Ferrari Dino Used
Kathleen Denson
Very rare 1972 Dino, complete except for engine & trans. I can give contact info of people selling all engine and body parts. Has rust on bottom from sitting. The rust is no worse than the thousands of rusted Camaros and Mustangs that people restore every year. Comes with a bill of sale because cars dont have titles in New York before 1973. Rolls and steers easily up onto your trailer. Overall a very rare and elite car.
Except there is a strong aftermarket for Camaro and Mustang parts, and most of these projects come with an engine and transmission. The editor of the Hagerty Drivers Club magazine bought one of these and has spent a substantial amount of money just getting the engine restored.
I dont want to get kicked off the forum but this looks like the perfect candidate for an LS swap. Body lines look ok and somewhat exotic, put in a motor that is more than reliable that has plenty of hp and you would have a fun little car to run around in.
Back in the 60's Ferrari wanted to produce a new engine for the formula 2 racing series but the rules specified thousands needed to be made to qualify as production. Thus, the Ferrari engined Fiat was born. Open cars received a Pininfarina body, coupes (like this one) were made by Bertone. Neither the Fait or the Dino Ferrari carried the Ferrari badge, and the engine was also used in the very successful Lancia Stratos ralley car.
I was talking with my son about Ferraris the other day. They are touted as such great machines, and yes the old ones in particular look pretty awesome. BUT, every time one goes across the auction block (I live on the poor side of the tracks and auction banter is my only exposure to them) they mention the low mileage and that they need a major service ($$$) at some silly mileage like 20k. These motors may run like a scolded banshee when properly tuned by the right ferrari mechanic at how often and how much? I prefer a simple GM/Ford power plant that will easily hit 200k with only an oil change needed every few thousand miles.
Fiat made some nicely styled cars. As far as the car's acceptance by the automotive aficionados, it is like one of my cars that is poorly received at events that the real knowledgeable people attend. I just avoid them, take rides in the country, and get compliments in the parking lot of small town family diners.
"The Fiat Dino (Type 135) was a front-engine, rear-wheel-drive sports car produced by Fiat from 1966 to 1973. The Dino name refers to the Ferrari Dino V6 engine, produced by Fiat and installed in the cars to achieve the production numbers sufficient for Ferrari to homologate the engine for Formula 2 racing."
I missed that these are two different cars when I commented on, and later posted, the Hagerty article. Thanks for the clarification. It still will be an expensive project for whomever decides to restore it.
$2 more and I would consider the car overpriced. I like that under $10,000 market and before I settled on that number I missed some overpriced cars I sure wish I had today. The three special cars I in the garage today have been with me 45 years, 20+ years, and 12 years. Spread the difference between over priced and reasonably priced over that many year and the dollars are pretty low. Especially in my 75 year life where the deepest regrets I have are cars I didn't buy.
Years ago one of my best friends was interested in a 1962 Chrysler Pace Car. I asked him how the deal was going. He said "We are negotiating and about $2,000 apart". I told him "If you are letting $2,000 hold up the deal you just don't want the car." Bingo! He perked right up and said "You're right!"
The acquisition of an iconic luxury or sporting motor car has long been established as a milestone in the career of the aspiring rock star. In the case of Keith Richards, legendary lead guitarist with The Rolling Stones, this Ferrari Dino was one of a succession of such cars owned and enjoyed over a tumultuous career spanning some six decades. Given Keith's often wild driving - he famously crashed his Bentley Continental 'Blue Lena' (sold by Bonhams in 2015) more than once - it is nothing short of miraculous that any of his cars survive.
It was the need for a production-based engine for the new Formula 2 that had prompted the introduction of a 'junior' Ferrari, the Dino 206 GT, at the Turin Motor Show in 1967. The latest in a line of Dino V6 'quad-cam' engines stretching back to the late 1950s, the new unit proved as successful on the racetrack as in the showroom, Derek Bell and Ernesto Brambilla both winning races in the European Championship, while Andrea de Adamich triumphed in the 1968 Argentine Temporada series.
Building on experienced gained with its successful limited edition Dino 206S sports-racer of 1966, Ferrari retained the racer's mid-engined layout for the road car but installed the power unit transversely rather than longitudinally. A compact, aluminium-bodied coup of striking appearance, the Pininfarina-styled Dino - named after Enzo Ferrari's late son Alfredino Ferrari and intended as the first of a separate but related marque - was powered by a 2.0-litre, four-cam V6 driving via an in-unit five-speed transaxle. The motor's 180 brake horsepower was good enough to propel the lightweight, aerodynamically-efficient Dino to 142mph, and while there were few complaints about the car's performance, the high cost enforced by its aluminium construction hindered sales.
A 2.4-litre version on a longer wheelbase - the 246 GT - replaced the original Dino 206 in late 1969. Built by Scaglietti, the body was now steel, and the cylinder block cast-iron rather than aluminium, but the bigger engine's increased power - 195bhp at 7,600rpm - adequately compensated for the weight gain. A Targa-top version, the 246 GTS, followed in 1972. The Dino 246 was built in three series: 'L', 'M', and 'E', these designations reflecting detail changes in the specification.
Keith took delivery of this Ferrari Dino new in 1972 and used it frequently when The Rolling Stones were on European tours. Alan Dunn, The Rolling Stones Tour Manager, recalled: 'On these European tours of the 1970s, the band would fly to each gig and Keith, who avoided flying whenever he could, would choose to drive the Dino, frequently arriving at the band's hotel in the middle of the night. The majority of the Ferrari's mileage in Keith's ownership was covered in this way.'
Keith had covered some 25,000 miles in the Dino before it was sold in 1986 to a prestigious private collection in Japan. The Ferrari remained in Japan until 2014 when it returned to Europe and was purchased at a Monaco auction by another rock star, Liam Howlett, co-founder of The Prodigy. The engine was then rebuilt (in 2015) by renowned marque specialist Joe Macari, and the following year the Dino was sold to the current owner. The latter advises us that the car has been maintained and serviced with no issues arising, and that the alternator was changed two years ago. The current mileage total of circa 30,000 is believed genuine.
'GYL 157N' is beautifully finished in Argento (silver) with Nero (black) leather interior, and sits on period-correct Cromodora alloy wheels. Offered with a UK V5C registration document, Japanese export certificate, and a letter from The Rolling Stones' Tour Manager Alan Dunn confirming Keith Richards' ownership, this highly collectible Dino represents an exciting opportunity to own not only a significant Ferrari but also a very significant piece of rock music memorabilia.
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Ferrari has been manufacturing mid-engined sports cars for the best part of 50 years, all of which can all be traced back to one model - the Dino. It was named after Enzo Ferrari's son, Alfredino - who spearheaded Ferrari's development of the Dino V6 engine for racing. The marque was launched with the Ferrari Dino 206 GT in 1968 with a lightweight aluminium body and aluminium block 2.0-litre Fiat-built V6 engine, mounted transversely behind the driver.
In 1970, the Dino 246 GT arrived. The aluminium used in its predecessor was replaced with a cast iron block 2.4-litre V6 and steel body panels. The 246 GTS first appeared at the 1972 Geneva motor show, with a black targa roof panel. In total, just 235 right-hand-drive Dino 246 GTS models were imported to the UK between 1972 and 1974.
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