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Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal

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Sep 11, 2025, 12:10:56 PMSep 11
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Dear all,





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Amarāvati-Hīrāma i Professor (Research)  and President
Vision Research Institute Inc, Physics, Neuroscience, & Consciousness Research Dept.
7 Captain Parker Arms, Unit 12, Lexington, MA 02421-7016.
Researched at the University of Chicago and Harvard Medical Schools




On Thursday 11 September, 2025 at 11:40:43 am GMT-4, Victor Vahidi Motti <vahidv...@gmail.com> wrote:




Hello Ram,

Please send the link to the final version of our joint article that you recently completed.




Best Regards,
Victor V. Motti



On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 12:22 PM Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal <rlpv...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Thanks. Tom.
Regards 
Ram
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2025, at 10:41 AM, .tlombardo1 <tlomb...@cox.net> wrote:


Hello Ram,

Thanks for the incredible resource of ambient/meditative music and sounds of nature. I will save it. I normally listen to Western classical music during the day, while I write or read; I have done so for decades. Music is a constant accompaniment of my thinking processes. I will though try some of your links while I read in the afternoons. 

Tom

On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 12:53:24 PM MST, Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal <rlpv...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


Hi Tom, 
Please send links that are free.

Here are free links from India:

6. Meditative music

Rating 10/10: Morning Flute Music | Himalayan Flute Music | Relaxing Music | (बाँसुरी) Aparmita Ep. 89:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MCYDM1ZRm8 >

Rating = 7: Rainforest Sounds - Water Sound Nature Meditation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPrO2jlay40

 

Rating = 6: Tropical Rain & Relaxing Nature Sounds - UltraHD Nature Video - Sleep/ Relax/ Study/ Meditate:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9pQYOGIWM8

 

Rating = 5: Thunderstorm At Sea Sounds For Sleeping, Relaxing ~ Thunder Rain Ocean Sea Lightning Ambience:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsD5u6k6dKI

 

 

Waterfall & Jungle Sounds - Relaxing Tropical Rainforest Nature Sound (Singing Birds Ambience):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5n8f0fTeE

 

Calming Sea - Relaxing 2 Hour - Birds Singing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX4j_zHAlw8

 

Tropical Island Beach Ambience Sound - Ocean Sounds and Singing Birds Ambience For Relaxation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjRw0-5CYWo

 

Relaxing River Sounds - Gentle River, Nature Sounds, Singing Birds Ambience:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiiYMEWKVnY

 

Nature Sounds of a Forest for Relaxing-Natural Soothing Sound of a Waterfall & Bird Sounds:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2NmyoXBXmE

 

Thunderstorm and Rain Sounds - Heavy Thunder & lightning Strike Ambience For Relaxation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fNLEPrNi2A

 

Dramatic Thunderstorm Sounds 2 Hours Massive Thunder Bursts With Relaxing Soothing Rain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ak1ShDQWlU

 

Thunderstorm Sounds for Sleep & Relaxation | Thunder & Rain Ambience | HD Nature Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWoIljGEOQ4

 

Snowstorm Blizzard Wind Sounds For Sleeping, Relaxing ~ Calm Snow Arctic Howling Winter Ambience:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vplX-qr4AIE

 

Blizzard Storm Sounds | Relaxing Winter Background Sounds | Heavy Wind & Snow:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ddO3jPUFpg

 

Fireplace Sounds with Howling Wind | 2 Hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdd9b47x67M

 

Crackling Fireplace with Thunder, Rain and Howling Wind Sounds (HD):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atELVQ9aVGw

 

OM Chanting @417 Hz | Removes All Negative Blocks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sYK7lm3UKg

 

Music to Cleanse of Negative Energy at Home Space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tByJMiQp-IM

 

Radha-Krishna music

Morning Flute Music, Birds Singing Music, Flute Music, Flute Music For Krishna, Indian Music - YouTube

 

Lord krishna flute music RELAXING MUSIC,MIND, BODY,soul yoga,sudhiksha sangeet swar sadhna,7 youtube - YouTube

 

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Lord krishna flute music RELAXING MUSIC YOUR MIND ,sudhiksha sangeet swar sadhna 1 YouTube https://youtu.be/K_9b4G6EUIg

 

cute baby playing harmonium, cute baby, sudhiksha sangeet swar sadhna , youtube 2020 ,youtube 2021 2.5 years child playing harmonium https://youtu.be/2EmxOsi4yTU

 

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cute baby playing harmonium, cute baby video 4, sudhiksha sangeet swar sadhna,youtube 2020 , 2021 2.5 years baby child playing harmonium https://youtu.be/YVSG8dYa0cE Guitar Strumming Pattern | cute baby playing guitar| sudhiksha sangeet swar sadhna | youtube 2020-21 https://youtu.be/A5Zy5Qf2_9I

