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Connectivism in Second Life Cohort
Tuesday, September 9, 2008
In Attendance: Fleep Tuque, Chimera Cosmos, Wainbrave Bernal, Olando7 Decosta, Kita Coage, Alice Burgess, Jeff Kurka, Sail Wozniak, Graham Mills, Margarette Fouroux, Rudi Rieko, Barrsey Barbosa, Conaway Bing (did I miss anyone?)
Notes: Many people are just getting organized for the course and haven't yet done the first week's readings and/or assignments. We spent the first 25 minutes or so talking about our first impressions of the Connectivism theory, and then moved down to tour the Connectivism Village area.
We're going to catch up on our homework for next week, and then next Tuesday we will spend the first 30 minutes discussing the home work and the second 30 minutes down in Connectivism Village. Graham Mills will give us a demo of the Story Machine and we'll think about what other kinds of things we might like to build or create for the course. Fleep will also put out the home/office buildings for those who need a home base in Second Life. Those who already have a home or office in world are invited to put up signs/landmarks in the booths near the gate of the Village so we can get to know each other's work.
Transcript:
[11:07] Wainbrave Bernal: hi Fleep! long time no see! :)
[11:07] Chimera Cosmos: yea right hehe
[11:07] Fleep Tuque: I just have to tell you guys
[11:07] Fleep Tuque: my heart is so full of love for the SL community right now, I couldn't put it into words if I tried.
[11:08] Chimera Cosmos: we rock :-)
[11:08] Alice Burgess: it was a really wonderful experience
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: If I ever doubted what a wonderful thing this platform enables..
[11:08] Olando7 Decosta: :))
[11:08] Kita Coage: :)
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: Tampa was magical. :)
[11:08] John2 Kepler: Sorry, but I have to leave for a while.
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: But!
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: We're here to talk about the Connectivism course!
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: I must confess I have STILL not done the first homework assignment!
[11:08] Olando7 Decosta: which will be magical as well!
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: Who here has? :)
[11:09] Wainbrave Bernal: and connectivism could amp up some love too
[11:09] Olando7 Decosta: whch was that assigment
[11:09] Olando7 Decosta: reading?
[11:09] Chimera Cosmos: me either hehe
[11:09] Fleep Tuque: Yes actually that was one of the things I was hoping we could talk about, I'm not even sure I'm reading all the right things!
[11:09] Chimera Cosmos: got home too lare
[11:09] Chimera Cosmos: late
[11:09] Alice Burgess: is there a cricket chirp sound I could play?
[11:09] Alice Burgess: :)
[11:09] Fleep Tuque: laugh!!!!
[11:09] Olando7 Decosta: I have been reading the first week stuff
[11:09] Kita Coage: I'm trying to figure out what I want to focus on - what I want from this ...
[11:09] Fleep Tuque: Ok so lets throw up web on a prim and see if we can find the right spot. :)
[11:10] Fleep Tuque: Anyone want to find the URL for where the homework is posted while I drag up the screen?
[11:10] Olando7 Decosta: ok
[11:10] Jeff Kurka: http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/connectivism/
[11:10] Jeff Kurka: I think that is it
[11:10] Fleep Tuque: Awesome thanks Jeff
[11:11] Fleep Tuque: Ok if you hit play on your movie player
[11:11] Fleep Tuque: or looks like a newspaper in the new client, lower right corner
[11:11] Chimera Cosmos: http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/wiki/Connectivism_Outline
[11:12] Fleep Tuque: So this is the blog
[11:12] Fleep Tuque: I haven't even logged into the Moodle yet!
[11:12] Olando7 Decosta: there is also the audio file posted yesterday i believe
[11:12] Fleep Tuque: nod yes sadly in a format we can't stream in world
[11:13] Fleep Tuque: Ok and there's the course outline
[11:13] Olando7 Decosta: but after the reading and listening I am not yet really satisfied
[11:13] Chimera Cosmos: I don't hear anything at all--is anyone on voice?
[11:13] Margarette Fouroux: oh sure
[11:13] Fleep Tuque: Do we want to use voice for these meetings?
[11:13] Chimera Cosmos: You recommended it, right Fleep?
[11:14] Olando7 Decosta: for me that is ok
[11:14] Jeff Kurka: I am good with voice
[11:14] Wainbrave Bernal: what are you disatisfied with, Olando?
[11:14] Chimera Cosmos: hello
[11:14] Wainbrave Bernal: bonjour
[11:14] Kita Coage: I have people in the room ... and tv, kids
[11:14] Chimera Cosmos: Kita, use headset and it's OK
[11:14] Chimera Cosmos: otherwise not
[11:14] Fleep Tuque: I could hear someone say hello but the new client isn't detecting my mic
[11:14] Fleep Tuque: I'd have to reboot
[11:15] Chimera Cosmos: I had to go into device setup
[11:15] Fleep Tuque: Lets stick with text for this first meeting
[11:15] Kita Coage: yes, I got my head set on
[11:15] Chimera Cosmos: in Voice
[11:15] Kita Coage: always :)
[11:15] Fleep Tuque: so we have a full transcript
[11:15] Chimera Cosmos: cool
[11:15] Fleep Tuque: and then if everyone wants to move to voice for next time, we can
[11:15] Wainbrave Bernal: in the future, if we use headsets
[11:15] Chimera Cosmos: we should try to record the sound, yes?
[11:15] Olando7 Decosta: well it sounds interesting but it remains a very academic exercise
[11:15] Wainbrave Bernal: someone could volunteer to keep notes for the record through chat
[11:15] Fleep Tuque: Maybe you can summarize for us what you took from it Olando?
[11:16] Fleep Tuque: I haven't watched or read anything in the last week!
[11:16] Fleep Tuque: Olando says: Not sure if I can summarize, it has many aspects
[11:16] Fleep Tuque: Olando: It talks about external networks, like facebook, but also the brain structures and the neurons
[11:17] Wainbrave Bernal: compared to?
[11:17] Fleep Tuque: Olando: Interesting to compare the external networks to the brain structures, but not very clear in what extent those things can be compared
[11:17] Chimera Cosmos: Orlando, have you followed their body of work over the years? It's hard if not--so much history
[11:17] Fleep Tuque: Olando: The texts I've been reading refer to texts we haven't read
[11:17] Wainbrave Bernal: camps of psychology
[11:17] Fleep Tuque: Olando: There is a lot of discussion between Connectivism, behaviorism and constructivism
[11:17] Kita Coage: ups lost voice
[11:18] Fleep Tuque: Olando: I remember behaviorism from school but..
[11:18] Fleep Tuque: Olando: Constructivism vs behaviorism, and now we have connectivism
[11:18] Fleep Tuque: Olando: Academic exercise of trying to see if connectivism is a new concept or just a new framing of existing ones.. (I am paraphrasing)
[11:18] Chimera Cosmos: the MIT media lab guy...
[11:19] Chimera Cosmos: from the 80s and 90s
[11:19] Chimera Cosmos: lost his name in brain freeze :-)
[11:19] Fleep Tuque: Other have thoughts on this as an initial foray?
[11:19] Fleep Tuque: Thanks Olando!
[11:19] Fleep Tuque: I think for MY part, I am still gaining a solid understanding of the concepts that came before and adding connectivism to the mix has somewhat confused me
[11:19] Wainbrave Bernal: so it sounds like theoretical positioning
[11:20] Fleep Tuque: Trying to understand the boundaries betweeh these theoretical frames, where they overlap and differ
[11:20] Olando7 Decosta: yes it seems so
[11:20] Fleep Tuque: Yep can hear you!
[11:20] Kita Coage: yes
[11:21] Jeff Kurka: Chimera...I think you are refering to Henry Jenkins
[11:21] Wainbrave Bernal: the focus of behaviorism is on the external measures that you can empirically demonstreate
[11:21] Fleep Tuque: Chimera sez: Had an interesting discussion with ? from Denmark, her adviser said oof.. there's a feeling in the hard core educational research community, that is.. anti (?) this idea?
[11:21] Jeff Kurka: ok
[11:21] Wainbrave Bernal: the focus of cognition is on the thinking inside the individual, uh, cognition
[11:21] Wainbrave Bernal: and connectivism on the social interconnections and memes
[11:21] Fleep Tuque: Olando: Behavioralism is individual behavior and connectivism more useful for analyzing learning of institutions, networks, structures composed by human beings AND technology - a larger concept
[11:23] Fleep Tuque: (I'm trying to briefly summarize what people are saying in voice)
[11:23] Chimera Cosmos: social learning vs individual learning
[11:23] Fleep Tuque: Olando: Overload of information that is developing very fast that an organization has to think hard about how to organize the learning processes within the organization, but these first texts are introductory and don't go further yet.. we all know there is a tremendous amount of info, nothing new in that, but they claim somehow that by thinking this connectivism we will see more clearly more practical .. problems? applications? missed that.
