RTI kora

23 views
Skip to first unread message

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jun 22, 2013, 10:49:32 AM6/22/13
to Ranjan Roy, confront...@googlegroups.com
ebar etake nie ektu egono jae ?  

Ranjanda to procedure bolei diechhen.  ei byapare group theke ke ke utsahi ?

On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ranjan Roy <ranj...@gmail.com> wrote:
1.RTI Act,2005 er Section 6 anusaare keu kon sarakaari bibhaager theke kon tathyo jaanate  chaaile sei bibhaager pradhaana ke address kore ekaTi petition , sange 10 Taakaar Bank Draft baa Treasury Chaalan baa non-judicial stamp paper attach kore jamaa diye second copy te acknowledge kariye nite paaren. eTaa bibhaager Je Dak receive kare  se Jadi seal laagiye dey taahaleo habe. eTaa registered post with Ack. due koreo paaThaano Jete paare. Second copy o receipt must be kept carefully.

2. under section 7, maximum 30 days er modhye uttar aasaar kathaa. naa aasale reminder dite habe, aager copy enclose kore. taate aar Taakaa laagabe naa.

3.Under section 8, kichhu kichhu xetre bibhaag uttar dite baadhyo noy. Jemon, Defence er secrecy, personal matter, matter not related to public interest etc.

4.under 11(1), for third party information, "except in the case of trade or commercial secrets protected by law, disclosure may be allowed if the public interest in disclosure outweighs in importance any possible harm or injury to the interests of such third party".

5. Appeal:
under section 19(1), applicant 30 days er modhye reply naa pele, baa reply unsatisfactory hole, reply paaoyaar theke 30 din baa naa paaoyaar nirdhaarit sheshh din theke 30 diner MODHYE, RTI Commissioner (State baa Central, Govt. anusaare) appeal karate paare. 
 Commissioner sei Appeal shune ,on merit, a) applicant ke information without further cost  supply karaar order karate paare; b) Department ke applicant ke compensation debaar kathaa bolate paare.d) Erring officer ke penalise korte paare, e) Appeal reject korte paare.

ei hearing gulor samoy argument karaar jonye applicant hoy nije, noy  anyo kaauke, baa kono lawyer ke employ korate paare.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ConfrontViolence" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to confrontviolen...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to confront...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/confrontviolence.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 12:23:35 PM6/24/13
to Ranjan Roy, confront...@googlegroups.com
karur reply nei. tahole ki dhore nebo, ei eto barho group e keu RTI ba rape watch nie kaj korte agrohi non ?

Minakshi Dutta

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 12:29:13 PM6/24/13
to ipsita pal bhowmick, Ranjan Roy, confrontviolence

Ami in interested. Kintu bideshe boshe RTI file kora jaay kina sei byapare kono idea nei.

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 12:30:41 PM6/24/13
to Minakshi Dutta, Ranjan Roy, confrontviolence
post ta desh thekei habe. seta keu ekta kore debe.

Ranjandar bala steps gulo ektu dekhte habe.  ar kajon utsahi dekha jaak, tahole ekta specific case nie kaj shuru kora jaae.

Minakshi Dutta

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 12:36:05 PM6/24/13
to ipsita pal bhowmick, confrontviolence, Ranjan Roy

OK, keep me posted.

Damayanti

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 1:54:33 PM6/24/13
to Minakshi Dutta, ipsita pal bhowmick, confrontviolence, Ranjan Roy
h amio interested
Damayanti
 
I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a messy bloodbath.

Riten Mitra

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 3:03:28 PM6/24/13
to Damayanti, Minakshi Dutta, ipsita pal bhowmick, confrontviolence, Ranjan Roy
1.  goto tin char  bochhore ghote jawa rape cases gulor khobor compile  kora.  (e.g belghoriar hit and run case).
amake ekhane interneter oporei bhorsha korte hobe.  aar kono bhalo resource  thakle  keu suggest korun.  process ta shuru hole ei cases gulo ekta  shared document e (google docs jatiyo)  upload kora jak. 

2. shudhu rape, na  in general nari nigroher ghotona include kora jabe?

