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My problem is that windmill it is not transferring power, even though i got strong wind and 60vdc at the pv input side. And the voltage on battery bank is more than 5v lower (51,2v - 57,6 is cycle use)
I'll begin with the caveat that I am not a pro installer here.
But very interesting setup you have there, so wanted to give you a temporary reply as we have been experimenting for some time with something very similar.
I am sure others more qualified will chime in, but you are probably missing a piece of equipment between the turbine and the regulator that allows programming of the power curve of the turbine to your regulator and keeps it loaded with dump loads. The Victron smart solar regulators are certainly great for PV but may require a tweak or two to do wind and hydro well.
Hi, I'm really interested in your experience with wind generators. I'm trying to integrate our two wind generators into our victron system but my victron consultancy in holland don't want to have anything to do with it ("beyond the scope of our consultancy"). Do you offer advice or consultancy, or do you know of someone who can? My email address is a.dew...@designerdock.com (Alexander Dewhirst)
Also very, very interested in this. Can this thread be used to discuss it?
Or if you prefer PM that is fine too.
May I ask what MPTT turbine you are using and why, as you suggest?
Many thanks
3. The one thing you may not be able to achieve with that setup is synched charge voltage for optimal usage of both wind and solar simultaneously?
Or can you do that too, or are you simply ignoring it?
I guess you could say it is a kind of luxury problem.
Very curious! I want to ger started with a few circa 1kW VAWT installs in a small village where big installs and noise is not an option. Is that something you have seen or worked with? Many thanks for sharing.
What do you mean by 'Morningstar 60A (3KW) MPPT/PWM that allow for a define power curve instead of solar tracking. Defined power curve PWM mode is MUCH better for controlling a windturbine.'.. It is MPPT for defining power curve and PWM for diversion control?
Hi I am also trying to set-up a wind turbine alonside my 3kW solar array with Multiplus II 5000/48/70 and cerbo GX. I have 6kW of Lifep04 Batteries. All the Solar has been working fine. It looks like you have already set this up using a Smartshunt and a Morning Star 60A controller. Would it be possible for you to publish a schematic of the wiring set up or indicate which wires on the smarshunt go where? And/or great to have a chat or e mail exchange. It would be much appreciated. thanks, Ian
Hi 48V, sorry, I only just saw your post now. Your setup sounds really interesting. I've extended my setup but still haven't managed to get any decent wind input. I'm not sure if DM works here - I can't find how to write to you directly. I need a victron consultant in general so if you have some time to help I don't mind hiring you if I can afford your rates. My email address is ja...@kythera-family.net if you want to discuss it.
I'm not an "expert" but I've been working with solar/wind for over 20 years, quite successfully. If you have any pictures or drawings of your setup I could probably help out or at least point you into the right direction. Contact me at voip...@gmail.com and I'll see what I can do. I'm creating a wind controller that will show you the conditions of your throughput (volts, amps etc) and has a brake on it that you can set as well.
Just to clearify, i did never ever kill a Victron MPPT, I just saw what happened with a friends charger, after he drilled through both PV wires... There were bubbles appearing on the surface of the charger. Not nice :o(
Hmm, I don't really have an opinion about a reasonable price for such a unit, but my expectation is that it would be priced as the higher end MPPT's. The reason being the lower amount of produced units compared to the MPPT's. But that's just my expectation. You guys know what you are doing and I think any price you choose will be reasonable. For me, the potential availability for such a unit would absolutely spark an interest to install a wind turbine. In fact, reading this thread has already made me look around for one and study what it's all about...
As is, I'm interested in using at least one of these in a nautical environment. More interested if a VE.Can model is available. Personal opinion, but I feel that VE.Can's RJ45 connection would be more tolerant of the forces ships undergo than VE.Direct would. There's also the potentially longer cable length and no need to source proprietary cables if & when something fails. :)
Are the connections at the far bottom right power inputs for the PCB?
Does the device accept the same input power voltage range that a typical Victron MPPT handles, that is something between 8 to 76.8 volts?
Yes. The connection at the bottom right is a power supply input. (10V-70V) At first, we had the plan to power the unit from the turbine only, this turned out to be tricky for configuration and other things.