[11:23] Fleep Tuque: Yes, I think this is confusing to dive into
[11:23] Wainbrave Bernal: there's a lot of borrowed ideas from organizational learning
[11:24] Fleep Tuque: I hope that, or think that, there's a possibility that we can to some extent try to LIVE this theory throughout this course.
[11:24] Chimera Cosmos: yes, so much history and so many divergent points of view
[11:24] Olando7 Decosta: yes indeed I guess connectivism deals with organisations as learning entities
[11:24] Chimera Cosmos: and so many theories of learning :-)
[11:24] Fleep Tuque: That by forming this network amonst ourselves, a sub network if you will of the larger connectivism course,
[11:24] Fleep Tuque: that we can see how well this theory explains or guides our own experiences.
[11:24] Wainbrave Bernal: organizational psychology has a lot of blended disciplinary camps
[11:25] Olando7 Decosta: I guess what we do here will illustrate the theory if a theroy it can be called
[11:25] Chimera Cosmos: yes, maybe more so than educational and regular psych
[11:25] Fleep Tuque: Interdisciplinary is good! But a little bewildering for a newcomer without a solid theoretical background
[11:25] Fleep Tuque: One thing I wanted to mention
[11:25] Fleep Tuque: we should all friend each other!
[11:25] Olando7 Decosta: there is one great text summarzing the different positions I will try to find it
[11:25] Wainbrave Bernal: fuzzy theory is ok by me, for most purposes, though empirical and formal theory is also important
[11:25] Chimera Cosmos: yes Fleep--I spent parts of the last six years on this, and still it is unclear lol
[11:25] Jeff Kurka: These connections are leveling the hierachy found in the organizations.
[11:26] Graham Mills: There is the original Siemens paper?
[11:26] Jeff Kurka: Forcing them to rethink...who is important or holds tacit knowledge.
[11:26] Wainbrave Bernal: remember the difference between a theory and a "Scientific Theory" too - that conflation and confusion is often subject to much dissonance amongst folks
[11:26] Graham Mills: (sorry, I can't hear anyone and only Fleep has rezzed)
[11:26] Fleep Tuque nods.
[11:26] Chimera Cosmos: no one is talking :-)
[11:26] Wainbrave Bernal: Hi Graham!
[11:27] Fleep Tuque: I think the part of the theory that at first blush was so interesting to me
[11:27] Chimera Cosmos: we must be shy hehe
[11:27] Fleep Tuque: was the concept of knowledge that exists WITHIN THE NETWORK itself
[11:27] Fleep Tuque: As in not in our individual brains
[11:27] Kita Coage: I'm listening :)
[11:27] Fleep Tuque: but either in a database or wiki
[11:27] Fleep Tuque: or in .. what our collective understanding?
[11:28] Fleep Tuque: That through technology our "knowledge" is increasingly externalized and _dynamic_, not static as in books or scrolls.
[11:28] Chimera Cosmos: Fleep, would you say that George and Stephen are part of the edtech community?
[11:28] Fleep Tuque: But that concept gets hard for me to wrap my head around.
[11:28] Fleep Tuque: Hmm. I don't know! I guess so?
[11:28] Jeff Kurka: Yes they are part of the ed tech community
[11:28] Fleep Tuque: I don't know who or what the ed tech community is. I don't know if I feel a part of it?
[11:28] Fleep Tuque: Do you?
[11:29] Graham Mills: I have two (not very relevant) thoughts: (i) that I need to externalise some of this in the form of a build, (ii) that I will never get round to reading all this stuff so we should share the work
[11:29] Chimera Cosmos: I don't--I don't have the background and expertise
[11:29] Fleep Tuque: rofl!
[11:29] Chimera Cosmos: but I have followed experts within it for years
[11:29] Chimera Cosmos: starting with CDB Barkley
[11:29] Chimera Cosmos: in the 90s
[11:29] Wainbrave Bernal: ha ha! good points, VERY relevant and "here! Here!" to Graham
[11:29] Fleep Tuque: Graham - yes I agree, I am hoping that as a result of our .. learning experiences, I'd love to see us create some kind of build in Second Life that externalizes what we think/know/feel as a result of this
[11:30] Fleep Tuque: There's a note somewhere about the ability to turn in homework assignments in multiple formats
[11:30] Fleep Tuque: I think Second Life builds would be accepted. :)
[11:30] Wainbrave Bernal: the concept mapper might be a good tool to incorporate - that connects ideas / people
[11:30] Fleep Tuque: Group projects/collaborative building would be fun!
[11:30] Graham Mills: And connectivist?
[11:30] Fleep Tuque: Indeed. :)
[11:30] Graham Mills: Live the theory :)
[11:31] Jeff Kurka: Do we have some here that are in the course for credit?
[11:31] Chimera Cosmos: CDB signed up for this--I wonder if he will come to our discussions
[11:31] Olando7 Decosta: not me
[11:31] Graham Mills: Nope
[11:31] Chimera Cosmos: nor me
[11:31] Fleep Tuque: Not me
[11:31] Sail Wozniak: no
[11:31] Margarette Fouroux: no
[11:31] Fleep Tuque: I think most of us are in the voluntary group
[11:31] Kita Coage: I will try to join the best I can: its hard to follow the language at times, so constructive thinking takes a while, hope you forgive me for being slow at times
[11:31] Jeff Kurka: looks that way
[11:31] Fleep Tuque: They only accepted 30 or so I thought for the "for credit" componentt.
[11:31] Fleep Tuque: It's ok Kita!
[11:31] Chimera Cosmos: realistic :-0
[11:31] Graham Mills: @KIta, I agree
[11:31] Fleep Tuque: I think this is hard thinking in any language. :)
[11:31] Margarette Fouroux: me too!
[11:32] Fleep Tuque: Please feel free to ask us to repeat or go slower or explain better whenever necessary.
[11:32] Fleep Tuque: It will ultimately help everyone. :)
[11:32] Kita Coage: I'll friend you on that Graham :)
[11:32] Kita Coage: thanks for your understanding
[11:32] Fleep Tuque: I think I feel very unprepared at this moment, having not done the first readings/video
[11:32] Graham Mills: Yup
[11:32] Fleep Tuque: So I can't contribute much to a full discussion.
[11:33] Fleep Tuque: And it sounds as if others are catching up too
[11:33] Graham Mills: I think I'm tired after SLEDcc even tho I wasn't there
[11:33] Fleep Tuque: So perhaps we can take the rest of the time to talk about the mechanics of how we want the in world part to work?
[11:33] Graham Mills: Must be catching
[11:33] Fleep Tuque: (laugh yes I am _exhausted_ but buzzed post SLEDcc)
[11:33] Olando7 Decosta: yes Fleep good idea
[11:33] Wainbrave Bernal: a plot of shared land for a "sandbox" for us would be a good start
[11:33] Jeff Kurka: I like that too Fleep
[11:34] Fleep Tuque: Let's take a quick vote - voice or text for future meetings?
[11:34] Kita Coage: good idea - are there any of you in here on credits?
[11:34] Fleep Tuque: I vote voice, with text backchat.
[11:34] Wainbrave Bernal: I concur w/Fleep
[11:34] Graham Mills: I have a preference for text -- more pithy
[11:34] Olando7 Decosta: Voice with text backchat
[11:34] Sail Wozniak: voice
[11:34] Wainbrave Bernal: can anyone NOT participate in vox?
[11:34] Kita Coage: voice with text sounds good
[11:34] Wainbrave Bernal: we don't want to be exclusionary
[11:35] Fleep Tuque nods.
[11:35] Graham Mills: For some reason, me at the moment
[11:35] Margarette Fouroux: voice
[11:35] Jeff Kurka: I believe we can have better interaction with voice.
[11:35] Kita Coage: I dont have vox
[11:35] Graham Mills: But I am happy to spend these sessions building
[11:35] Olando7 Decosta: there is always the risk next time someone won't be able to use voice
[11:35] Chimera Cosmos: voice with backchat
[11:35] Conaway Bing: voice
[11:35] Jeff Kurka: can you hear voice Graham?
