Best Hammond Vst

[Nella Mcnairy]

Ive got Galileo which isn't bad, but most of the presets are weird and overall it's not great at doing Hammond tones. I was looking at Galileo 2 but I'm not sure that's any better? What are some other options out there?

Galileo 2 has a few functional advantages over 1 but IMO the sound isn't really much better. It is super-cheap right now.

I have to say I think they both sound pretty good, but do stay away from the presets, they're not great (as you have already discovered). You're far better off making your own. G2 has extensive editing/sound-shaping abilities so you should be able to create something you're happy with.

I suspect the only competitor is Korg Module but I haven't tried those (expensive and not really any use for recording as not IAA/AB3/AU).

iOS is definitely lacking a definitive Hammond app. I'm hoping that @GospelMusicians are secretly working on something...

Firstly - I agree completely with @TimRussell a out the presets in Galileo. The same is true of Galileo 2 - the presets are not really representative of what the app can do, and certainly of not an accurate representation of a real Hammond Organ.

Of all the apps on iOS with organ sounds, I'd still say Galileo or Galileo 2 (people seem to prefer one over the other, I don't other than G2 is AUv3) are the best. Mostly because they have the full functionality of a true Hammond and therefore you can really dial in the tone to your preferences.

I find 99% of the Hammond emulators ultimately sound too "glassy" or "produced" by themselves. There are a number of tricks you can use to not only make the tone sound more genuine, but also your performance. Here's an old video I did talking about different ways to help make your organ tones a bit more "authentic" sounding:

I'm not a great organ player by any stretch, but the ideas are there. If you can work with Galileo a bit, add some grit with the preamp, find a Leslie tone you like, dive into the "Expert" or "Advanced" settings and bring in some things like key click, drawbar leak, etc. and then work the Leslie speed and drawbar settings as you play, you can get a fairly convincing sound.

Nothing sounds like a true Hammond, but that can be said about any instrument compared to it's app-emulator equivalent. If you take a bit of time to dial it in, you may not nail it exactly, but you can get pretty darn close with some diligence.

I think the Leslie in Galileo is pretty decent. G2 is only 2.99 at the moment and offers IAPs for other FX (including a different Leslie - not necessarily better, just a different flavour). Haven't tried the Eventide but it doesn't offer the ability to adjust mic placement so I ruled it out straightaway as that, for me at least, is pretty key to getting the 'right' Leslie effect.

Galileo patch need lots of tweaking. The first thing I always do is slow down the rotor speed. They are to fast fir my taste. Galileo 2 as a new Leslie called Rotary 2122. I have not made enough test to decide on my favorite.

@Daveypoo said:

Firstly - I agree completely with @TimRussell a out the presets in Galileo. The same is true of Galileo 2 - the presets are not really representative of what the app can do, and certainly of not an accurate representation of a real Hammond Organ.

Thanks and no problem! I'm a closet organist - I don't have the command of the keys that I'd like, so I just nerd-out about every other possible detail so I can make my ham-fisted banging sound convincing!

Actually there are some very nice hammond organ patches inside the Korg Module (IAPs). Fixed drawbar settings sadly, but good Leslie sim and nice drive simulation. So far I've been able to find the right sound for any gadget song featuring an organ.

Sorry, I'm not up on today's sound modules. Perfectly happy with my current setup, so I'm asking this for a friend who is contemplating purchasing a Kawai MP11 digital stage piano which lacks any organ sounds. He still needs some Hammond organ sounds for certain songs but doesn't want to carry more than one keyboard to gigs. So we're searching for the "best" organ module out there right now.

The only one I'm familiar with is the Roland VK-8M which I don't think is really that great. I have seen the thread on there about the HX3 module but recents posts in there are too technical and deal mainly with OS updates. Does/did Crumar have a Mojo module at one point? He already has Motif XS, Fantom, Triton, and Integra modules which aren't on the same level as my Hammond SK1 or his XK3 (which he doesn't want to drag around). Anything else out there right now (re: readily available) that he should be looking at? Thanks!

I'm using a Hammond XK3. Sits overtop the CP4 I bought from you. Everything in the XK3 has been matched/mapped to the XK3 by brother MG in Deutschland. I chose the XK3 over the SK1 because I wanted pitch/mod wheels for when I'm not playing organ sounds over lighter weight. Plus, I like the internal power supply.

this can be a great choice if paired with a Ventilator. There is a sys-x file somewhere that turns off the internal sim in the VK8m, as there is no sim on/off swirch like on the VK-8 keyboard. Now, though, you are at the same price point as the newer modules with an extra piece of gear to hook up.

no, you are not. you are not alone. I have sent mine back once also. I know of two other forum members who sent theirs back but won't mention who they are as I don't think that is right. All we have to do is pay for shipping. Great customer service.

Interesting on the XK3, my friend has one of those but doesn't want to bring it to gigs. Assuming you have the original XK3 and not the "c" model, I know the Leslie simulation basically sucks but aside from that is the sound from the HX3 really that much better than the Hammond?

My XK3 has JA's tonewheel set installed so the raw tones are good. HX3 has it beat on C/V, overdrive, reverb algorithms, and of course leslie sim. Everything in the HX3 is controlled by 1 MIDI cable to the XK3. I don't have to touch the HX3 unless I want. So I'm just playing the Hammond. It just sounds more authentic.

Realtime drawbar controls are not so easy with a touchscreen, although some events could be triggered by MIDI from the MP11, and I expect for some songs your friend could just dial in the required settings before hand and recall them as presets.

What about the Voce V5+? Haven't heard one in ages so I don't know how it stacks up, or if they are even still selling them new. But a used one might fit the bill for the player who doesn't need it for every song.

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