Many thanks for sharing this!
Well, if that is considered a boost, you have one order here if it does what it says ;)
May I ask if this is will be a Victron branded device or your own/something else?
Can you share anything else preliminary in your design and thinking?
One specific I would be extremely interested to learn is what the minimum practical voltage and current required from a turbine to charge a 48V system. A 24V system?
Could you comment on that?
Also curious what the smallest and biggest Victron controller that will work with this?
I would assume by the rating that it might be well matched to work with the SmartSolar MPPT 250/100?.
It's similar to panels: The higher the turbine Voltage, the lower the current is, to transport the same amount of energy. The turbine might not always be close to the turbine controller/MPPT. So this is a matter of losses (cable sizes).
The smallest possible controller will be the smallest available. For the biggest, it will be a 250V MPPT but we have to do maximum continuous power tests. It will also be a matter of enclosure/heatsink. We will see.
yes, it is designed to take the rectified turbine output. A lot of thinking went into the rectifier part. The first prototypes had the rectifier onboard and a lock relay, but it turned out to be the rectifier, that produces most of the heat. We experimented with zero voltage drop rectifiers and in the end, we did it without, to be able to handle larger turbines.
Really interesting product - I have been looking for something very similar recently and have had to improvise a little. Having a solution fully integrated into the Victron Energy world would be great.
I'm very interested in how wind turbines connected via this controller to the Victron charge controllers would behave. For example, do the regular MPPT sweeps affect the turbine performance... I'd imagine that depending on the depth of sweep it could cause the turbine to stall? Also, how well does the MPPT algorithm cope with highly turbulent wind conditions?
I bought a bunch of parts to build my own setup but I think I'll just wait for this to come out. Any chance you have a rough ETA? Early/Late 2022? Thanks for solving the renewable power in winter problem for those of us in windy locations!
Some components became unavailable due to component crisis, requiring some circuit board redesign and the software developer for this project is located in Ukraine and we have unfortunately no contact at the moment.
this is ridiculous!!! How can such important project be put on hold for years due to the Ukrainian developer is playing war game. There are millions developers out there who could easily take over such an easy software project. Why don't you find someone else? Or as many things at Victron, how about open source the code and let the community finish it. I could test your device and give feedback as i have everything from MPPTs to Wind Turbine.
I am sorry this project came to stop. The product is more or less finished for years, a Firmware has to be written. Warwick and me did what we could to realize this controller, but we can't write a proper end user firmware. 5 prototypes were made and 3 of them were sent to the developer and Victron on our efforts and cost. We had a lot of time and money involved in this project and it is sad that this was fruitless.
I kept one prototype for myself, if someone here has the skills and would be able to help finish the project (plus a redesign to change components that are not longer available), contact me via E-mail (markus(at)pauritsch.at), if someone will convince me, that he is able to finish the project, I would send the prototype plus the documentation we have.
Not wanting to take anything away from the guys who are/were developing a wind turbine controller in this thread, however I wanted to let the community know that I have recently invested in an AirForce 1 Wind Turbine System from FuturEnergy , it is working really well with my Victron ESS setup. This is a 3-Phase AC permanent magnet generator with an 'Airforce Control' Turbine monitor and auto-stop system for 24V & 48V battery charge systems. The PMG outputs 167V 3-Phase AC which is converted to 48v DC at the Controller and puts this out onto the Lynx Distributor Busbar before my Quattro 48/8000/110-100/100 230V.
There is a manual turbine break switch on the 3-phase line before the controller and a number of settings in the Controller that will set the turbine break on and off if any of the max/min Voltage & Wind Speed settings are reached.
Additionally, there are Remote No/Nc connectors on the Controller from which I have used one of them to connect to one of my Cerbo GX Relays to stop/start the Turbine when the required SoC is reached or falls below, by whatever means of charging, and is monitored via a Victron Smartshunt set in DC Monitor mode.
FuturEnergy sell the Controller seperately and have said that it will work with almost any PMG and that they are happy to discuss any needs if anybody wants to use their Controller seperately on any other make of Turbine and output. The Controler will convert to 24v or 48v output from its system settings.
Hope this is helpful to folks looking for a wind turbine controller solution.