[11:35] Alice Burgess: text
[11:35] Graham Mills: Normally
[11:35] Graham Mills: I may try a relog
[11:35] Fleep Tuque: Ok, I think at the beginning of each meeting we should ask someone to be a note taker for the wiki at http://chilbo.wikispaces.com/SLCohortMeetingsTranscripts
[11:35] Jeff Kurka: well if there is a back channel of text then that could still work
[11:35] Graham Mills: I have severe lag
[11:35] Fleep Tuque: I'll do it for this first time
[11:36] Chimera Cosmos: what about a podcast recording of the voice?
[11:36] Fleep Tuque: but I'd like it to be a travelling responsibility. :)
[11:36] Olando7 Decosta: yes sure Fleep
[11:36] Fleep Tuque: Does anyone know how to record audio from in world?
[11:36] Chimera Cosmos: Mali Young talked about doing that in her class, but I need to review how :-0
[11:36] Fleep Tuque: I'm not sure I do.
[11:36] Jeff Kurka: Mali Young does!
[11:36] Chimera Cosmos: she did it for her Construction Junction class
[11:36] Fleep Tuque: rofl!
[11:37] Fleep Tuque: Jeff or Chimera, do you want to follow up with mali and get some tips?
[11:37] Chimera Cosmos: we can both learn and be backups hehe
[11:37] Jeff Kurka: ok
[11:37] Chimera Cosmos: for each other
[11:37] Wainbrave Bernal: and to take advantage of the connectivist possiblities of SL, we should try to rez things from our inventory inworld to demo / illustrate our points and build on ideas ad nauseum (i.e. till we puke)
[11:37] Fleep Tuque nods.
[11:37] Jeff Kurka: we will see her later today
[11:37] Fleep Tuque: Good point Wainbrave
[11:37] Fleep Tuque: Do you all have the slurl handy for the Connectivism Village?
[11:37] Chimera Cosmos: Yes, there is an open house of what we built today at 3 PM SLT
[11:38] Chimera Cosmos: (and I'm not ready lol)
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: We could take a TP down there and see the area
[11:38] Olando7 Decosta: no
[11:38] Olando7 Decosta: what is the slurl
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: So you can get a sense of the dimensions
[11:38] Wainbrave Bernal: that would be awesome!
[11:38] Kita Coage: sounds great :)
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Madhupak/24/81/65
[11:38] Jeff Kurka: road trip!!
[11:38] Olando7 Decosta: tnx
[11:38] Chimera Cosmos: kk
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: OK, meet everyone there!
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: :)
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: Just holler if you need a TP!
[11:39] Fleep Tuque: Woops
[11:39] Fleep Tuque: some gargbage left over here
[11:39] Fleep Tuque: So what I was thinking is that
[11:39] Fleep Tuque: This area inside here
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: For those of us who have n world projects or places
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: we could set up booths to invite participants to see our other projects/work
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: There are some examples leftover from the fair
[11:40] Alice Burgess: ooh, that would be fun
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: Just signs/TPs etc. Low prim
[11:40] Olando7 Decosta: yes
[11:40] Chimera Cosmos: cool--more practice on what Mali taught us :-)
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: just so we can get a sense of who and what we all do
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: We can add as many booths as we need
[11:40] Kita Coage: good idea
[11:41] Fleep Tuque: Out here
[11:41] Fleep Tuque: We have a very large L shaped space
[11:41] Fleep Tuque: That is large and wide open
[11:41] Fleep Tuque: this could be a place to work on projects, assignments.. sandbox
[11:41] Fleep Tuque: (I want to put in some sidewalks to define it, haven't gotten a chance to yet!
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: And then WAAAY ove here
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: There is room for some small cottages
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: for those who do not already have a home or office in Second Life
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: we will provide you one. :)
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: And so ultimately this will be like a small village
[11:42] Wainbrave Bernal: could we use a group chat so we don't all have to be within earshot?
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: with homes/offices
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: Good idea Wainbrave
[11:43] Rudi Rieko: If we have a home or office...can we assist others in building theres if needed
[11:43] Wainbrave Bernal: sounds like fun
[11:46] Kita Coage: maybe everyone can do a short presentation on where their from, proffesion
[11:47] Margarette Fouroux: did we change chat windows?
[11:47] Olando7 Decosta: not that i know of
[11:47] Margarette Fouroux: ok.
[11:47] Alice Burgess: Margarette we're in group chat
[11:47] Olando7 Decosta: oh!
[11:47] Kita Coage: oh
[11:47] Kita Coage: ?
[11:47] Wainbrave Bernal: we are?
[11:47] Fleep Tuque: Yes we are using the group chat window
[11:47] Fleep Tuque: the Chilbo group chat
[11:48] Kita Coage: i'm not part of the group yeet I think
[11:48] Wainbrave Bernal: the Chilbo Community Bulding group?
[11:48] Alice Burgess: yes
[11:48] Kita Coage: do I need an invite?
[11:48] Fleep Tuque: Doh anyone else not in the group?
[11:49] Kita Coage: thanks Fleep
[11:49] Jeff Kurka: yes me
[11:49] Graham Mills is in but apparently not of the group
[11:50] Margarette Fouroux: I see some folks have a chilbo connet group. Is that the one?
[11:50] Fleep Tuque: OK does everyone see the group chat now?
[11:50] Olando7 Decosta: yes
[11:50] Conaway Bing: yes
[11:50] Fleep Tuque: Margarette, it's just a role in the regular Chilbo group, which you're already in. :)
[11:50] Olando7 Decosta: but there is much lag in the group chat
[11:50] Sail Wozniak: I am having some technical issues
[11:50] Margarette Fouroux: thanks
[11:51] Margarette Fouroux: I have to go teach. Thank you!!
[11:51] Graham Mills: Bye
[11:51] Margarette Fouroux: bye
[11:51] Alice Burgess: bye
[11:51] Fleep Tuque: Bye Margarette!
[11:51] Fleep Tuque: Sail what problem are you having, how can we help?
[11:51] Graham Mills: lol group chat seems more laggy
[11:52] Sail Wozniak: I think it is my laptop. go ahead
[11:52] Kita Coage: yes the group is laggy
[11:52] Olando7 Decosta: the group is VERY laggy
[11:52] Fleep Tuque: VERY
[11:52] Fleep Tuque: Bummer!
[11:52] Graham Mills: Um, I would like to use my gadget StoryMachine for my building as "eating own dog-food" exercise
[11:52] Kita Coage: lol
[11:52] Fleep Tuque: I think we're all in hearing range
[11:53] Fleep Tuque: Ok Graham
[11:53] Rudi Rieko: cool
[11:53] Olando7 Decosta: the homework is on the mainhub wiki pages
[11:53] Fleep Tuque: Maybe you can demo it for us. :)
[11:53] Graham Mills: But I have Eloise Pasteur's spidergram tool as well
[11:53] Graham Mills: That can be set to group
[11:53] Fleep Tuque: Ok the group chat is breaking down
[11:53] Fleep Tuque: not working for me at all now!
[11:53] Fleep Tuque: Phooey!
[11:54] Fleep Tuque: Ok for Week 1 from the course wiki:
Mon: Recorded presentations and readings will be posted to the email list
Wed: Elluminate discussion 11 am CST: See time zone conversions
Friday: Discussion via USTREAM 11 am CST: See time zone conversion
[11:54] Graham Mills: Sorry Chimera -- group chat too laggy
[11:54] Olando7 Decosta: and we should blog about the course
[11:55] Fleep Tuque: That works out fairly well, the course activities seem to be Monday, Wednesday, Friday, the Second Life cohort is Tues, Thurs, Sunday
[11:55] Olando7 Decosta: using CCK08 as tag
[11:55] Fleep Tuque: so I assume we'll all catch as catch can and participate with whatever works for us on a week by week basis.
[11:55] Olando7 Decosta: yes
[11:55] Jeff Kurka: are we to attend all the SL cohort times or pick one in the week?
[11:55] Fleep Tuque: I think it's up to you, I was assuming most people would just do one
[11:56] Fleep Tuque: I am going to try to facilitate all three
[11:56] Fleep Tuque: because I want to meet everyone!
[11:56] Olando7 Decosta: one per week seems nice, also because of the timezones
[11:56] Graham Mills: http://tidalblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/storymachine-sledcc-and-cck08.html if anyone wants to see StoryMachine
[11:56] Jeff Kurka: will each one cover some of the same issues...or see where they lead?