3. specific cases chhara  general info- jemon ei rajye ekhono koto  unsolved  rape cases, serokom kichhu tothyer dabi ki kora jay?
Thanks,
Riten

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 3:51:28 PM6/24/13
to Riten Mitra, Damayanti, Minakshi Dutta, confrontviolence, Ranjan Roy
1. Damayantidi eta shuru korbe ?

2. amar mote kara uchit.

3. haan, eta nieo RTI kora jae.

4. Belghoriar specific case ta nie RTI r process shuru kora hok.

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 3:57:40 PM6/24/13
to confrontviolence
Q's:

1) Third party kibhaabe specific case pick up korbe?

Ranjandar bola clause-er madhye:

Under section 8, kichhu kichhu xetre bibhaag uttar dite baadhyo noy. Jemon, Defence er secrecy, personal matter, matter not related to public interest etc.

4.under 11(1), for third party information, "except in the case of trade or commercial secrets protected by law, disclosure may be allowed if the public interest in disclosure outweighs in importance any possible harm or injury to the interests of such third party".

eta personal matter-er tolaay porte paare, aar public interest dekhaate hobe, victim der approval-o laagte paare. 

2) Lawyer hire korte hobe, fees laagbe. ei logistics gulo kIbhaabe dekhaa hobe? 

Atreyi


44 million women missing in China, 37 million in India, and a total of more than 100 million worldwide.
-Amartya Sen, 1992

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 4:13:19 PM6/24/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, confrontviolence
1. haan , eta thik. personal matter er tolay i korte habe . Ranjanda kal firchhen, uni ei specific case e RTI kora nie ki bolen dekhi. 

2. lawyer lagbe keno ? RTI korte to lagar katha nae.

Samik M

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 4:15:13 PM6/24/13
to confrontviolence
RTI te lawyear laage na.

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 4:44:30 PM6/24/13
to confrontviolence
Lawyer RTI file korte laagbena, public interest dekhaate hole laagte paare aar pore, jeta Ranjanda-r 5 nombor point -

"5. Appeal:
under section 19(1), applicant 30 days er modhye reply naa pele, baa reply unsatisfactory hole, reply paaoyaar theke 30 din baa naa paaoyaar nirdhaarit sheshh din theke 30 diner MODHYE, RTI Commissioner (State baa Central, Govt. anusaare) appeal karate paare. 
 Commissioner sei Appeal shune ,on merit, a) applicant ke information without further cost  supply karaar order karate paare; b) Department ke applicant ke compensation debaar kathaa bolate paare.d) Erring officer ke penalise korte paare, e) Appeal reject korte paare.

ei hearing gulor samoy argument karaar jonye applicant hoy nije, noy  anyo kaauke, baa kono lawyer ke employ korate paare."

-Eitar jonye laagte paare, er jonye aage thekei dekhte hobe, baa karo saathe jogajog korte hobe.

-A

mithu roy

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 8:25:11 PM6/24/13
to confrontviolence
eTaate amio aachhi.








সেথা করে আসা-যাওয়া
নানারঙা মেঘগুলি

mithu

Damayanti

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 10:44:56 PM6/24/13
to mithu roy, confrontviolence
ami emni Word Doc e 1 line kore likhe rakhchilam. kintu bangla khabar khoja ek jhakmari bishesh. 

Sonali Sengupta

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 11:19:19 PM6/24/13
to Damayanti, Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, minakshi.., Samik Mukherjee, mithu roy, confrontviolence
RTI online file kora jay. eikhan theke dekho.

http://www.onlinerti.com/

Samik M

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 11:37:27 PM6/24/13
to Sonali Sengupta, Damayanti, Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, mithu roy, minakshi.., confrontviolence

eta dekhe mone hochhe kono private group er site. RTI korte 10 taka laage. 75 noy. baki takata eder profit. ami online file korle era amar behalf e written aaplication file kore submit kore dey. response sorasori amar kachhe chole aase.

eta kono sorkari site noy. sorkari site .com diye hoy na. eder kono contact us section o nei. fole era jodi amar rti distort kore pathay, aami bodh hoy ter o pabo na.

