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Red

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Jun 23, 2008, 1:27:50 PM6/23/08
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We could use Meetup (www.meetup.com) to organize regional meetings for
participants who wish to exchange f2f on a more personal level or on a
specific topic.

Peter

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Jun 23, 2008, 6:20:01 PM6/23/08
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If this meetup idea gets accepted I'll set one up for Vancouver
Canada...

Peter

doris3m

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Jun 24, 2008, 7:22:56 AM6/24/08
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Hello, Red and everyone.....I could set up one for Maracaibo,
Venezuela. Looking forward to sharing and learning... being
connected...

Keep on shining!

Daniel Staemmler

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Jun 24, 2008, 7:52:16 AM6/24/08
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Hi Red,

I would be more than happy to set one up in Hamburg, Germany if there
are other participants in the area.

Cheers, Daniel

Red

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Jun 24, 2008, 8:09:03 AM6/24/08
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And I can start one up in Kingston, Canada. How will you tag your
meeting up groups?
Red

George Siemens

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Jun 24, 2008, 10:11:41 AM6/24/08
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Hi all - these meetup groups sound like a great idea. Adding the face-to-face dimension will add significantly to the value of the learning experience in the course. Perhaps we can also plan meetups for those attending f2f conferences during the duration of the course (fall seems to be a busy conference season - at least in north america)...

For the tag, how about we use the same as we intend to use for the other parts of the conference: CCK08 . If you tag your del.icio.us resources, meetups, etc. with that tag, we'll aggregate them here: http://www.pageflakes.com/ltc

George


On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Red <louis...@rmc.ca> wrote:

And I can start one up in Kingston, Canada. How will you tag your
meeting up groups?
Red




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voyager

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Jun 24, 2008, 5:58:48 PM6/24/08
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Hi,

Sounds like a great idea. I could set one up for Brisbane, Australia.

Barbara Dieu

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Jun 24, 2008, 6:59:46 PM6/24/08
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and I can set up one in Sao Paulo, Brazil. Is there a model you follow? Like an unconference/barcamp sort of meeting?
Warm regards ,
Bee

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Derek Chirnside

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Jun 24, 2008, 7:42:45 PM6/24/08
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I'll do Christchurch or New Zealand.

Bee: love the idea of an unconference.  :-)

And George: hanging a meetup off a conference is good.  I'll check the two possibilities here, DEANZ and the Moodle Moot.  They may be just a little early though.

Yes, I think we can handle unconferences and conferences in the same thought.

Never heard of meetup.com before.
Just checked . . .  looks good.  Any suggestions from current users may be useful.

I'll post more later.  Much as some of my buddies dislike logins, in terms of inclusion and lowering psychic barriers for some users we may also need a nice quiet, comfortable, closed home base from which to make our excursions. (It will be interesting to see who is showing up??)

-Derek

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Barbara Dieu

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Jun 24, 2008, 7:48:46 PM6/24/08
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Hi George and all,
It would be great if we could have a specific "place online" where we could gather the impressions, questions and main points that emerged during these meetups so as to gain an insight to the local contexts/cultural reactions to the different topics discussed :-)
What do you think?
Warm regards from Brazil,

lawrie....@googlemail.com

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Jun 25, 2008, 3:08:59 PM6/25/08
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Hi George,
I'm not keen on too much structure, but it occurs to me that these
meetups are quite powerful and could yeild some interesting data. How
about setting a few structured questions that will contribute to the
wider debate, I'd be willing (work permitting) get something going in
the UK and also report back.
Lawrie

On Jun 24, 3:11 pm, "George Siemens" <gsiem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all - these meetup groups sound like a great idea. Adding the
> face-to-face dimension will add significantly to the value of the learning
> experience in the course. Perhaps we can also plan meetups for those
> attending f2f conferences during the duration of the course (fall seems to
> be a busy conference season - at least in north america)...
>
> For the tag, how about we use the same as we intend to use for the other
> parts of the conference: CCK08 . If you tag your del.icio.us resources,
> meetups, etc. with that tag, we'll aggregate them here:http://www.pageflakes.com/ltc
>
> George
>