 

Guitar Strumming Pattern | cute baby playing guitar video 2 | sudhiksha sangeet swar sadhna, youtube https://youtu.be/zeZhqQluSQ0

 

Guitar Strumming Patterns|cute baby playing guitar video 3 | guitar strumming patterns for beginners https://youtu.be/NwkwRdGf7uU

 

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Himalyan Bansuri

Morning Flute Music | Himalayan Flute Music | Flute Meditation Music (बाँसुरी) | Aparmita Ep.14 - YouTube

 

Koyal singing bird: कोयल की आवाज

Koel bird singing sound - Cuckoo Song - कोयल की आवाज - Koyal ki awaz - Bing video

 

Beautiful Song Of Koel - Bird sound - Bing video

 

Cuckoo Bird Sound [CLEAR AUDIO]|| Koel Bird Singing - Bing video

 

Cuckoo bird / Koyal Bird (कोयल) - Bing video

 

Top 10 birds sweet voice - sweet voice birds names - Bing video

 

 

koyal bird singing black koo koo bird amazen sound - Bing video

 

Cuckoo sound - Bing video

 

Cuckoo ~ Common Cuckoo Bird Call BIRDSONG - Bing video

 

Cuckoo Bird - Bing video

 

Cuckoo calling - Bing video




 



Cheers!

Best regards,

Ram + ChatGPT (https://chatgpt.com) + Claude.AI  ( Claude ) +  Perplexity.AI  ( https://www.perplexity.ai/ ) + Gemini ( https://gemini.google.com/ ) + Bing ( https://www.bing.com / )

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RāmLakhan Pāndey Vimal, Ph.D.

Amarāvati-Hīrāma i Professor (Research)  and President
Vision Research Institute Inc, Physics, Neuroscience, & Consciousness Research Dept.
7 Captain Parker Arms, Unit 12, Lexington, MA 02421-7016.
Researched at the University of Chicago and Harvard Medical Schools




On Monday 8 September, 2025 at 03:48:15 pm GMT-4, tlombardo1 <tlomb...@cox.net> wrote:


Hello Ram and Victor,

One CD collection that immediately comes to mind is "Desert Grooves."  I believe that there are at least 6 volumes in this collection. I have 5 of them. Various individual songs/pieces of music from the CDs are available to listen to online. (Just checked) I don't know whether complete recordings of entire volumes are available to listen to. You can though buy the CDs online.  

Tom

On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 09:10:59 AM MST, Victor Vahidi Motti <vahidv...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hello Tom, 

You could publish a list of them online, I believe many of them now must be accessible to watch online on YouTube. 


Best Regards,
Victor V. Motti



On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 11:39 AM Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal <rlpv...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Excellent Tom.

If you have any links, please send them. I would love to listen to them.

Cheers!

Best regards,

Ram + ChatGPT (https://chatgpt.com) + Claude.AI  ( Claude ) +  Perplexity.AI  ( https://www.perplexity.ai/ ) + Gemini ( https://gemini.google.com/ ) + Bing ( https://www.bing.com / )

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RāmLakhan Pāndey Vimal, Ph.D.

Amarāvati-Hīrāma i Professor (Research)  and President
Vision Research Institute Inc, Physics, Neuroscience, & Consciousness Research Dept.
7 Captain Parker Arms, Unit 12, Lexington, MA 02421-7016.
Researched at the University of Chicago and Harvard Medical Schools




On Monday 8 September, 2025 at 10:57:19 am GMT-4, tlombardo1 <tlomb...@cox.net> wrote:


Hello Victor,

Thank you. As you may know (I may have told you) I have a large collection of "global" music CDs which includes numerous "Middle East" inspired collections. What you sent has harmonic/melodic similarities with a number of my CDs. 

Tom

On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 09:02:54 PM MST, Victor Vahidi Motti <vahidv...@gmail.com> wrote:




Hello Tom and Ram,

Some music poetry and dance based on the Indo Iranic tradition of unity of existence 

 

Watch the Music and Dance:



🌿 Poetic Translation of the Poem (by Rumi):

I am drunk and you are mad —

Who will take us home, dear friend?


A hundred times I warned you:


Don't drink two or three more cups again!


In this whole town, not a single soul


Do I see awake and sane —


Each one crazier than the next,


Lost in the same sweet pain.


Come, beloved, to the tavern,


There you'll taste the soul's delight.


What joy can the soul ever find


Without the beloved's light?


In every corner, a drunken one


Hand in hand with another —


And the cupbearer of all existence


Stands pouring wine like no other.