Sent from Galaxy S-III

Sonali Sengupta

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 11:41:56 PM6/24/13
to Samik M, Damayanti, Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, mithu roy, minakshi.., confrontviolence
hyan. Online RTI direct ekhon obdi shudhu Agriculture ministry te kora jay.
http://www.rtionline.gov.in/

kintu agency r through diye sokolei kore bole jani.

Samik M

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 11:43:56 PM6/24/13
to Sonali Sengupta, Damayanti, Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, mithu roy, minakshi.., confrontviolence

na na temon kichhu noy. ekhane jato lok rti kore sobbai nije nijei kore. Tihar Jail er prisoner ra nijerai RTI kore sorkari document aniye lekhapora kore.

amar babao to nijei RTI korlo.

Sent from Galaxy S-III

Sonali Sengupta

unread,
Jun 24, 2013, 11:51:40 PM6/24/13
to confrontviolence, Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, Damayanti Talukdar, Atreyi Dasgupta, Somnath Roy, mithu roy, minakshi..


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sonali Sengupta <sonali.c...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: {ConfrontViolence} RTI kora
To: Samik M <mukherj...@gmail.com>


Hyan, eta to WB govt e kora hobe?
nije giye korar lokjoner obhab dekhei eta bolchhilam. Na thakle somosya nai.
Ami application(WB Govt) er format attach kore dilam. Ar niche Website

http://www.wbic.gov.in/
Application Format.doc

Ankan

unread,
Jun 25, 2013, 4:00:06 AM6/25/13
to Samik M, Sonali Sengupta, Damayanti, Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, mithu roy, minakshi.., confrontviolence
RTI nijera korai bettr follow up korte subidhe hobe

Sent from Samsung Mobile

Sanjukta

unread,
Jun 25, 2013, 7:40:42 AM6/25/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, confrontviolence
Ei gulote ( RTI file korar porer stage e)  Human Rights Commission er kono  Guidance/Support thake ki ?
 --- Ami ei procedure gulo niye ekebare kichhui janina, jante chaichhi .

Samik M

unread,
Jun 25, 2013, 9:26:06 AM6/25/13
to Sanjukta, Atreyi Dasgupta, confront...@googlegroups.com

na na. human rights er kono byapar nei. eta nitantoi Right To Information Act er follower. NHRC has nothing to do ...

Sent from Galaxy S-III

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jun 25, 2013, 9:35:29 AM6/25/13
to Samik M, Sanjukta, Atreyi Dasgupta, confront...@googlegroups.com
Ranjandar sathe katha hoechhe. uni aaj kolkata  firlen.  belghoriar case tae RTI file kora nie Ranjanda dekhchhen.

Belghoriar case er ei duto report peyechhilam, er pare ar kono report keu peye thakle post korben.

Sanjukta

unread,
Jun 25, 2013, 10:04:17 AM6/25/13
to Samik, Atreyi Dasgupta, confront...@googlegroups.com

Ami lawyer prosonge jante chaichhilam.

Riten Mitra

unread,
Jun 25, 2013, 12:46:51 PM6/25/13
to Sanjukta, Samik, Atreyi Dasgupta, confront...@googlegroups.com
eta anandabazar er link

http://www.anandabazar.com/archive/1120226/26cal2c.html
 oi elakar anushongik somosya,  truck parking etc niye likhechhe dekhlam.

Riten Mitra

unread,
Jun 25, 2013, 12:48:44 PM6/25/13
to Sanjukta, Samik, Atreyi Dasgupta, confront...@googlegroups.com
ager post ta  please ignore korben..
 isi er samne theke  holeo, "jhupribashi" mohila non. eta anya case.
--
Thanks,
Riten

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 3, 2013, 12:46:31 PM7/3/13
to confront...@googlegroups.com
Belghoria r case nie RTI er draft ta attached. mulato Ranjanda ar Debajyotida baniechhen. 
Samik eta file korbe.

sabai ekbar dekhe nie kono motamot thakle dite paren.

draft e ei point ta rakha uchit habe kina seta nie ektu confusion e:

(l) has the government given any compensation to the family of the victim?


eta filing er kaj cholte thakbe, ebar keu jodi anyo kono case nie RTI draft korte chan, to ei chithir format e kore felte paren. ekhane janie dilei habe, ke kon case nie draft korchhen.