George Siemens

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Jun 25, 2008, 4:17:08 PM6/25/08
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Hi Bee,

We've set up a moodle discussion forum - perhaps we can do our meetup organizing there?: http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/moodle/mod/forum/view.php?id=153

Or, I'm wondering if it's best to do in a wiki...The wiki we've set up for the course is open for anyone to create an account and make changes: http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/wiki/Connectivism . Perhaps we could have someone setup a connectivism meetup page and list their city/town/location...

As far as capturing and sharing the discussions at meetups, I would again suggest the wiki :).

Other suggestions?

George

George Siemens

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Jun 25, 2008, 4:26:15 PM6/25/08
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Hi Derek,

We'll be posting an attendr map coming up to the conference so participants will have a better understanding of where others are located. You make an important point about logins. That will be a hassle. In a perfect world, we would have the same login for the attendr course, google groups, moodle, wiki, blog, and so on. And the data would then be integrated - i.e. you could click on a profile in attendr and see where their profile in moodle (or moodle and see their location and connections in attendr). In an even more perfect world, we could also visualize the nature of conversations (word maps) and connections formed based on interactions (social network analysis). Those aspects, however, will not be attended to in this course. Next time, right?

George

George Siemens

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Jun 25, 2008, 4:29:32 PM6/25/08
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Hi Lawrie

Hi George,
I'm not keen on too much structure, but it occurs to me that these
meetups are quite powerful and could yeild some interesting data. How
about setting a few structured questions that will contribute to the
wider debate, I'd be willing (work permitting) get something going in
the UK and also report back.
Lawrie


I think the value of people planning local meetups/learning networks and study groups, is the flexibility and manner of organization. As mentioned in a recent blog post, some masters-level courses are seeking to partly integrate their current courses with our open online course. In this instance, a fair degree of structure will be needed. On the other hand, if your someone who is casually interested in watching this course and the ideas discussed, you may find less structure is ideal. I'm hoping we can get the meetups organized in a wiki with general information on how their meeting/communicating, etc. so participants can see what is being done in other areas...

As always, suggestions are most welcomed!

George

Red

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Jun 26, 2008, 7:53:21 AM6/26/08
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Hi Lawrie and George (and everyone)
When I suggested the idea, I had informal meetings in mind. No pre-
determined structure, and open to everyone, including people not
registered in the course. Embedding a meetup page in a course wiki is
perhaps not the best way for the general public to find these
meetings. I would prefer setting up groups in meetup.com and use the
connectivism tag. It woudn't prevent us from posting a summary of the
discussions that took place in these meetings in the course wiki.

I just don't like the idea of limiting access (even indirectly) and
imposing a structure. But it's just me, and I will adapt to whatever
the group (or organizers...) decide.

Red

Barbara Dieu

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Jun 26, 2008, 9:12:21 AM6/26/08
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Hello Red,
Is meetup a free service? I read organizers have to pay to use it and organize meetings.
http://www.meetup.com/help/organize/
If this is the case, why not just use a wiki page where people jot down their names and later collaborate on the ideas? What are the advantages of the meetup tool?
B.

Red

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Jun 26, 2008, 10:55:30 AM6/26/08
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Excellent question.

Yes, there is a fee for maintaining an account. It varies from 12 to
19$ a month, depending on the plan (monthly, 3-month or 6-month). The
organizer (i.e the person who starts the group) is billed, and then
it's up to him or her to charge the group members... or not. How this
is done really depends on the group and the organizer.

The advantage of using meetup for me is more in terms of attracting
'outsiders', i.e. people not registered in the course. These people
will have a tendency - I think, but that's only speculation or
intuition - to go to the meetup website if they are looking for a
group to join rather than doing an internet search. I don't know
enough about the meetup interface to think of other advantages, but
there might be more (e.g. easier tracking of who is planning to
attend?). If anyone out there is already using this tool, can you
please step in?