[11:56] Chimera Cosmos: I want to meet everyone as long as there are not a bazillion lol
[11:56] Fleep Tuque: Which each group posting their notes/transcript/archives for others to see
[11:56] Olando7 Decosta: yes
[11:56] Fleep Tuque: Good question Jeff, I don't intend to impose any sameness
[11:56] Graham Mills: Yes to mass collaboration
[11:56] Fleep Tuque: Maybe each of the three will decide to work differently, I don't know
[11:56] Olando7 Decosta: the best group wins...
[11:57] Fleep Tuque: rofl
[11:57] Olando7 Decosta: ... a storymachine!
[11:57] Fleep Tuque: I am just a student in terms of the course material.
[11:57] Fleep Tuque: :)
[11:57] Fleep Tuque: So learning right along with everyone else
[11:57] Fleep Tuque: Did everyone here friend each other?
[11:57] Rudi Rieko: no
[11:57] Wainbrave Bernal: Graham, the StoryMachine looks awesome
[11:58] Fleep Tuque: So it looks like an hour has passed
[11:58] Chimera Cosmos: no--only one friend :-)
[11:58] Fleep Tuque: how about next Tues, 30 mins of discussion of the homework, then 30 mins down in the village, Graham could give us a demo
[11:58] Graham Mills: Chimera, we are already friends -- how could you forget :P
[11:58] Olando7 Decosta: yes great
[11:58] Fleep Tuque: and we can think about the other things we might want to create?
[11:58] Alice Burgess: In the mean time, we should set something up in the poster area about our work?
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: nod yeah
[11:59] Wainbrave Bernal: kk sounds reasonable
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: If you already have a place/project in Second Life, grab a booth up by the road and decorate with LM givers or whatever signage
[11:59] Alice Burgess: great, becauase I have an exhibit opening tomorrow I want you all to attend :)
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: try to keep to 10-15 prims?
[11:59] Chimera Cosmos: Anyone want to come to Mali Young's class open house between 3-5 PM SLT?
[11:59] Olando7 Decosta: okay!
[11:59] Rudi Rieko: I have an office a friend made...very pink if anyone is interested....
[11:59] Chimera Cosmos: each student had a 1300 sq meter area to develop
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: I have a whole set
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: I'll set out the cottages here shortly
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: :)
[11:59] Olando7 Decosta: okay have to run now
[11:59] Olando7 Decosta: see u all very soon
[12:00] Fleep Tuque: nod yep our hour is up wow that went fast!
[12:00] Graham Mills: Bye :)
[12:00] Wainbrave Bernal: sounds great - thands for facilitating Fleep!
[12:00] Fleep Tuque: Thanks all for coming, really really looking forward to working and learning with you all!!
[12:00] Alice Burgess: so, Fleep, the info about our projects goes in the long skinny area, not here, right?
[12:00] Rudi Rieko: cya orlando
[12:00] Fleep Tuque: Right Alice
[12:00] Alice Burgess: ty for organizing this, fleep!
[12:00] Alice Burgess: ty
[12:00] Chimera Cosmos: Jeff, I guess that's a NO lol
[12:00] Fleep Tuque: Up by the road where the booths are
[12:00] Jeff Kurka: lol
[12:00] Wainbrave Bernal: thanks all.... I'm gonna grab a booth in the Gallery and scoot onto RL office work
[12:00] Chimera Cosmos: but I'll see you there later :-0
[12:00] Kita Coage: I dont know what I got myself into ...
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: Hehe
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: Something fun I hope!
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: And where we all learn. :)
[12:01] Jeff Kurka: yes I will be there later Chimera
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: Bye all!
[12:01] Chimera Cosmos: cya
[12:01] Jeff Kurka: yup
[12:01] Kita Coage: I'm afraid I might be a drag
[12:01] Chimera Cosmos: Dizzy Banjo is doing a tour of the Mexico sims
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: No!
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: Don't be afraid
[12:01] Graham Mills: No
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: :)
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: We're here to help each other. :)
[12:01] Chimera Cosmos: now
[12:01] Jeff Kurka: bye everyone
[12:01] Graham Mills: Absolutely
[12:01] Kita Coage: bye Jeff
[12:01] Sail Wozniak: bye every one
[12:01] Alice Burgess: bye everyone...
[12:01] Rudi Rieko: Kita...I'll help in anyway as soon as I figure out what's goin on ;-)
[12:01] Rudi Rieko: was late to the meeting
[12:02] Rudi Rieko: adios
[12:02] Kita Coage: I'm afraid I will need a lot of it :o
[12:02] Kita Coage: )
[12:02] Graham Mills: :)
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: http://ltc.umanitoba.ca:83/wiki/Connectivism
[12:02] Barrsey Barbosa: Fleep, sorry I was late, I just finished our meetings (Jason from CDA)
[12:02] Rudi Rieko: thanks fleep
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: So I think for now your assignment is to do the assignments on the wiki:
[12:02] Barrsey Barbosa: I will be online earlier next time, looks a good start for the group
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: I think so!
[12:02] Graham Mills: Um, can I try rezzing StoryMachine here temporarily?
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: I'll post the transcript
[12:02] Rudi Rieko: cool
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: Graham can you do it over in the bigger area by the gate?
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: I plan to put the cottages here
[12:03] Fleep Tuque: Over on the other side
[12:03] Graham Mills: Here?
[12:03] Fleep Tuque: Anywhere around here would be good
[12:03] Fleep Tuque: :)
[12:03] Graham Mills: Cool
[12:03] Graham Mills: I think I don't have the right script with me
[12:03] Graham Mills: Back in a sec
[12:03] Fleep Tuque: Let me know if you need any other perms, as long as you have the Chilbo group active
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: you should be all set to do whatever you need
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: Kita, did you want a cottage/house too?
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: Rudi?
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: Or do you guys already have a home in SL?
[12:04] Kita Coage: yes please :)
[12:04] Rudi Rieko: that would be great thank you
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: Excellent. :)
[12:04] Kita Coage: I do have home
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: I'll try to get those set up tonight
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: when I get home from work
[12:04] Kita Coage: maybe I dont need a cottage
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: I'll send something out in email. :)
[12:05] Rudi Rieko: cool
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: It's up to you Kita
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: And now I have to get back to the office!
[12:05] Graham Mills: Bye Fleep
[12:05] Rudi Rieko: adios Fleep
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: Thanks so much for coming, great to meet you!
[12:05] Kita Coage: I guess I dont need one
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: Bye Graham!! Thanks for everything!
[12:05] Kita Coage: thanks
[12:05] Graham Mills: lol, I can't see anything
[12:05] Kita Coage: thank you :)
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: hehe turn on the sun!
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: :0
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: wave!
[12:06] Conaway Bing: great work Thanks
[12:06] Graham Mills: bye
[12:06] Kita Coage: bye
[12:06] Teleport completed from http://slurl.com/secondlife/Madhupak/37/40/64
Tuesday, September 9, 2008
In Attendance: Fleep Tuque, Chimera Cosmos, Wainbrave Bernal, Olando7 Decosta, Kita Coage, Alice Burgess, Jeff Kurka, Sail Wozniak, Graham Mills, Margarette Fouroux, Rudi Rieko, Barrsey Barbosa, Conaway Bing (did I miss anyone?)
Notes: Many people are just getting organized for the course and haven't yet done the first week's readings and/or assignments. We spent the first 25 minutes or so talking about our first impressions of the Connectivism theory, and then moved down to tour the Connectivism Village area.
We're going to catch up on our homework for next week, and then next Tuesday we will spend the first 30 minutes discussing the home work and the second 30 minutes down in Connectivism Village. Graham Mills will give us a demo of the Story Machine and we'll think about what other kinds of things we might like to build or create for the course. Fleep will also put out the home/office buildings for those who need a home base in Second Life. Those who already have a home or office in world are invited to put up signs/landmarks in the booths near the gate of the Village so we can get to know each other's work.
Transcript:
[11:07] Wainbrave Bernal: hi Fleep! long time no see! :)
[11:07] Chimera Cosmos: yea right hehe
[11:07] Fleep Tuque: I just have to tell you guys
[11:07] Fleep Tuque: my heart is so full of love for the SL community right now, I couldn't put it into words if I tried.
[11:08] Chimera Cosmos: we rock :-)
[11:08] Alice Burgess: it was a really wonderful experience
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: If I ever doubted what a wonderful thing this platform enables..
[11:08] Olando7 Decosta: :))
[11:08] Kita Coage: :)
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: Tampa was magical. :)
[11:08] John2 Kepler: Sorry, but I have to leave for a while.
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: But!
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: We're here to talk about the Connectivism course!
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: I must confess I have STILL not done the first homework assignment!