                         - Ipsita
RTI-Belghoria draft1.docx

Saikat Bandyopadhyay

unread,
Jul 3, 2013, 3:16:51 PM7/3/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, confrontviolence
eita bhalo hoyechhe. ebare case by case ekta ekta kore kora hok. 

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Jul 3, 2013, 6:03:23 PM7/3/13
to confrontviolence
Jaader case, taader saathe ekbaar kothaa bola uchit baa consult koraa uchit file koraar aage. aar er sathei oi compensation deoyaa hoyechhe kina dile kato, eisab prashno related.
 
echhara -
typographical error - point i) whether all the culprints COULD ...
 
 
Atreyi

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 4, 2013, 2:16:17 AM7/4/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, confrontviolence
Ranjandar sathe katha holo. consult korte lagbena. Ranjanda details e likhben. 

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 6, 2013, 6:13:47 PM7/6/13
to confrontviolence
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ranjan Roy <ranj...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: {ConfrontViolence} RTI kora
To: Ipsita Pal Bhowmick <palbho...@gmail.com>


sari eikhaane lekhaa uchit chhilo. kintu Taiye Details diyechhi.
Sec 6(2) and 8 of RTI Act 2005 theke Quote karechhi. ekaTu dekhe neben.
Ranjan

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 8, 2013, 4:04:39 PM7/8/13
to confrontviolence
Ranjanda eta site e likhechhilen. info ta ekhane thaklo :
Section 6(2) of RTI Act,2005 states:
"An application making request for information shall not be required to give any reason for requesting the information or any other details except those that may be necessary for contacting him".
তাই ধর্ষণের কেসেও কোন তদন্তের প্রগতি জানতে হলে কারো কোন অনুমতির প্রয়োজন আছে বলে মনে হয় না। ধর্ষিতার পরিবারেরও না। আর যেখানে তার সঙ্গে হত্যা বা মৃত্যু জুড়ে গেছে সেখানে তো কথাই নেই।

ধারা ৮(১) অনুযায়ী দশটি গ্রাউন্ডে তথ্য দিতে অস্বীকার করা যেতে পারে। তাতে দেশের সুরক্ষা,ট্রেড সিক্রেট যাতে কোন তৃতীয় পক্ষের ব্যবসায়িক ক্ষতি, বিদেশি রাষ্ট্রের থেকে গোপনীয় সূত্রে পাওয়া খবর, মন্ত্রীসভার বৈঠকের প্রসিডিংস, কোন খবর চাউর হলে কারো প্রাণনাশের বা শারীরিক ক্ষতির আশংকা,, তদন্তের প্রগতির বা অপরাধীকে গ্রেফতার করতে বাধক হবে এমন খবর গোছের কারণ আছে।
কিন্তু ধারা ৮(২) অনুযায়ী a public authority may allow access to information, if public interest in disclosure outweighs the harm to the protected interests.

Saikat Bandyopadhyay

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 11:14:21 AM7/9/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, confrontviolence
amra to publis domain er info jante chaichhi. public interest e. sekhane pemission nebar in general dorkar nei. tobe, khub sensitive hole kono kono case e seta bhaba jete pare. case by case.

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 11:27:03 AM7/9/13
to confrontviolence
Legally prayojan kinaa seniye aami bhaabit noi - legal clause gulo aagei dekhechhi. 

amar kaachhe prayojaniya hachche ultimately ki uddeshy egulo koraa - jodi ei rape-er shikaar jesob mahilaa o taader paribaar, taaderkeo saathe nite chaai, tahale taader case niye RTI korar aage taader saathe jogaajog koraa, tader ke janaano jaruri bole mone hoy. 

Saikat Bandyopadhyay

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 11:33:23 AM7/9/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, confrontviolence
eita, emnitei besh kothin. regular contact kora, consent newa, RTI file kora... lomba process. optional thak na. mane para gele hobe, ei mode e? noile jogajog kore cholata ekta alada kaj hisebe kauke nite hobe. seta khub i chap.