R.

On Jun 26, 9:12 am, "Barbara Dieu" <beeonl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Red,
> Is meetup a free service? I read organizers have to pay to use it and
> organize meetings.http://www.meetup.com/help/organize/

eRoman

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Jun 26, 2008, 1:49:22 PM6/26/08
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Our study group in Spanish will be more than happy to report the
results of our discussions (in English and Spanish) back to the CCK08
wiki--or to any other platform you decide to use for the regional
meetings reports. For our study group meetings, we are considering
different synchronous options right now. We'll let you know what we
will be using (and invite you to join us) as soon as we make a
decision on that.

Esperanza
Blog: http://elearningxxi.blogspot.com
Newest post tagged CCK08: http://elearningxxi.blogspot.com/2008/06/se-discrimina-el-conocimiento-por.html

playnice_nz

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:59:57 PM7/6/08
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Hi Derek,
Moodle Moot or eFest are good opportunities for the meetup. The eFest
theme this year is Connected education so it could fit nicely with it.
I may suggest to the organizers to have a breakfast discussion what
do you think?
Vasi

On Jun 25, 11:42 am, "Derek Chirnside" <derek.chirns...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I'll do Christchurch or New Zealand.
>
> Bee: love the idea of an unconference.  :-)
>
> And George: hanging a meetup off a conference is good.  I'll check the two
> possibilities here, DEANZ and the Moodle Moot.  They may be just a little
> early though.
>
> Yes, I think we can handle unconferences and conferences in the same
> thought.
>
> Never heard of meetup.com before.
> Just checked . . .  looks good.  Any suggestions from current users may be
> useful.
>
> I'll post more later.  Much as some of my buddies dislike logins, in terms
> of inclusion and lowering psychic barriers for some users we may also need a
> nice quiet, comfortable, closed home base from which to make our excursions.
> (It will be interesting to see who is showing up??)
>
> -Derek
>
> 2008/6/25 Barbara Dieu <beeonl...@gmail.com>:

Jim Lerman

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Jul 13, 2008, 5:53:20 PM7/13/08
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I'm located at Kean University of NJ, which is right near Newark
Airport in the New York city metro area. I'm sure I could organize
some f2f here, or in NYC, if there are some interested people.
Jim Lerman
Kean University

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Jeffrey Keefer

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Jul 14, 2008, 12:33:26 PM7/14/08
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I am in New York City, Jim, so perhaps we can arrange a meetup for
this class?
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D.C. Hess

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Jul 15, 2008, 6:14:21 PM7/15/08
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Is anyone in the Bay Area of California? I'm in Oakland.
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valerie

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Jul 16, 2008, 1:35:35 PM7/16/08
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Yes, I'm in Marin.

Derek Chirnside

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2008/7/7 playnice_nz <vass...@yahoo.com>:


Hi Derek,
Moodle Moot or eFest are good opportunities for the meetup. The eFest
theme this year is Connected education so it could fit nicely with it.
I may suggest to the organizers to  have a breakfast discussion  what
do you think?
Vasi


Vasi - Yes, good idea.
Plus DEANZ.  (Where Nancy White is presenting) (if 'presenting' is the right word)
I will be at DEANZ, hope to be at eFEST but not the Moot - there are others here who need it more.

The schedules:

DEANZ: http://www.deanz.org.nz/conf2008/ 18-20 Aug (Too early)
eFEST: http://www.efest.org.nz/ 8-10 Sept
MOODLE MOOT:http://www.elearning.org.nz/course/view.php?id=47 @#$% [needs a login I think] 8-10 Oct

I thought it was quite nice of ITPNZ to organise an international conference on e-learning in a cool place like Auckland to coincide with the start of this course.  :-)

I will probably phone at some stage Vasi.

-Derek



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