subah uth ky mnuh wash kia karo 

shaid chehry ki ankh ky sath akal ki bhi ankh khul jay

 

 

‘likan tum loog Ahmad raza ko bhi immam kahty ho’

 

Apni is baat ka saboot pash karo, baki baat phir karan gay.

 

Our agar saboot nahi day sakay tu tum jhootay ho, jasa kay tum pahlay bi jhoot boltay ay ho.

 

i-    Sajda karay koi our tum lagao us par tag bralvion ka. Phir tum kaho kay tumhari(Atif Aleem) base buhat achi hay. Kya khoob kaha ay. Isay kahtay han “Khisyani bili khamba nochay”.

 

Lagao zoor kitna hay tum main, ab sabit karna. Tumhari scanned book say sabit kiya hay tumharay Akibiron kay akiday ko.   Hatdarmi ki intaha hay, bajay is kay kay sharam say doob martay. nahi, agay kahin our pohach gay our kaha, pahlay base clear karo.    

 

Apni email ka jaiza lalo babo. Tumhari baton kay points bana kar reply kiya han main na. Our tum na baat shuru kahin say ki our phir wapis pohanch gay ho.

 

 

han ji jinab yeh likha hy aap ny Immam dekh lia na

keh tum loog Ahmad raza ko Immam kahty ho

ab aur kuj??????

ab apni hat dharmi se mafi mango

apni buniad ko theek karo

kion yeh din ka mamla hy

kisi ko agar tum lafzoon ki chaloon se maat de bhi do gy to kai hasil ho ga

kuch nahi

kion keh Allah ky samny yeh sab chalain nakaam ho jani hain

Allah hum sab ko hdyt de, Amin 

[Atif Aleem]

bara Moulana Moulana cheekh rahy thy 

ab is moulana ki tareef bhi kar dena

agar time mily to?

kion keh oper tum ny apni mail main Ahmad raza Khan ko Moulana likah hy

aur sath main Immam bhi likha hy

aur sath main pta nahi kia kia likha hy

is ko bhi wazih kar dena

[خاکسار‎]

Apnay sawalat aik sath ikathay karo our unhan order main likho.

 

Jin sawalat kay jawabat main pahlay day chuka hun un ko chor kar.

[Atif Aleem]

1:- tum ny kisi swal ka jawab nahi dia mera ek hi swal hy keh Bralviat kia hy?

aur abhi tak mujy us ka jawab nahi mila

baki sary jawabaat hain 

baki swalon se jo swal nikly hain un main   

2:- Ahmad Raza Khan koon hy aur Immam kion likha jata hy?

3:- pichly ek hafty se Moulana Moulana ki ratt lgai thi ab tum ny Ahmad Raza ko Moulana likha hy wo kion kar likha hy?

ratta aur copy past mowad ni chahiy

to the point jawab chahiy