You are a child of ruin and wine,


Wine your income, wine your cost.


Don’t entrust this sacred gift


To minds who think they’ve never lost.


O you, the lute-player gypsy —


Are you more drunk, or am I?


In the face of your ecstasy,


My magic becomes a lie.


I walked out of my house,


My drunkenness led me astray —


In every glance of hers I saw


A hundred gardens, blooming in play.


Like a ship without an anchor,


I tossed and turned on the sea —


From longing for her, even wise men


Lost their minds, no longer free.


I said, “Be my friend, for I am your own.”


She said, “I don’t know friend from unknown.”


I asked, “Where are you from?” She smiled:


“Half from Turkestan, half from Ferghana.


Half of me is water and clay,


Half is soul and love’s Nirvana.


Half of me the ocean’s shore,


Half a pearl without flaw

.”
I am bare, without hat or heart —


A tavern is my humble place.


A chest full of untold words —


Should I share them, or leave no trace?

Interpretation (Mystical and Symbolic)

1. "I am drunk and you are mad" – the annihilation of ego

This opening line sets the mystical tone. In Sufism:

Drunkenness symbolizes ecstatic love and loss of the self in divine presence.

Madness represents the overwhelming, irrational force of divine attraction.
The question “Who will take us home?” suggests that in this state, normal rules and paths (reason, tradition, logic) don’t work anymore.

2. A world of madness

The speaker walks through the world and finds no one sober — suggesting that once one is awakened to spiritual truth, they see that everyone else is already unconsciously caught in illusion or yearning.

3. Invitation to the tavern (kharabat)

In Sufi literature, the tavern is not a place of sin, but a spiritual realm where conventional religion and intellect break down and are replaced by direct experience of divine love.

4. Divine cupbearer (Saaqi)

The cupbearer is God or the spiritual master pouring the wine of truth. This wine brings spiritual intoxication — a state beyond rational thought.

5. Oneness and transcendence of identity

The beloved says, “I don’t know friend from stranger,” and “I am from everywhere and nowhere.” This dissolves individual boundaries — gender, place, religion, ego — all fade before the One.

6. Symbols of sea and pearl

Being “half the sea, half the pearl” references:

The mystery of existence,

The hidden nature of divine wisdom,

The beloved as both the source and goal of the seeker.

7. Letting go of worldly identity

“Without hat or heart” — the poet gives up social markers and ego. The tavern becomes home. “A chest full of untold words” refers to divine secrets too vast or sacred to put into words.

🪶 Summary of Themes:

Love as a transformative madness.

Union with the Divine as the ultimate goal.

A rejection of cold rationality in favor of mystical experience.

The beloved as God, truth, or the inner self.

Dissolution of ego, borders, and self-consciousness.


Source: Alternative Planetary Futures Institute, Washington DC, USA 



Best Regards,
Victor V. Motti


On Sun, Sep 7, 2025, 20:20 tlombardo1 <tlomb...@cox.net> wrote:
Hello Ram,

Thank you for the link to your article. 

Tom


On Sunday, September 7, 2025 at 02:37:15 PM MST, Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal <rlpv...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


Thanks, Victor.

Please review the features of Unity of Existence: Indo-Iranic Legacy (Mulla Sadra (1571–1640) as elaborated in 



Cheers!

Best regards,

Ram + ChatGPT (https://chatgpt.com) + Claude.AI  ( Claude ) +  Perplexity.AI  ( https://www.perplexity.ai/ ) + Gemini ( https://gemini.google.com/ ) + Bing ( https://www.bing.com / )

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RāmLakhan Pāndey Vimal, Ph.D.

Amarāvati-Hīrāma i Professor (Research)  and President
Vision Research Institute Inc, Physics, Neuroscience, & Consciousness Research Dept.
Researched at the University of Chicago and Harvard Medical Schools




On Sunday 7 September, 2025 at 04:55:02 pm GMT-4, Victor Vahidi Motti <vahidv...@gmail.com> wrote:




Hello Ram,

Thank you for including it.

From my perspective your framework and mine are essentially the same because of our deeply shared Indo-Iranic heritage.

See for your reference,


I have explained in the book "Planetary Foresight and Ethics" that we essentially share the same philosophy on the nature or theory of reality.

What needs to be done is to recast the ancient Indo-Iranic wisdom tradition of nearly 4000 years ago into modern scientific theory and language. A job that you are doing very well:



Best Regards,
Victor V. Motti


On Sun, Sep 7, 2025, 15:49 Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal <rlpv...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Thank you, Tom.

Table 3 is on pages 22-27; see page 21 for 
41. Unity of Existence: Indo-Iranic Legacy (Victor V. Motti).



