I dunno why this has passed me over for so long but this Universal Editor for just about every bit of hardware under the sun makes using hardware infinitely easier it seems. I got my Korg 05r/w and Roland JV1080. The Korg is a lot easier to use but the JV is a nightmare although the patches are a million times better!!
I guess I can understand why it so expensive as there are literally like 200 midi editors included in it. I think it'd be better though to be able to download it and select the editors you want and pay slightly less. That said I'm gonna hopefully download it tonight so let ya know how that goes nudge nudge wink wink.
yeah you can script your own editors as well, I've tried a cracked version but it's a difficult program to use.. all of those types of programs have their quirks tbh. wanted to script my own evolver editor in there but I gave up pretty quickly when I couldn't even sync stuff up. probably worth the effort.
It's pretty buggy. I had nothing but problems with it and I know from other forums a lot of other people had the same experience. If you can get it to work then it will be amazing, but I think few have had success with it.
Yeah I just installed and it couldn't even recognise my hardware romplers. Pile of shit basically. Such a crying shame as a program like this would just bring all those old bits of hardware right into the 21st century. Needs to be opensource and then let people create their own editors for it and you can download em. This seems to be interesting =48 but I don't honestly think I have the time for it!
Best thing you could do imo is just rely on sysex dumps to make a library and/or get a sysex controler like the BCR2000 or Peavy. I wrote a SysEx program for my sampler and am controlling all the knobs with my BCF2k which is very handy, if a little messy with the 2 cords for power and midi in/out... easy to chop up breaks n stuff though this way, wouldn't want to do that from the front panel.
This software is a giant stinking pile of shit. Quirks nothing. This thing doesn't even work. What makes it so irritating is that if it did actually work it would be amazing. It even is supposed to have a vst plugin that can load patches and send messages from inside your track.
If I had a half year and some money I would put together a team of devs and make something like this that would actually work, and then sell it for like $50 just to fuck with those midiquest assholes.
My thoughts too. I think this would have been relevant had they cracked it say 5-6 years ago but now hardware is becoming obselete you gotta wonder if there's any point. I do agree it would be so awesome to be able to program my JV1080 via VST Plugin. I think the logical thing to do is to sell the package based on how many editors you need e.g $50 for 5 or $75 for 10 etc.
same, trying to use it with my Yamaha Vl1, Kawai K5000 an Yamaha FS1R has been a greek hell to put it mildly. Certain features work but most of the important ones don't, very frustrating program indeed. If they worked with my hardware i would lock myself in my studio for a month
I disaggree that hardware is going out. There are more and more interesting hardware boxes showing up lately, and the old stuff is around in the same qunatity as ever. The fact it's hard to integrate has a lot to do with why people shy away from it.
To be honest I have a hard time getting my JV1080 to do what I need it to do in 16 part mode let alone editing it. I haven't really used it for a while now where as my Korg 05r/w I use all the time. Mainly 'cause its so much more simple.
The Kawai K4 was the coolest ROMpler I ever played with. Brothomstates apparently got some mileage out of that synth. It sounded great but I was struggling with editing it too. Seems to be a pattern with ROMplers.
Well yeah I've only got two and only bought one this year which was the JV1080. My Korg I've had since 1998. Anyways even tho the JV is a real bitch to program it does come with a wealth of very good presets.
all a rompler i from what i understand is a sampler without sampling capability. What piece of gear do you need a hardware editor for where it wouldnt be easier to just find/rip the samples and throw them into Kontakt?
Had my eye on this for years the mac and windows version, it's now landed on the iPad, my excitement is overflowing. Looks extremely versatile for people with hardware synths, especially ones that are fiddly to program, like the 80's and 90's digital synths with tiny screens. I've not hooked it up to anything yet, but it lets you download a synth from its long list of supported hardware, there are iap's which I've not seen how much they cost, but if it's like it's desktop counterparts, you can edit your synths with a gui that looks like modern plugins, also manages sysex data, patches and banks and has a randomise feature too boot, more info here.
Hmmmm, no mention of Novation on their website...have emailed them and asked if novation devices are supported as that is what I mainly own synth wise....
This would also be a very dangerous purchase for GAS sufferers....650+ devices...that's a long shopping list
I couldn't get the $ tab to work either, in my excitement I assumed they gave you one free template, didn't realise it was a demo, hopefully they'll get the iap's up and running soon, I was using the + button and selecting install instrument option and going through the list.
Lol, what a kick in the balls, we have a selection of novation synths* hopefully they'll expand their list with requests from ios users if it takes off on the platform and think it's worth the time investing in, they didn't have my k2000r on the list just the k2000 rs, which fingers crossed will work, as it's a beast to program.
the editors remind a lot on the Coffeeshopped stuff, but are much more tiny.
(just compared it to CZ-Touch for Casio CZ synths)
Not shure about the screen estate of Coffeeshopped's Patchbase, which is the followup product to get more synths under one hood (like Midiquest), instead of the single 'Synth-Touch' Editors.
They were premium price purchases/IAPs, but the CZ thing worked great on my CZ1000 on which almost every switch was worn out.
I wasn't even aware of the coffeeshopped stuff, had a look though and non of my synths were supported, I like the look of the gui's though, I'm hoping they update the gui's in midiquest, like how korgs does it for their classics, easy to navigate. My jd800 is worse for wear, bought it secondhand like that, so I'd love an editor for it, as that was my dream synth as a nipper.
Yes, there's a much larger amount of devices in Midiquest, even some fx unit like the small Lexicon LXPs that frequently show up for very affordable prices.
But you can try out the Editors with nothing connected if you simply choose initialize when it asks for loading.
The single editors in Coffeeshops 'Touch' family are definitely more snappy and less annoying. When you drag a value in Midiquest there's a big yellow label (flickering) instead of a smooth single number within a circle.
Can't remember TouchBase, but I probably removed it for it's (also) tinier appearance.
Had a look around and it seems like this will be as fiddly to program as some of my synths, buttons and drop down menus on the templates I tried are tiny, they should of optimised this for the ipad. With all the included synths this could be fantastic, but the gui needs work, also curious how much the iap's will cost, also some sections don't have labels just a grid with no info, my excitement has subsided. Spose it's just back to procrastinating about building some templates in lemur for me.
Not trying to spread misinformation before we get official confirmation but when this was released last week I read somewhere (maybe reader comments on Synthtopia?) that the IAPs are going to be pricey. Not sure where they heard it but one synth mentioned in particular was Roland JV-1010 for $89 which is ridiculous!
the empty grids are due to no hardware connection - in regular use they are filled by midi data from the external unit.
But the layout (or control paradigm) isn't consistent across all devices, depends on model.
Imho it looks a bit more frightening that it is and some reactions (unresponsiveness) may be influenced by the 8 parameter demo limitation.
Even if IAPs end in a region similiar to Coffeeshopped's it's an affordable solution.
Programming sysex communication isn't for the faint of heart... even more today when people aren't used to shift around single bits (the essence of midi) anymore.
Let alone there are constraints not immediately obvious in the documentation (if any available at all) or timing/buffer restrictions... it's a complex game.