[11:08] Olando7 Decosta: which will be magical as well!
[11:08] Fleep Tuque: Who here has? :)
[11:09] Wainbrave Bernal: and connectivism could amp up some love too
[11:09] Olando7 Decosta: whch was that assigment
[11:09] Olando7 Decosta: reading?
[11:09] Chimera Cosmos: me either hehe
[11:09] Fleep Tuque: Yes actually that was one of the things I was hoping we could talk about, I'm not even sure I'm reading all the right things!
[11:09] Chimera Cosmos: got home too lare
[11:09] Chimera Cosmos: late
[11:09] Alice Burgess: is there a cricket chirp sound I could play?
[11:09] Alice Burgess: :)
[11:09] Fleep Tuque: laugh!!!!
[11:09] Olando7 Decosta: I have been reading the first week stuff
[11:09] Kita Coage: I'm trying to figure out what I want to focus on - what I want from this ...
[11:09] Fleep Tuque: Ok so lets throw up web on a prim and see if we can find the right spot. :)
[11:10] Fleep Tuque: Anyone want to find the URL for where the homework is posted while I drag up the screen?
[11:10] Olando7 Decosta: ok
[11:10] Jeff Kurka: http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/connectivism/
[11:10] Jeff Kurka: I think that is it
[11:10] Fleep Tuque: Awesome thanks Jeff
[11:11] Fleep Tuque: Ok if you hit play on your movie player
[11:11] Fleep Tuque: or looks like a newspaper in the new client, lower right corner
[11:11] Chimera Cosmos: http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/wiki/Connectivism_Outline
[11:12] Fleep Tuque: So this is the blog
[11:12] Fleep Tuque: I haven't even logged into the Moodle yet!
[11:12] Olando7 Decosta: there is also the audio file posted yesterday i believe
[11:12] Fleep Tuque: nod yes sadly in a format we can't stream in world
[11:13] Fleep Tuque: Ok and there's the course outline
[11:13] Olando7 Decosta: but after the reading and listening I am not yet really satisfied
[11:13] Chimera Cosmos: I don't hear anything at all--is anyone on voice?
[11:13] Margarette Fouroux: oh sure
[11:13] Fleep Tuque: Do we want to use voice for these meetings?
[11:13] Chimera Cosmos: You recommended it, right Fleep?
[11:14] Olando7 Decosta: for me that is ok
[11:14] Jeff Kurka: I am good with voice
[11:14] Wainbrave Bernal: what are you disatisfied with, Olando?
[11:14] Chimera Cosmos: hello
[11:14] Wainbrave Bernal: bonjour
[11:14] Kita Coage: I have people in the room ... and tv, kids
[11:14] Chimera Cosmos: Kita, use headset and it's OK
[11:14] Chimera Cosmos: otherwise not
[11:14] Fleep Tuque: I could hear someone say hello but the new client isn't detecting my mic
[11:14] Fleep Tuque: I'd have to reboot
[11:15] Chimera Cosmos: I had to go into device setup
[11:15] Fleep Tuque: Lets stick with text for this first meeting
[11:15] Kita Coage: yes, I got my head set on
[11:15] Chimera Cosmos: in Voice
[11:15] Kita Coage: always :)
[11:15] Fleep Tuque: so we have a full transcript
[11:15] Chimera Cosmos: cool
[11:15] Fleep Tuque: and then if everyone wants to move to voice for next time, we can
[11:15] Wainbrave Bernal: in the future, if we use headsets
[11:15] Chimera Cosmos: we should try to record the sound, yes?
[11:15] Olando7 Decosta: well it sounds interesting but it remains a very academic exercise
[11:15] Wainbrave Bernal: someone could volunteer to keep notes for the record through chat
[11:15] Fleep Tuque: Maybe you can summarize for us what you took from it Olando?
[11:16] Fleep Tuque: I haven't watched or read anything in the last week!
[11:16] Fleep Tuque: Olando says: Not sure if I can summarize, it has many aspects
[11:16] Fleep Tuque: Olando: It talks about external networks, like facebook, but also the brain structures and the neurons
[11:17] Wainbrave Bernal: compared to?
[11:17] Fleep Tuque: Olando: Interesting to compare the external networks to the brain structures, but not very clear in what extent those things can be compared
[11:17] Chimera Cosmos: Orlando, have you followed their body of work over the years? It's hard if not--so much history
[11:17] Fleep Tuque: Olando: The texts I've been reading refer to texts we haven't read
[11:17] Wainbrave Bernal: camps of psychology
[11:17] Fleep Tuque: Olando: There is a lot of discussion between Connectivism, behaviorism and constructivism
[11:17] Kita Coage: ups lost voice
[11:18] Fleep Tuque: Olando: I remember behaviorism from school but..
[11:18] Fleep Tuque: Olando: Constructivism vs behaviorism, and now we have connectivism
[11:18] Fleep Tuque: Olando: Academic exercise of trying to see if connectivism is a new concept or just a new framing of existing ones.. (I am paraphrasing)
[11:18] Chimera Cosmos: the MIT media lab guy...
[11:19] Chimera Cosmos: from the 80s and 90s
[11:19] Chimera Cosmos: lost his name in brain freeze :-)
[11:19] Fleep Tuque: Other have thoughts on this as an initial foray?
[11:19] Fleep Tuque: Thanks Olando!
[11:19] Fleep Tuque: I think for MY part, I am still gaining a solid understanding of the concepts that came before and adding connectivism to the mix has somewhat confused me
[11:19] Wainbrave Bernal: so it sounds like theoretical positioning
[11:20] Fleep Tuque: Trying to understand the boundaries betweeh these theoretical frames, where they overlap and differ
[11:20] Olando7 Decosta: yes it seems so
[11:20] Fleep Tuque: Yep can hear you!
[11:20] Kita Coage: yes
[11:21] Jeff Kurka: Chimera...I think you are refering to Henry Jenkins
[11:21] Wainbrave Bernal: the focus of behaviorism is on the external measures that you can empirically demonstreate
[11:21] Fleep Tuque: Chimera sez: Had an interesting discussion with ? from Denmark, her adviser said oof.. there's a feeling in the hard core educational research community, that is.. anti (?) this idea?
[11:21] Jeff Kurka: ok
[11:21] Wainbrave Bernal: the focus of cognition is on the thinking inside the individual, uh, cognition
[11:21] Wainbrave Bernal: and connectivism on the social interconnections and memes
[11:21] Fleep Tuque: Olando: Behavioralism is individual behavior and connectivism more useful for analyzing learning of institutions, networks, structures composed by human beings AND technology - a larger concept
[11:23] Fleep Tuque: (I'm trying to briefly summarize what people are saying in voice)
[11:23] Chimera Cosmos: social learning vs individual learning
[11:23] Fleep Tuque: Olando: Overload of information that is developing very fast that an organization has to think hard about how to organize the learning processes within the organization, but these first texts are introductory and don't go further yet.. we all know there is a tremendous amount of info, nothing new in that, but they claim somehow that by thinking this connectivism we will see more clearly more practical .. problems? applications? missed that.
[11:23] Fleep Tuque: Yes, I think this is confusing to dive into
[11:23] Wainbrave Bernal: there's a lot of borrowed ideas from organizational learning
[11:24] Fleep Tuque: I hope that, or think that, there's a possibility that we can to some extent try to LIVE this theory throughout this course.
[11:24] Chimera Cosmos: yes, so much history and so many divergent points of view
[11:24] Olando7 Decosta: yes indeed I guess connectivism deals with organisations as learning entities
[11:24] Chimera Cosmos: and so many theories of learning :-)
[11:24] Fleep Tuque: That by forming this network amonst ourselves, a sub network if you will of the larger connectivism course,
[11:24] Fleep Tuque: that we can see how well this theory explains or guides our own experiences.
[11:24] Wainbrave Bernal: organizational psychology has a lot of blended disciplinary camps
[11:25] Olando7 Decosta: I guess what we do here will illustrate the theory if a theroy it can be called
[11:25] Chimera Cosmos: yes, maybe more so than educational and regular psych
[11:25] Fleep Tuque: Interdisciplinary is good! But a little bewildering for a newcomer without a solid theoretical background
[11:25] Fleep Tuque: One thing I wanted to mention
[11:25] Fleep Tuque: we should all friend each other!
[11:25] Olando7 Decosta: there is one great text summarzing the different positions I will try to find it
[11:25] Wainbrave Bernal: fuzzy theory is ok by me, for most purposes, though empirical and formal theory is also important
[11:25] Chimera Cosmos: yes Fleep--I spent parts of the last six years on this, and still it is unclear lol
[11:25] Jeff Kurka: These connections are leveling the hierachy found in the organizations.