Hi Victor,

Thank you for your write-up for adding your framework as #41. Do you like us to interpret Brahma Sutras in terms of your framework? For this, I need few pages of write-up with 17 features (if possible); See Table 3.1 in <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IL4GSywtNRmnvyiaBxtjOls-CYL0DFhJ/view?usp=sharing>. page 349.

I have tried to insert in the table, but please check the content on page 27 and also see Endnote 15 of description that has your email as well. Please feel free to make corrections. I have attached both PDF and Word Docx file for your convenience.


Cheers!

Best regards,

Ram + ChatGPT (https://chatgpt.com) + Claude.AI  ( Claude ) +  Perplexity.AI  ( https://www.perplexity.ai/ ) + Gemini ( https://gemini.google.com/ ) + Bing ( https://www.bing.com / )

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RāmLakhan Pāndey Vimal, Ph.D.

Amarāvati-Hīrāma i Professor (Research)  and President
Vision Research Institute Inc, Physics, Neuroscience, & Consciousness Research Dept.
Researched at the University of Chicago and Harvard Medical Schools




On Sunday 7 September, 2025 at 01:06:44 pm GMT-4, tlombardo1 <tlomb...@cox.net> wrote:


Hello RāmLakhan Pāndey Vimal, Ph.D. ,

I am a member of the Alternative Planetary Institute and I reviewed over the table/commentary/analysis of 40 views of consciousness you submitted to the email group for the Alternative Planetary Institute. I found your submission informative, illuminating, and valuable. Is there is a link for this submission? Is there a pdf? I wanted to share it with the participants of a webinar I am currently doing on the future evolution of consciousness. 

Thank you
Tom Lombardo
Center for Future Consciousness

Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal

<rlpvimal@yahoo.co.in>
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Sep 12, 2025, 2:36:14 PM (13 days ago) Sep 12
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Dear Victor and Tom,

 

Thanks for asking.

 

Some of the peer-reviewed articles related to DPV~ICRDAM (or equivalent) published in academic journals are listed below:

 

1.       Bókkon, I., & Vimal, R. L. P. (2009). Retinal phosphenes and discrete dark noises in rods: A new biophysical framework. Journal of Photochemistry and Photobiology B: Biology < http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2009-Bokkon-Vimal-Retinal-dark-noise.pdf >, 96, 255-259.

2.       Bókkon, I., & Vimal, R. L. P. (2010). Implications on visual apperception: energy, duration, structure and synchronization. BioSystems < http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2010-Bokken-Vimal-Visual-Apperception.pdf >, 101, 1-9.

3.       Bókkon, I., & Vimal, R. L. P. (2013). Theoretical implications on visual (color) representation and cytochrome oxidase blobs. Activitas Nervosa Superior <http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2013-Bókkon-Vimal-Theoretical-implications-on-visual-(color)-representation-and-cytochrome-oxidase-blobs.pdf>, 55(1-2), 15-37.

4.       Bókkon, I., Vimal, R. L., Wang, C., Dai, J., Salari, V., Grass, F., & Antal, I. (2011). Visible light induced ocular delayed bioluminescence as a possible origin of negative afterimage. J Photochem Photobiol B < http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2011-Bokkon-Vimal-Visible-light-induced-ocular-delayed-bioluminescence-as-a-possible-origin-of-negative-afterimage >, 103(2), 192-199.

5.       Bruzzo, A. A., & Vimal, R. L. P. (2007). Self: An adaptive pressure arising from self-organization, chaotic dynamics, and neural Darwinism. J Integr Neurosci, 6(4), 541-566. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5669601_Self_An_adaptive_pressure_arising_from_self-organization_chaotic_dynamics_and_neural_Darwinism

6.       Caponigro, M., & Vimal, R. L. P. (2010). Quantum Interpretation of Vedic theory of Mind: an epistemological path and objective reduction of thoughts. J Consciousness Exploration & Res <http://jcer.com/index.php/jcj/article/view/54/42>, 1(4), 402-481.

7.       Caponigro, M., Jiang, X., Prakash, R., & Vimal, R. L. P. (2010). Quantum Entanglement: can we "see" the Implicate Order? Philosophical Speculations. NeuroQuantology, 8(3), 378-389.

8.       Carpenter, P. A., Davia, C. J., & Vimal, R. L. P. (2009). Catalysis, Perception and Consciousness. New Mathematics and Natural Computation (NMNC) (World Scientific) <http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2009-Carpenter-Davia-Vimal-Catalysis-Perception-and-Consciousness.pdf

9.       MacGregor, R. J., & Vimal, R. L. P. (2008). Consciousness and the Structure of Matter. J Integr Neurosci, 7(1), 75-116 <Available: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5420693_Consciousness_and_the_structure_of_matter.>

10.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2008a). Attention and Emotion <Available: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26544852>The Annual Review of Biomedical Sciences (ARBS), 10, 84-104.