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 11:36:13 AM7/9/13
to Saikat Bandyopadhyay, Atreyi Dasgupta, confrontviolence
Atreyi ki jogajoger dayitwo nite parbe ?

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 11:56:49 AM7/9/13
to confrontviolence
Nah, aamaar pokkhe sambhab habenaa. 

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 11:59:49 AM7/9/13
to confrontviolence
actually aarektu elaborately uttar dii. etaa ekaa ekjon korle hobena, ekaadhik case distribute korte hobe ek baa duijonke. aami ekta case korte paari - kintu amar saathe kolkatar jogajog kom, naam thikana jogaar koraar jonye kagajer lok baa kolkatar lok dorkaar. naam thikana jogaarh hole ekta case jogajog, follow up ityaadi korte paari. 

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 12:03:11 PM7/9/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, confrontviolence
case distribute korei to kora hochhe. eta to ekta case. ei case nie tumi chaile coordinate karo, group e to kolkatar lokjon roechhen. 

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 12:13:36 PM7/9/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, confrontviolence
seTaai to bollaam - aami followup koraa, arthaat paribaar baa meyetir saathe jogaajog koraa eiTaa korte paari, kintu jogaajoger jany jaa information dorkaar setaa jogaarh koraa baa co-ordinate koraa, seTaa koraar samay paabonaa. 

ami nijeke oi family baa meyetir jaaygay bosiye bhaabar chesta korchhi - politically eta public interest-er byapar ebong there's nothing private in it. samasyaa hochche amaader samaaj sebhaabe bhaabenaa, kaajei sekhaane kinchit sensitivity dekhaano prayojan bole bodh kori. 

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 8:05:51 PM7/9/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, confrontviolence

Belghoriyar meyetir sathe jogajoger janyo je info dorkar seta jatokkhon na paoa jachhe ba seta coordinate korar moto keu, tahole byaparta sthogito rakhchhi ?  

emnite ei case ta nie anekdur egono hoechhilo. sab i ready hoe gechhilo, kal Samik post korto.

mithu roy

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 8:39:39 PM7/9/13
to confrontviolence
 Belgharia r caser oi mahilar sange   20 th july er pare JogaJoger ekTa sambhaabana aachhe.  
cheshhta karbo  sambhab hale onar ph.no Ta   Jadi Jogarh kora jay.

tabe mahilar saThik  Thikaana  Jara khon`j nebe 
tader o jaanaa nei- phale  shesh parJanta ki darabe bojha jaachchhe  naa.



Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 8:55:49 PM7/9/13
to mithu roy, confrontviolence
oi mohila mara gechhen.

mithu roy

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 10:22:02 PM7/9/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, confrontviolence
mohila r mRityur khabar  jana nei.  khub kharap abasthay chhilen  ei parJanta jani.


Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 10:26:11 PM7/9/13
to mithu roy, confrontviolence
ami group e ei nie bar charek duto report diechhilam, tatei mrityur  khabor chhilo.  RTI ta sei khaborgulor bhittitei kara.

Saikat Bandyopadhyay

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 10:32:27 PM7/9/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, mithu roy, confrontviolence
ei rakam ekta conclusion e pouchhono jak.

1. ei case e RTI kora hok, kaj ta anek dur egiye gachhe,

2. somantoral bhabe jogajog korar cheshta kora hok. 

aar eta to ekta public domain e ghote jawa ghotona. khoborer kagojeo beriyechhe. todonter ki holo, keu shasti pelo kina jana hochchhe. mohilar upor atyachar hoyechhe eta already khobor. er pore just todonter khobor nile ki mohilar alada kore kichhu bibroto hobar sombhabona achhe? amar to mone hoy nei. atreyi ektu chintabhabna koro. please.

Saikat Bandyopadhyay

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 10:35:24 PM7/9/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, mithu roy, confrontviolence
uni mara gele alada kore bibroto hobar to chance nei. onar family mean korechhilam aar ki.

mithu roy

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 10:37:36 PM7/9/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, confrontviolence
link ta ami miss karechhilam. ei dekhlam.