[11:26] Graham Mills: There is the original Siemens paper?
[11:26] Jeff Kurka: Forcing them to rethink...who is important or holds tacit knowledge.
[11:26] Wainbrave Bernal: remember the difference between a theory and a "Scientific Theory" too - that conflation and confusion is often subject to much dissonance amongst folks
[11:26] Graham Mills: (sorry, I can't hear anyone and only Fleep has rezzed)
[11:26] Fleep Tuque nods.
[11:26] Chimera Cosmos: no one is talking :-)
[11:26] Wainbrave Bernal: Hi Graham!
[11:27] Fleep Tuque: I think the part of the theory that at first blush was so interesting to me
[11:27] Chimera Cosmos: we must be shy hehe
[11:27] Fleep Tuque: was the concept of knowledge that exists WITHIN THE NETWORK itself
[11:27] Fleep Tuque: As in not in our individual brains
[11:27] Kita Coage: I'm listening :)
[11:27] Fleep Tuque: but either in a database or wiki
[11:27] Fleep Tuque: or in .. what our collective understanding?
[11:28] Fleep Tuque: That through technology our "knowledge" is increasingly externalized and _dynamic_, not static as in books or scrolls.
[11:28] Chimera Cosmos: Fleep, would you say that George and Stephen are part of the edtech community?
[11:28] Fleep Tuque: But that concept gets hard for me to wrap my head around.
[11:28] Fleep Tuque: Hmm. I don't know! I guess so?
[11:28] Jeff Kurka: Yes they are part of the ed tech community
[11:28] Fleep Tuque: I don't know who or what the ed tech community is. I don't know if I feel a part of it?
[11:28] Fleep Tuque: Do you?
[11:29] Graham Mills: I have two (not very relevant) thoughts: (i) that I need to externalise some of this in the form of a build, (ii) that I will never get round to reading all this stuff so we should share the work
[11:29] Chimera Cosmos: I don't--I don't have the background and expertise
[11:29] Fleep Tuque: rofl!
[11:29] Chimera Cosmos: but I have followed experts within it for years
[11:29] Chimera Cosmos: starting with CDB Barkley
[11:29] Chimera Cosmos: in the 90s
[11:29] Wainbrave Bernal: ha ha! good points, VERY relevant and "here! Here!" to Graham
[11:29] Fleep Tuque: Graham - yes I agree, I am hoping that as a result of our .. learning experiences, I'd love to see us create some kind of build in Second Life that externalizes what we think/know/feel as a result of this
[11:30] Fleep Tuque: There's a note somewhere about the ability to turn in homework assignments in multiple formats
[11:30] Fleep Tuque: I think Second Life builds would be accepted. :)
[11:30] Wainbrave Bernal: the concept mapper might be a good tool to incorporate - that connects ideas / people
[11:30] Fleep Tuque: Group projects/collaborative building would be fun!
[11:30] Graham Mills: And connectivist?
[11:30] Fleep Tuque: Indeed. :)
[11:30] Graham Mills: Live the theory :)
[11:31] Jeff Kurka: Do we have some here that are in the course for credit?
[11:31] Chimera Cosmos: CDB signed up for this--I wonder if he will come to our discussions
[11:31] Olando7 Decosta: not me
[11:31] Graham Mills: Nope
[11:31] Chimera Cosmos: nor me
[11:31] Fleep Tuque: Not me
[11:31] Sail Wozniak: no
[11:31] Margarette Fouroux: no
[11:31] Fleep Tuque: I think most of us are in the voluntary group
[11:31] Kita Coage: I will try to join the best I can: its hard to follow the language at times, so constructive thinking takes a while, hope you forgive me for being slow at times
[11:31] Jeff Kurka: looks that way
[11:31] Fleep Tuque: They only accepted 30 or so I thought for the "for credit" componentt.
[11:31] Fleep Tuque: It's ok Kita!
[11:31] Chimera Cosmos: realistic :-0
[11:31] Graham Mills: @KIta, I agree
[11:31] Fleep Tuque: I think this is hard thinking in any language. :)
[11:31] Margarette Fouroux: me too!
[11:32] Fleep Tuque: Please feel free to ask us to repeat or go slower or explain better whenever necessary.
[11:32] Fleep Tuque: It will ultimately help everyone. :)
[11:32] Kita Coage: I'll friend you on that Graham :)
[11:32] Kita Coage: thanks for your understanding
[11:32] Fleep Tuque: I think I feel very unprepared at this moment, having not done the first readings/video
[11:32] Graham Mills: Yup
[11:32] Fleep Tuque: So I can't contribute much to a full discussion.
[11:33] Fleep Tuque: And it sounds as if others are catching up too
[11:33] Graham Mills: I think I'm tired after SLEDcc even tho I wasn't there
[11:33] Fleep Tuque: So perhaps we can take the rest of the time to talk about the mechanics of how we want the in world part to work?
[11:33] Graham Mills: Must be catching
[11:33] Fleep Tuque: (laugh yes I am _exhausted_ but buzzed post SLEDcc)
[11:33] Olando7 Decosta: yes Fleep good idea
[11:33] Wainbrave Bernal: a plot of shared land for a "sandbox" for us would be a good start
[11:33] Jeff Kurka: I like that too Fleep
[11:34] Fleep Tuque: Let's take a quick vote - voice or text for future meetings?
[11:34] Kita Coage: good idea - are there any of you in here on credits?
[11:34] Fleep Tuque: I vote voice, with text backchat.
[11:34] Wainbrave Bernal: I concur w/Fleep
[11:34] Graham Mills: I have a preference for text -- more pithy
[11:34] Olando7 Decosta: Voice with text backchat
[11:34] Sail Wozniak: voice
[11:34] Wainbrave Bernal: can anyone NOT participate in vox?
[11:34] Kita Coage: voice with text sounds good
[11:34] Wainbrave Bernal: we don't want to be exclusionary
[11:35] Fleep Tuque nods.
[11:35] Graham Mills: For some reason, me at the moment
[11:35] Margarette Fouroux: voice
[11:35] Jeff Kurka: I believe we can have better interaction with voice.
[11:35] Kita Coage: I dont have vox
[11:35] Graham Mills: But I am happy to spend these sessions building
[11:35] Olando7 Decosta: there is always the risk next time someone won't be able to use voice
[11:35] Chimera Cosmos: voice with backchat
[11:35] Conaway Bing: voice
[11:35] Jeff Kurka: can you hear voice Graham?
[11:35] Alice Burgess: text
[11:35] Graham Mills: Normally
[11:35] Graham Mills: I may try a relog
[11:35] Fleep Tuque: Ok, I think at the beginning of each meeting we should ask someone to be a note taker for the wiki at http://chilbo.wikispaces.com/SLCohortMeetingsTranscripts
[11:35] Jeff Kurka: well if there is a back channel of text then that could still work
[11:35] Graham Mills: I have severe lag
[11:35] Fleep Tuque: I'll do it for this first time
[11:36] Chimera Cosmos: what about a podcast recording of the voice?
[11:36] Fleep Tuque: but I'd like it to be a travelling responsibility. :)
[11:36] Olando7 Decosta: yes sure Fleep
[11:36] Fleep Tuque: Does anyone know how to record audio from in world?
[11:36] Chimera Cosmos: Mali Young talked about doing that in her class, but I need to review how :-0
[11:36] Fleep Tuque: I'm not sure I do.
[11:36] Jeff Kurka: Mali Young does!
[11:36] Chimera Cosmos: she did it for her Construction Junction class
[11:36] Fleep Tuque: rofl!
[11:37] Fleep Tuque: Jeff or Chimera, do you want to follow up with mali and get some tips?
[11:37] Chimera Cosmos: we can both learn and be backups hehe
[11:37] Jeff Kurka: ok
[11:37] Chimera Cosmos: for each other
[11:37] Wainbrave Bernal: and to take advantage of the connectivist possiblities of SL, we should try to rez things from our inventory inworld to demo / illustrate our points and build on ideas ad nauseum (i.e. till we puke)
[11:37] Fleep Tuque nods.
[11:37] Jeff Kurka: we will see her later today
[11:37] Fleep Tuque: Good point Wainbrave
[11:37] Fleep Tuque: Do you all have the slurl handy for the Connectivism Village?