11.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2008b). Proto-experiences and Subjective Experiences: Classical and Quantum Concepts. J Integr Neurosci, 7(1), 49-73. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5420692_Proto-experiences_and_subjective_experiences_Classical_and_quantum_concepts

12.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2009b). Dual Aspect Framework for Consciousness and Its Implications: West meets East for Sublimation Process [Available: <http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2009-Vimal-Consciousness-and-its-implications-recent-version-LVCR-2-11.pdf>]. In G. Derfer & Z. Wang & M. Weber (Eds.), The Roar of Awakening. A Whiteheadian Dialogue Between Western Psychotherapies and Eastern Worldviews (Vol. 3 of Whitehead Psychology Nexus Studies, pp. 39-70). Frankfurt / Lancaster: Ontos Verlag.

13.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2009e). Meanings attributed to the term 'consciousness': an overview. J Consciousness Stud, 16(5), 9-27. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233499902

14.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2009h). Subjective Experience Aspect of Consciousness Part I - Integration of Classical, Quantum, and Subquantum Concepts. NeuroQuantology, 7(3), 390-410.

15.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2009i). Subjective Experience Aspect of Consciousness Part II: Integration of Classical and Quantum Concepts for Emergence Hypothesis. NeuroQuantology, 7(3), 411-434.

16.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2010a). Consciousness, Non-conscious Experiences and Functions, Proto-experiences and Proto-functions, and Subjective Experiences. J Consciousness Exploration & Res [Available: <http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2010-Vimal-Consciousness-Experience-LVCR-3-6.pdf >; <http://jcer.com/index.php/jcj/article/view/37/35 >], 1(3), 383-389.

17.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2010b). Interactions among Minds/Brains: Individual Consciousness and Inter-subjectivity in Dual-Aspect Framework. J Consciousness Exploration & Res [Available: http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2010-Vimal-Interactions-among-Minds-Brains-LVCR-3-7.pdf], 1(6), 657-717.

18.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2010c). Matching and selection of a specific subjective experience: conjugate matching and subjective experience. J Integr Neurosci, 9(2), 193-251. <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/44853901_Matching_and_selection_of_a_specific_subjective_experience_Conjugate_matching_and_experience>

19.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2010d). On the Quest of Defining Consciousness. Mind Matter, 8(1), 93-121.

20.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2010e). Towards a Theory of Everything Part I - Introduction of Consciousness in Electromagnetic Theory, Special and General Theory of Relativity. NeuroQuantology, 8(2), 206-230. < https://www.researchgate.net/publication/241688911_Towards_a_Theory_of_Everything_Part_I_-_Introduction_of_Consciousness_in_Electromagnetic_Theory_Special_and_General_Theory_of_Relativity>

21.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2010f). Towards a Theory of Everything Part II - Introduction of Consciousness in Schrödinger equation and Standard Model using Quantum Physics. NeuroQuantology, 8(3), 304-313. < https://www.researchgate.net/publication/269526197>

22.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2010g). Towards a Theory of Everything Part III - Introduction of Consciousness in Loop Quantum Gravity and String Theory and Unification of Experiences with Fundamental Forces. NeuroQuantology, 8(4), 571-599. < https://www.researchgate.net/publication/269526110>

23.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2013). Emergence in Dual-Aspect Monism. In A. Pereira Jr. & D. Lehmann (Eds.), The Unity of Mind, Brain and World: Current Perspectives on a Science of Consciousness (pp. 149-181). Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press. <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236869023_Emergence_in_Dual-Aspect_Monism>

24.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2018a). Dependent Co-origination and Inherent Existence: extended Dual-Aspect Monism. Rev. Simbio-Logias: Philosophical perspectives on meditation, 10(13), 160-210. <Available: http://www.ibb.unesp.br/Home/Departamentos/Educacao/Simbio-Logias/revistas/dependent_co-origination.pdf; https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329132008>.(Vimal, 2018a)

25.    Vimal, R. L. P. (2018b). The Inseparable-complementary dual-Aspect Monism framework: An attempt to solve the Hard problem. Trans/Form/Ação, Marília, Edição Especial, 41, 153-182. (Vimal, 2018b) http://dx.doi.org/10.1590/0101-3173.2018.v41esp.09.p153

26.    Vimal, R. L. P., & Davia, C. J. (2008). How Long is a Piece of Time? - Phenomenal Time and Quantum Coherence - Toward a Solution. Quantum Biosystems <Available: http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2008-Vimal-Davia-PhenomenalTime-QBS2-20102-151.pdf >, 2, 102-151.

27.    Vimal, R. L. P., & Davia, C. J. (2010). Phenomenal Time and its Biological Correlates. J Consciousness Exploration & Res <http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2010-Vimal-Davia-Phenomenal-Time-and-its-Biological-Correlates.pdf > This contains recent updates., 1(5), 560-572.

28.    Vimal, R. L. P., & Pandey-Vimal, M.-U. C. (2007). Ancient Historical Scripture and Color Vision. Color Research and Application [Pre-print is available: http://sites.google.com/site/rlpvimal/Home/2007-Vimal-Pandey-Vimal-AncientHistScriptColVis-CRA.pdf], 32(4), 332-333.

29.    Vimal, R. L. P., Bókkon, I., Császár, N., Vas, J. P., & Szőke, H. (2015). Transgenerational Epigenetic Mechanisms, Unconscious Creativity, and Sensory Deprivation: Semi-Free Will in the Inseparable-complementary dual-aspect Monism Framework. Quantum Biosystems <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/299560022_Special_Issue_Transgenerational_Epigenetic_Mechanisms_Unconscious_Creativity_and_Sensory_Deprivation_Semi-Free_Will_in_the_Extended_Dual-aspect_Monism_Framework>, <http://www.quantumbiosystems.org/admin/files/QBS%206%20(1)%2033-53.pdf>, 6(1), 33-53. (Vimal et al., 2015) (Bókkon et al., 2011; Bókkon & Vimal, 2009; Bókkon & Vimal, 2010), (Bókkon & Vimal, 2013)

 


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(Vimal, 2023b, 2024a, 2024b(3.1,3.2,3.3), 2025a(4.1,4.2, 4.3), 2025b, 2025v17, 2025v18





Cheers!

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Amarāvati-Hīrāma i Professor (Research)  and President
Vision Research Institute Inc, Physics, Neuroscience, & Consciousness Research Dept.
7 Captain Parker Arms, Unit 12, Lexington, MA 02421-7016.
Researched at the University of Chicago and Harvard Medical Schools




On Friday 12 September, 2025 at 01:18:13 pm GMT-4, Victor Vahidi Motti <vahidv...@gmail.com> wrote:




Hi Ram,

Any peer reviewed article on your DPV~ICRDAM framework in academic journals?



Best Regards,
Victor V. Motti


On Fri, Sep 12, 2025, 13:09 Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal <rlpv...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Hi Tom and Victor,

The DPV~ICRDAM is NOT materialism (matter first), idealism (consciousness first), dualism (both consciousness and matter are fundamental). Instead, it is a middle way, a foundational metaphysics based on dual-aspect monism (consciousness and matter are inseparable, complementary, and reflective aspects of reality).

 

In DPV~ICRDAM (spirituality-based Dvi-Pakṣādvaita Vedānta ~ (equivalent to) science-based Inseparable-Complementary-Reflective Dual-Aspect Monism), a state of an entity is a dual-aspect (DA) state (DAS) with consciousness[i] as the subjective (s) aspect and its physical basis is the inseparable, complementary, reflective non-subjective (ns) aspect. It includes 41 frameworks, both Vedantic and non-Vedantic, from around the world.[ii]

 

A brief introduction is attached. Please feel free to ask questions. It is not easy to understand it.


[i] In ICRDAM (Inseparable-Complementary-Reflective Dual-Aspect Monism) and DPV (Dvi-Pakṣādvaita Vedānta), the term individual ‘consciousness’ (IC) as parts of Saguṇa Brahman (SB) refers to conscious subjective experiences (CSEs) of (i) active dynamic self (ADS), (ii) passive invariant self (PIS) that remains unchanged during a lifetime (PIS = ADS + autobiographical_LTM → self-certainty; ADS and PIS are two facets of the same self), (iii) exogenous and endogenous stimuli, and (iv) conscious components of cognitions including conscious thoughts, conscious decisions, memory, attention, perception, sensation, idea, or intuition, &c from the subject’s 1st-person perspective (1pp) as a subjective (s) aspect of a conscious state of a subject.

 

In other words, in Spirituality-based Dvi-Pakṣādvaita Vedānta (DPV) and science-based Inseparable-Complementary-Reflective Dual-Aspect Monism (ICRDAM), collectively referred to as DPV~ICRDAM, consciousness encompasses conscious subjective experience (CSE). It includes:

(i) Active dynamic self (ADS), which refers to self-consciousness; 

(ii) Passive invariant self, indicating the ongoing feeling of being the same person throughout a person's life, maintained through autobiographical long-term memory; 

(iii) Both exogenous and endogenous stimuli; and 

(iv) The conscious components of cognitions, such as conscious thoughts.