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 10:47:21 PM7/9/13
to mithu roy, confrontviolence
Saikatda,  eta ki tahole parallel process hisebe cholbe ? kintu tar to as such kono mane nei, mane RTI kora niye apotti achhe kina jana RTI file korar pore jene ki habe ?  seta ki eijanyo je RTI kore kichu jana gele seta prokash kora habe kina, sei nie siddhnato nebar janyo ?

aar etai procedure hole anyo RTI gulo niyeo bhabte habe.  sab case ei age victim er sathe ba barite jogajog kore jante habe, tarpor sei nie RTI kora habe kina sei siddhanto nite habe.  erpor katigulo RTI adou habe, ektao habe kina sandeho achhe.
bhebe janio. 

Saikat Bandyopadhyay

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 10:54:27 PM7/9/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, mithu roy, confrontviolence
na. ei case e jogajog ta permission nebar jonne kora hobe na. as such RTI korte permission lageo na. phole ota amra korchhi.

khoj khobor ta ei khetre ei jonne nile bhalo hoy, je, amra onader version gulo o jante parbo.

e khetre jehetu mohila mara gechhen, tai lack of sensitivity dekhano o hobena. onno kono khetre jogajog ta joruri precondition mone hole kora hobe. ei ar ki.

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 9, 2013, 10:57:16 PM7/9/13
to Saikat Bandyopadhyay, mithu roy, confrontviolence
ok.

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Jul 10, 2013, 12:26:15 AM7/10/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, mithu roy, confrontviolence
Saikat,
 
age duto jinis alada koraa hok. permission laage kina - arthaat required kina, taa niye kotha hochchenaa. seta sabai jaani je laagenaa. jogaajog koraata ethical ebong amar kaachhe political karone prayojon bole mone hoy. noile ekti elite group-er nijeder voice chaapiye deoyaar sambhabonaa dekhaa dey. nijeder involvement-er jonyeo aarektu personal jogsutra hoyaa dorkaar noy ki?
 
haThat kore RTI fie koraatai to lakkho naa, baa katogulo korlaam seTaar count ta important naa. nishchoi kono ekta brihattara plan aachhe - sei plan ta ki? amar kaachhe plan ta 1), sarkarke chaap deoyaa, 2), basically bringing people in the fold of events - ei people bolte bishesh kore jara already victim baa taader priyojon.
 
1) ta korte gele lege thaakte hobe, uttar aashbena, abaar procedure follow koraa eisab korte hobe, prachaar maadhyamer sahajy nite hobe. ei puro process tar jonyeo 2) nombor ta joruri.
 
echharhaa, samik je draft ta diyechhilo taate shudhu tadanter katha baa doshider sastir katha na compensation-er kothaao chhilo. segulo-o ki taahole raakha hobe?
 
aar aami ekkhuni kono conclusion-e jete bolchhinaa, kintu evolving process hisebe egulo maathaay raakha dorkaar bole bodh kori.

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 10, 2013, 9:20:07 AM7/10/13
to confrontviolence
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Joydhak Akasmik <joy...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: {ConfrontViolence} RTI kora
To: Ipsita Pal Bhowmick <palbho...@gmail.com>


Ei karone kajta sthogit rakha onuchit hocche.

Somosyata kintu belghariar meyetar ekar noi. Je proshnogulor uttor
chaoya hocche setao shudhumatro sei meyetar ekaar swarthe noi.

eker por ek ei dhoroner RTI kore ei proshnogulor uttor dite
korrtripokkhoke badhyo korte parle ebong se uttorguloke mediate niye
aste parle je chaapta toiri kora jeto seta sob meyeder jonyei upokarer
hoto.