[11:37] Chimera Cosmos: Yes, there is an open house of what we built today at 3 PM SLT
[11:38] Chimera Cosmos: (and I'm not ready lol)
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: We could take a TP down there and see the area
[11:38] Olando7 Decosta: no
[11:38] Olando7 Decosta: what is the slurl
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: So you can get a sense of the dimensions
[11:38] Wainbrave Bernal: that would be awesome!
[11:38] Kita Coage: sounds great :)
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Madhupak/24/81/65
[11:38] Jeff Kurka: road trip!!
[11:38] Olando7 Decosta: tnx
[11:38] Chimera Cosmos: kk
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: OK, meet everyone there!
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: :)
[11:38] Fleep Tuque: Just holler if you need a TP!
[11:39] Fleep Tuque: Woops
[11:39] Fleep Tuque: some gargbage left over here
[11:39] Fleep Tuque: So what I was thinking is that
[11:39] Fleep Tuque: This area inside here
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: For those of us who have n world projects or places
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: we could set up booths to invite participants to see our other projects/work
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: There are some examples leftover from the fair
[11:40] Alice Burgess: ooh, that would be fun
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: Just signs/TPs etc. Low prim
[11:40] Olando7 Decosta: yes
[11:40] Chimera Cosmos: cool--more practice on what Mali taught us :-)
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: just so we can get a sense of who and what we all do
[11:40] Fleep Tuque: We can add as many booths as we need
[11:40] Kita Coage: good idea
[11:41] Fleep Tuque: Out here
[11:41] Fleep Tuque: We have a very large L shaped space
[11:41] Fleep Tuque: That is large and wide open
[11:41] Fleep Tuque: this could be a place to work on projects, assignments.. sandbox
[11:41] Fleep Tuque: (I want to put in some sidewalks to define it, haven't gotten a chance to yet!
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: And then WAAAY ove here
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: There is room for some small cottages
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: for those who do not already have a home or office in Second Life
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: we will provide you one. :)
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: And so ultimately this will be like a small village
[11:42] Wainbrave Bernal: could we use a group chat so we don't all have to be within earshot?
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: with homes/offices
[11:42] Fleep Tuque: Good idea Wainbrave
[11:43] Rudi Rieko: If we have a home or office...can we assist others in building theres if needed
[11:43] Wainbrave Bernal: sounds like fun
[11:46] Kita Coage: maybe everyone can do a short presentation on where their from, proffesion
[11:47] Margarette Fouroux: did we change chat windows?
[11:47] Olando7 Decosta: not that i know of
[11:47] Margarette Fouroux: ok.
[11:47] Alice Burgess: Margarette we're in group chat
[11:47] Olando7 Decosta: oh!
[11:47] Kita Coage: oh
[11:47] Kita Coage: ?
[11:47] Wainbrave Bernal: we are?
[11:47] Fleep Tuque: Yes we are using the group chat window
[11:47] Fleep Tuque: the Chilbo group chat
[11:48] Kita Coage: i'm not part of the group yeet I think
[11:48] Wainbrave Bernal: the Chilbo Community Bulding group?
[11:48] Alice Burgess: yes
[11:48] Kita Coage: do I need an invite?
[11:48] Fleep Tuque: Doh anyone else not in the group?
[11:49] Kita Coage: thanks Fleep
[11:49] Jeff Kurka: yes me
[11:49] Graham Mills is in but apparently not of the group
[11:50] Margarette Fouroux: I see some folks have a chilbo connet group. Is that the one?
[11:50] Fleep Tuque: OK does everyone see the group chat now?
[11:50] Olando7 Decosta: yes
[11:50] Conaway Bing: yes
[11:50] Fleep Tuque: Margarette, it's just a role in the regular Chilbo group, which you're already in. :)
[11:50] Olando7 Decosta: but there is much lag in the group chat
[11:50] Sail Wozniak: I am having some technical issues
[11:50] Margarette Fouroux: thanks
[11:51] Margarette Fouroux: I have to go teach. Thank you!!
[11:51] Graham Mills: Bye
[11:51] Margarette Fouroux: bye
[11:51] Alice Burgess: bye
[11:51] Fleep Tuque: Bye Margarette!
[11:51] Fleep Tuque: Sail what problem are you having, how can we help?
[11:51] Graham Mills: lol group chat seems more laggy
[11:52] Sail Wozniak: I think it is my laptop. go ahead
[11:52] Kita Coage: yes the group is laggy
[11:52] Olando7 Decosta: the group is VERY laggy
[11:52] Fleep Tuque: VERY
[11:52] Fleep Tuque: Bummer!
[11:52] Graham Mills: Um, I would like to use my gadget StoryMachine for my building as "eating own dog-food" exercise
[11:52] Kita Coage: lol
[11:52] Fleep Tuque: I think we're all in hearing range
[11:53] Fleep Tuque: Ok Graham
[11:53] Rudi Rieko: cool
[11:53] Olando7 Decosta: the homework is on the mainhub wiki pages
[11:53] Fleep Tuque: Maybe you can demo it for us. :)
[11:53] Graham Mills: But I have Eloise Pasteur's spidergram tool as well
[11:53] Graham Mills: That can be set to group
[11:53] Fleep Tuque: Ok the group chat is breaking down
[11:53] Fleep Tuque: not working for me at all now!
[11:53] Fleep Tuque: Phooey!
[11:54] Fleep Tuque: Ok for Week 1 from the course wiki:
Mon: Recorded presentations and readings will be posted to the email list
Wed: Elluminate discussion 11 am CST: See time zone conversions
Friday: Discussion via USTREAM 11 am CST: See time zone conversion
[11:54] Graham Mills: Sorry Chimera -- group chat too laggy
[11:54] Olando7 Decosta: and we should blog about the course
[11:55] Fleep Tuque: That works out fairly well, the course activities seem to be Monday, Wednesday, Friday, the Second Life cohort is Tues, Thurs, Sunday
[11:55] Olando7 Decosta: using CCK08 as tag
[11:55] Fleep Tuque: so I assume we'll all catch as catch can and participate with whatever works for us on a week by week basis.
[11:55] Olando7 Decosta: yes
[11:55] Jeff Kurka: are we to attend all the SL cohort times or pick one in the week?
[11:55] Fleep Tuque: I think it's up to you, I was assuming most people would just do one
[11:56] Fleep Tuque: I am going to try to facilitate all three
[11:56] Fleep Tuque: because I want to meet everyone!
[11:56] Olando7 Decosta: one per week seems nice, also because of the timezones
[11:56] Graham Mills: http://tidalblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/storymachine-sledcc-and-cck08.html if anyone wants to see StoryMachine
[11:56] Jeff Kurka: will each one cover some of the same issues...or see where they lead?
[11:56] Chimera Cosmos: I want to meet everyone as long as there are not a bazillion lol
[11:56] Fleep Tuque: Which each group posting their notes/transcript/archives for others to see
[11:56] Olando7 Decosta: yes
[11:56] Fleep Tuque: Good question Jeff, I don't intend to impose any sameness
[11:56] Graham Mills: Yes to mass collaboration
[11:56] Fleep Tuque: Maybe each of the three will decide to work differently, I don't know
[11:56] Olando7 Decosta: the best group wins...
[11:57] Fleep Tuque: rofl
[11:57] Olando7 Decosta: ... a storymachine!
[11:57] Fleep Tuque: I am just a student in terms of the course material.
[11:57] Fleep Tuque: :)
[11:57] Fleep Tuque: So learning right along with everyone else
[11:57] Fleep Tuque: Did everyone here friend each other?
[11:57] Rudi Rieko: no
[11:57] Wainbrave Bernal: Graham, the StoryMachine looks awesome
[11:58] Fleep Tuque: So it looks like an hour has passed
[11:58] Chimera Cosmos: no--only one friend :-)
[11:58] Fleep Tuque: how about next Tues, 30 mins of discussion of the homework, then 30 mins down in the village, Graham could give us a demo
[11:58] Graham Mills: Chimera, we are already friends -- how could you forget :P
[11:58] Olando7 Decosta: yes great
[11:58] Fleep Tuque: and we can think about the other things we might want to create?
[11:58] Alice Burgess: In the mean time, we should set something up in the poster area about our work?
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: nod yeah
[11:59] Wainbrave Bernal: kk sounds reasonable
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: If you already have a place/project in Second Life, grab a booth up by the road and decorate with LM givers or whatever signage
[11:59] Alice Burgess: great, becauase I have an exhibit opening tomorrow I want you all to attend :)
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: try to keep to 10-15 prims?