 

Each component of consciousness has its own neural-physical activity/basis (NPA/NPB), which can be measured from the subject's 3rd-person perspective (3pp) as the inseparable non-subjective (ns) aspect of the same conscious state of the same subject.  Individual consciousness is a latecomer in evolution.

 

The conscious subjective experience (CSE) redness is a 1pp (1st person perspective) subjective (s) aspect that is inseparable and complementary to the related 3pp (3rd pp) non-subjective (ns) aspect of a redness-related dual-aspect state (DAS) of a trichromat. If we 'view' EII (effective integrated information experienced) from private 1pp, then it is CSE redness, and if the same EII is 'viewed' (i.e., measured) from the public 3pp, then it is 1-1 bidirectionally related neural-physical activities (NPA) in the visual area 8 (V8) neural network. All trichromats will claim CSE redness when they see a red rose. Thus, in essence, all trichromats (publically) will claim to experience redness without fail. There are not two states (i) one for 1pp CSE and (ii) the other for 3pp NPA; instead, there is only one conscious DAS with inseparable and complementary s and ns aspects.

 

In other words, the conscious subjective experience (CSE) of redness is a first-person perspective (1pp) subjective aspect that is inseparable from and complementary to the related third-person perspective (3pp) non-subjective (ns) aspect of a redness-related dual-aspect state (DAS) for a trichromat. When we examine effective integrated information (EII) from a private 1pp perspective, it manifests as CSE redness. Conversely, when the same EII is observed from a public 3pp perspective, it corresponds to bidirectionally redness-related neural-physical activities (NPA) within the visual area 8 (V8) neural network. All trichromats will assert that they experience CSE redness when they see a red rose. Essentially, all trichromats will reliably claim to experience redness. There are not two separate states—one for 1pp CSE and another for 3pp NPA; rather, there is only one conscious DAS with inseparable and complementary subjective and non-subjective aspects.

 

 

[ii] List of 41 Vedantic and non-Vedantic Frameworks

There are over 41 Vedantic and non-Vedantic Frameworks.  First 10 are sub-schools of Vedānta in the following list:

1. Brahma Sūtra Vedānta (BSV: Bādarāyaṇa/Vyāsa: 400–450)

2. Bhedābheda Vedānta (भेदाभेद, BAV: Bhāskarāchārya: 750-800) (Kato, 2010)

3. Advaita (AV, non-dualism, Ādi Śankarāchārya: 788-820),

4. Cit(non-physical aspect)-acit(physical aspect) Viśiṣṭādvaita (CAV, qualified non-dualism, Rāmānujāchārya: 1017–1137),

5. Dvaitādvaita Vedānta (DAV, Nimbārkāchārya: 1130-1200),

6. Dvaita Vedānta (DV, dualism, Mādhavāchārya: 1238–1317),

7. Shuddhādvaita Vedānta (SAV, pure non-dualism, Vallabhāchārya: 1479-1531),

8. Achintya-Bhedābheda (ABAV, inconceivable oneness and difference, Chaitanya Mahāprabhu, 1486-1534).

9. Vijñāna Vedānta (VV, Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa (1836 –1886), Swāmi Vivekānanda, and Sri Aurobindo) §1.11.16 of (Vimal, 2023b)

10. Spirituality-based Dvi-Pakṣādvaita Vedānta (DPV) and science-based Inseparable-Complementary-Reflective Dual-Aspect Monism (ICRDAM): (Vimal: 1947-)

 

The sub-schools 2, 4, 5, 8-10 are based on a dual-aspect view. For further detail, see Table 1 of (Vimal, 2012c) and tables of (Vimal, 2023).


11. Modern Materialistic Science (Multiple contributors over time, including Galileo, Newton, Einstein, and many others, such as about 646 Nobel Prize winners in science (as of 15 August 2024)): Fundamental Physical Laws and the Nature of the Universe       

12. Nyāya (Gautama a.k.a. Aksapada: 600 BCE): The Ancient Indian School of Logic and Epistemology  

13. Vaiśeṣika (Kaṇāda/कणाद: 600 BCE): The Ancient Indian ‘Aṇu’ (अणु) (Atomistic) Philosophy of Categorization and Particularity

14. Yoga (Patañjali/पतञ्जलि : 200 BCE-500 CE): Patañjali's Yoga: The Ancient Science of Mind and Self-Realization  

15. Nyāya-Vaiśeṣika-Yoga Science (NVYS): Fundamentals of ‘aṇu’ (अणु) – the technical   conceptualization of Model-Mensura of Conscious Matter Units, Categories and Causal Relationships  

16. Non-interactive dualism-based Sāṅkhya (Kapila)     

17. Buddhism (Siddhartha Gautama: the Buddha)

18. Cārvāka/Lokāyata Philosophy: No single founder, considered a lineage of materialistic thinkers ancient scientific system

19. Mīmāṃsā (Jaimini: 600 BCE)    

20. Shiva-Śakti Kashmiri Shaivism (KS: Utpaladeva, Abhinavagupta, &c) 

21. Sikhism (Guru Nanak)

22. Jainism (Mahāvīra: the 24th Tirthankara)

23 Islam (Prophet Muhammad)        

24. Christianity (Jesus Christ)  

25. Judaism (Abraham: the first patriarch): 

26. Baháʼí (Bahá'u'lláh) 

27. Cartesian Interactive Substance Dualism (René Descartes)  

28. Idealism (Plato)       

29. Zoroastrianism (Zoroaster: lived in ancient Persia (Iran) around the 6th century BCE)        

30. Taoism (Laozi: author of the Tao Te Ching)   

31. Confucianism (Confucius: Chinese philosopher 770-476 BCE)

32. Ancient Egyptian Religion (Pharaohs, Imhotep, Amenemope, Ptahhotep, Nubians, Libyans, and Mesopotamians: started before 3100 BCE)         

33. Transpersonal Psychology

34. Perennial Philosophy

35. Process Philosophy

36. Eco-Philosophy

37. Symbiotic Existential Cosmology (Chris King)       

38. Mystical Art-Experience Framework (MAEF, Vivekanand Pandey Vimal)

39. Sai Baba of Shirdi: Spiritual Master, Principles, and Profound Teachings      

40. Consciousness as the Ground of Reality (CGR): Deepak Chopra's Holistic Paradigm, and        

41. Unity of Existence: Indo-Iranic Legacy (Mulla Sadra (1571–1640), Victor V. Motti (2025))

 



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RāmLakhan Pāndey Vimal, Ph.D.

Amarāvati-Hīrāma i Professor (Research)  and President
Vision Research Institute Inc, Physics, Neuroscience, & Consciousness Research Dept.
Researched at the University of Chicago and Harvard Medical Schools




On Friday 12 September, 2025 at 11:45:14 am GMT-4, Victor Vahidi Motti <vahidv...@gmail.com> wrote:




Hello Tom,

Please include Ram in your invitation to consciousness webinar series.

I believe the two of you can produce a joint paper on the topic.

Ram has a bold claim that modern scientific theory in physics can be mapped to the Indo Iranic theory of reality.

This is highly speculative but I think it is worthwhile to get it published in a peer reviewed "philosophy" journal.




Best Regards,
Victor V. Motti


On Fri, Sep 12, 2025, 11:30 tlombardo1 <tlomb...@cox.net> wrote:
Hello Victor and Ram,

Thanks for the offer. A couple of points though:
I have just started to look over the variety of posts Ram has sent and consequently I am just starting to study and attempt to understand Ram's philosophy. I plan on delving deeper into it, but right now I don't know enough to be reasonably clear regarding what Ram is proposing. I just opened the last post (below) from Ram. As such, I am uncertain regarding how his views compare to mine.
The same would be true regarding what Victor has posted on his views on the "unity of existence." I also intend to study more closely his views.
I have serious reservations regarding the "unity of existence" thesis. 
Over the next two weeks, prior to my next Evolution of Consciousness webinar, I will probably examine in more depth both Ram and Victor's posts. Let's see what I think then.

Tom

On Friday, September 12, 2025 at 07:43:42 AM MST, Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal <rlpv...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


Dear Victor and Tom,

It will be fine with me. 

Please review the attached manuscript, make appropriate updates, and select an appropriate journal.

Cheers!

Best regards,

Ram + ChatGPT (https://chatgpt.com) + Claude.AI  ( Claude ) +  Perplexity.AI  ( https://www.perplexity.ai/ ) + Gemini ( https://gemini.google.com/ ) + Bing ( https://www.bing.com / )

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RāmLakhan Pāndey Vimal, Ph.D.

Amarāvati-Hīrāma i Professor (Research)  and President
Vision Research Institute Inc, Physics, Neuroscience, & Consciousness Research Dept.
Researched at the University of Chicago and Harvard Medical Schools




On Friday 12 September, 2025 at 09:57:52 am GMT-4, Victor Vahidi Motti <vahidv...@gmail.com> wrote:




Hello Tom and Ram,

How about the two of you work together on a joint paper and getting it published in a leading peer reviewed philosophy journal using the Ap-Fi affiliation?

The focus on the evolving discussion around unity of existence; from physics to metaphysics.
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