Meyetar poribarer songe jogajog korte parle bhalo hoto hoito, kintu na
kora gele shudhumatro sei karone eto gurutwopoorno ekta kajtake deri
koriye deyata khub juktijukto hocche ki?

shesh porjonto ki korben na korben seta ekantobhabei apnader byapar,
kintu ekjon sadharon manush hisebe kintu amar kachhe ei karone
byapartake deri koriye deyata ekta serious bhul podokkhep bole mone
hocche.
>>>>>>>>>> প্রয়োজন আছে বলে মনে হয় না। ধর্ষিতার পরিবারেরও না। আর যেখানে তার
>>>>>>>>>> সঙ্গে হত্যা
>>>>>>>>>> বা মৃত্যু জুড়ে গেছে সেখানে তো কথাই নেই।
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ধারা ৮(১) অনুযায়ী দশটি গ্রাউন্ডে তথ্য দিতে অস্বীকার করা যেতে
>>>>>>>>>> পারে।
>>>>>>>>>> তাতে দেশের সুরক্ষা,ট্রেড সিক্রেট যাতে কোন তৃতীয় পক্ষের ব্যবসায়িক
>>>>>>>>>> ক্ষতি,
>>>>>>>>>> বিদেশি রাষ্ট্রের থেকে গোপনীয় সূত্রে পাওয়া খবর, মন্ত্রীসভার বৈঠকের

>>>>>>>>>> প্রসিডিংস, কোন খবর চাউর হলে কারো প্রাণনাশের বা শারীরিক ক্ষতির
>>>>>>>>>> আশংকা,,
>>>>>>>>>> তদন্তের প্রগতির বা অপরাধীকে গ্রেফতার করতে বাধক হবে এমন খবর গোছের
>>>>>>>>>> কারণ আছে।
>>>>>>>>>> কিন্তু ধারা ৮(২) অনুযায়ী a public authority may allow access to

Saikat Bandyopadhyay

unread,
Jul 10, 2013, 4:46:48 PM7/10/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, confrontviolence
atreyir duto point er songe ami aro ekta jog korbo.
1. sorkar ke chap dewa.
2. victim er songe jogajog rekhe jawa.
3. real situation tar byapok prochar kora ebong aro aro lokke actively ei RTI initiative e joriye phela. -- eita khub dorkar. noile chap, sochetonota kichhui toiri hobena.

ami to expect korbo, group er sobai individually ekta ekta kore case handle korben. ekta case er abhiggota hoye jabar por. ebong aro aro lok join korben aro nana idea niye. 

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 10, 2013, 4:49:56 PM7/10/13
to Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
amar sathe aj ekta newspaper er katha hoehche, ora ei RTI kora ta nie ekta khabor korte pare. rape victim der sathe jogajoger byapareo sahajyo korte pare. dekha jaak.

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Jul 14, 2013, 5:10:28 PM7/14/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
Etaar status ki?

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Jul 16, 2013, 6:58:14 PM7/16/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
post hoe gechhe. 

Samik M

unread,
Jul 17, 2013, 2:00:28 AM7/17/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, Atreyi Dasgupta, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
hyan, kaal Noida Main PO theke post kore diyechhi. duto pay order insert korte hoyechhe. ekta 10 takar, RTI file korar jonyo. aar ekta 50 takar, speed post e reply pabar jonyo.

dekhi kobe nagad jobab aase.

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Aug 21, 2013, 1:34:52 AM8/21/13
to Samik M, Atreyi Dasgupta, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
35 din hoe gyalo, RTI er uttor elona. ebar ki karoniyo ?

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Sep 22, 2013, 11:31:08 PM9/22/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, Samik M, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
etaar follow-up ki? uttar asheni dhore nichchhi. ebaar ki koraar plan?

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Sep 22, 2013, 11:32:28 PM9/22/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, Samik M, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
petition-tar- ebong sob soi jogaar kore taarpor ki holo ultimately? ei byapargulote ektu update pele bhalo hoy.

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Sep 23, 2013, 12:36:17 AM9/23/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, Samik M, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
1. sab soi aseni. Kamduni theke petition ekhono ferot aseni. ja soi hoyechhe, segulor scan o sab aseni. asbe, tar janyo apekkha kora hochhe.
2. samiker dilli fera abdhi apekkha korte habe. agerbar pathanor proof diye dwitiyobar higher authority r kachhe RTI file kara habe.