[11:59] Chimera Cosmos: Anyone want to come to Mali Young's class open house between 3-5 PM SLT?
[11:59] Olando7 Decosta: okay!
[11:59] Rudi Rieko: I have an office a friend made...very pink if anyone is interested....
[11:59] Chimera Cosmos: each student had a 1300 sq meter area to develop
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: I have a whole set
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: I'll set out the cottages here shortly
[11:59] Fleep Tuque: :)
[11:59] Olando7 Decosta: okay have to run now
[11:59] Olando7 Decosta: see u all very soon
[12:00] Fleep Tuque: nod yep our hour is up wow that went fast!
[12:00] Graham Mills: Bye :)
[12:00] Wainbrave Bernal: sounds great - thands for facilitating Fleep!
[12:00] Fleep Tuque: Thanks all for coming, really really looking forward to working and learning with you all!!
[12:00] Alice Burgess: so, Fleep, the info about our projects goes in the long skinny area, not here, right?
[12:00] Rudi Rieko: cya orlando
[12:00] Fleep Tuque: Right Alice
[12:00] Alice Burgess: ty for organizing this, fleep!
[12:00] Alice Burgess: ty
[12:00] Chimera Cosmos: Jeff, I guess that's a NO lol
[12:00] Fleep Tuque: Up by the road where the booths are
[12:00] Jeff Kurka: lol
[12:00] Wainbrave Bernal: thanks all.... I'm gonna grab a booth in the Gallery and scoot onto RL office work
[12:00] Chimera Cosmos: but I'll see you there later :-0
[12:00] Kita Coage: I dont know what I got myself into ...
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: Hehe
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: Something fun I hope!
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: And where we all learn. :)
[12:01] Jeff Kurka: yes I will be there later Chimera
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: Bye all!
[12:01] Chimera Cosmos: cya
[12:01] Jeff Kurka: yup
[12:01] Kita Coage: I'm afraid I might be a drag
[12:01] Chimera Cosmos: Dizzy Banjo is doing a tour of the Mexico sims
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: No!
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: Don't be afraid
[12:01] Graham Mills: No
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: :)
[12:01] Fleep Tuque: We're here to help each other. :)
[12:01] Chimera Cosmos: now
[12:01] Jeff Kurka: bye everyone
[12:01] Graham Mills: Absolutely
[12:01] Kita Coage: bye Jeff
[12:01] Sail Wozniak: bye every one
[12:01] Alice Burgess: bye everyone...
[12:01] Rudi Rieko: Kita...I'll help in anyway as soon as I figure out what's goin on ;-)
[12:01] Rudi Rieko: was late to the meeting
[12:02] Rudi Rieko: adios
[12:02] Kita Coage: I'm afraid I will need a lot of it :o
[12:02] Kita Coage: )
[12:02] Graham Mills: :)
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: http://ltc.umanitoba.ca:83/wiki/Connectivism
[12:02] Barrsey Barbosa: Fleep, sorry I was late, I just finished our meetings (Jason from CDA)
[12:02] Rudi Rieko: thanks fleep
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: So I think for now your assignment is to do the assignments on the wiki:
[12:02] Barrsey Barbosa: I will be online earlier next time, looks a good start for the group
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: I think so!
[12:02] Graham Mills: Um, can I try rezzing StoryMachine here temporarily?
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: I'll post the transcript
[12:02] Rudi Rieko: cool
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: Graham can you do it over in the bigger area by the gate?
[12:02] Fleep Tuque: I plan to put the cottages here
[12:03] Fleep Tuque: Over on the other side
[12:03] Graham Mills: Here?
[12:03] Fleep Tuque: Anywhere around here would be good
[12:03] Fleep Tuque: :)
[12:03] Graham Mills: Cool
[12:03] Graham Mills: I think I don't have the right script with me
[12:03] Graham Mills: Back in a sec
[12:03] Fleep Tuque: Let me know if you need any other perms, as long as you have the Chilbo group active
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: you should be all set to do whatever you need
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: Kita, did you want a cottage/house too?
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: Rudi?
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: Or do you guys already have a home in SL?
[12:04] Kita Coage: yes please :)
[12:04] Rudi Rieko: that would be great thank you
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: Excellent. :)
[12:04] Kita Coage: I do have home
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: I'll try to get those set up tonight
[12:04] Fleep Tuque: when I get home from work
[12:04] Kita Coage: maybe I dont need a cottage
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: I'll send something out in email. :)
[12:05] Rudi Rieko: cool
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: It's up to you Kita
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: And now I have to get back to the office!
[12:05] Graham Mills: Bye Fleep
[12:05] Rudi Rieko: adios Fleep
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: Thanks so much for coming, great to meet you!
[12:05] Kita Coage: I guess I dont need one
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: Bye Graham!! Thanks for everything!
[12:05] Kita Coage: thanks
[12:05] Graham Mills: lol, I can't see anything
[12:05] Kita Coage: thank you :)
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: hehe turn on the sun!
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: :0
[12:05] Fleep Tuque: wave!
[12:06] Conaway Bing: great work Thanks
[12:06] Graham Mills: bye
[12:06] Kita Coage: bye
[12:06] Teleport completed from http://slurl.com/secondlife/Madhupak/37/40/64
Mariis Mills
Sep 10, 2008, 1:51:02 PM9/10/08
to CCK08SL - Connectivism in Second Life Cohort
Sorry I missed the meeting, but I was (and still am!) jetlagged from
the trip back to Denmark .. I'll see you next week :-)
/Mariis
On Sep 9, 9:30 pm, Fleep <fleep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Connectivism in Second Life Cohort*
> Tuesday, September 9, 2008
>
> *In Attendance:* Fleep Tuque, Chimera Cosmos, Wainbrave Bernal, Olando7
> ask someone to be a note taker for the wiki athttp://chilbo.wikispaces.com/SLCohortMeetingsTranscripts
the trip back to Denmark .. I'll see you next week :-)
/Mariis
On Sep 9, 9:30 pm, Fleep <fleep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Connectivism in Second Life Cohort*
> Tuesday, September 9, 2008
>
> *In Attendance:* Fleep Tuque, Chimera Cosmos, Wainbrave Bernal, Olando7
> Decosta, Kita Coage, Alice Burgess, Jeff Kurka, Sail Wozniak, Graham Mills,
> Margarette Fouroux, Rudi Rieko, Barrsey Barbosa, Conaway Bing (did I miss
> anyone?)
>
> *Notes:* Many people are just getting organized for the course and haven't
> Margarette Fouroux, Rudi Rieko, Barrsey Barbosa, Conaway Bing (did I miss
> anyone?)
>
> yet done the first week's readings and/or assignments. We spent the first 25
> minutes or so talking about our first impressions of the Connectivism
> theory, and then moved down to tour the Connectivism Village area.
>
> We're going to catch up on our homework for next week, and then next Tuesday
> we will spend the first 30 minutes discussing the home work and the second
> 30 minutes down in Connectivism Village. Graham Mills will give us a demo of
> the Story Machine and we'll think about what other kinds of things we might
> like to build or create for the course. Fleep will also put out the
> home/office buildings for those who need a home base in Second Life. Those
> who already have a home or office in world are invited to put up
> signs/landmarks in the booths near the gate of the Village so we can get to
> know each other's work.
>
> *Transcript:*
> minutes or so talking about our first impressions of the Connectivism
> theory, and then moved down to tour the Connectivism Village area.
>
> We're going to catch up on our homework for next week, and then next Tuesday
> we will spend the first 30 minutes discussing the home work and the second
> 30 minutes down in Connectivism Village. Graham Mills will give us a demo of
> the Story Machine and we'll think about what other kinds of things we might
> like to build or create for the course. Fleep will also put out the
> home/office buildings for those who need a home base in Second Life. Those
> who already have a home or office in world are invited to put up
> signs/landmarks in the booths near the gate of the Village so we can get to
> know each other's work.
>
Cathy Arreguin
Sep 16, 2008, 11:49:07 AM9/16/08
to connect...@googlegroups.com
Hi Fleep,
In spite of my best intentions, the Connectivism course is just NOT working out for me! Just letting you know that I've made the decision to drop out. :-(
Looking forward to hearing what develops, though! Thanks for your work and leadership in this.
Cathy
(Cathy Arreguin / Mari Asturias)
In spite of my best intentions, the Connectivism course is just NOT working out for me! Just letting you know that I've made the decision to drop out. :-(
Looking forward to hearing what develops, though! Thanks for your work and leadership in this.
Cathy
(Cathy Arreguin / Mari Asturias)
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