Joydhak Akasmik

unread,
Sep 23, 2013, 2:43:06 AM9/23/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, Samik M, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
E reply ta sombhoboto sokoler kache jay ni. kebol atreyir kache chole gechilO. re-post kore dilam reply all mode-e:

Ei byapare ebare appellate authority r kache move korte hobe. Sejonyo ami agei bolechi, mool chithitar pathabar proof o proof of delivery e dutor copy pele appeal tar draft kore debo. 

Goto du saptaho opekkhay achi se document er. 

Pabar du diner modhye appeal er draft peye jaben. Patroprerok se evidence gulo nishchoi rekhe thakben.

Debjyoti

Samik M

unread,
Sep 23, 2013, 2:52:28 AM9/23/13
to Joydhak Akasmik, Atreyi Dasgupta, Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
aami postal RTI korar pashapashi ek-i RTI File korechhilam online. eta aboshyo aami kaukei janai ni aage, karon online Filing kaaj kore kina seta jana joruri chhilo.

It worked! We got a reply from Barrackpore Commissionerate.

File korechhilam www.youradhikar.com-e. reply esechhe 18th September. Scan kore amake pathiyechhe reply. attach kore dilam.


...

[Message clipped]  

rti_reply.pdf

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Sep 23, 2013, 7:15:06 AM9/23/13
to Samik M, Joydhak Akasmik, Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
prashner draft tao ekhaane rakhlaam jate miliye dekhte subidhe hay. etaai final draft chhilo to?
RTI-Belghoria draft1.docx

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Sep 23, 2013, 7:53:13 AM9/23/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, Samik M, Joydhak Akasmik, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
khub bhalo khabor.

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Sep 23, 2013, 8:30:53 AM9/23/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, Samik M, Joydhak Akasmik, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
eita motamuti final draft chhilo.

RTI-Belghoria draft2.docx

Atreyi Dasgupta

unread,
Sep 23, 2013, 9:51:23 AM9/23/13
to Ipsita Pal Bhowmick, Samik M, Joydhak Akasmik, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
kono compensation deoyaa hoyni eTaa niye kichhu koraa jaabe?

Kalyan Bhaumik

unread,
Sep 23, 2013, 10:24:38 AM9/23/13
to confrontviolence
Hello
 
This is Kalyan Bhaumik. I had joined  as somebody forwarded me an e-mail about this google group and I liked the cause. I've been a lurker (honestly) in this group for a few months. Reason for this e-mail is to find out, how a new joinee may expect to fit in.
 
Also, I was wondering if I can be of limited help. 'Limited' because due to other priorties (work + family) and constarint (location) I may not be able to devote time to the activities performed by the group members.
 
However occassionaly I can donate a little sum of money to help with the good activities the group is performing.  Regarding that a few questions come to my mind.
 
1. How certain common expenses are paid (say, cost of RTI filing), is it like a member pays from his/her pocket? or is there a common fund?
2. Is this (ConfrontViolence group) a formal organization? Does it have an office (I don't necessarily mean a physical office)/bank account?
 
Thanks and regards. (baktyabbo bojhate shubidhe habe bole engreji te likhlam)
 
- Kalyan Bhaumik

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Sep 23, 2013, 10:15:13 PM9/23/13
to Kalyan Bhaumik, confrontviolence
Thanks a lot ! 
1. As of now, the member has paid the the cost of RTI filing from his pocket.  Earlier, memebers have paid themselves for the pronting of the leaflet, posters etc. There is note yet any common fund, it would be good to have one.
2. Confrontviolence is yet to have any bank account. 

 - Ipsita


--

Kalyan Bhaumik

unread,
Sep 24, 2013, 7:44:07 AM9/24/13
to confrontviolence
Thank you. I'll stay tuned.
 
Regards.

Ipsita Pal Bhowmick

unread,
Sep 25, 2013, 11:04:16 PM9/25/13
to Atreyi Dasgupta, Samik M, Joydhak Akasmik, Saikat Bandyopadhyay, confrontviolence
garhir owner ke keno idenitify kora holo na ba gelo na , sei niyeo prashno tola jae.  

kintu egulo niye to ar RTI kora jabena. media e report karanor cheshta kora jete pare. sekhane ei prashngulo tola jae. 

ar kichu ganosangothonke ei niye udyog nite bola jae.
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages