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Ivan Shmakov
Jul 9, 2012, 3:07:06 AM7/9/12
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>>>>> Aaron W Hsu <arc...@sacrideo.us> writes:
>>>>> Grant Edwards <inv...@invalid.invalid> writes:
[Cross-posting to news:comp.windows.x.]
>> Using X forwarding over something like a 3Mb DSL link just doesn't
>> work these days for anything fancier than xterm: Things like Gnome
>> or KDE apps are completely out of the question in my experience.
> I have ranted on this before. Modern toolkits and their use largely
> ignore and duplicate functionality that is in the core X or common
> libraries, and this results in massive amounts of rendering waste,
> easily detectable on a X-forwarded connection.
I still remember playing some X games over a 14400 bit/s modem
connection.
[...]
> I find that to be my preferred solution instead of going VNC unless I
> need to share a screen with others.
Though, ISTR, there were (are?) solutions for "screen sharing"
based on the X protocol.
[...]
> I recommend looking for applications written in toolkits like Motif,
> (install OpenMotif instead of using lesstif, though),
... Or vice versa, for those preferring free software.
(Open Motif is /not/ free software, according to either the FSF
definition or DFSG. It's part of "non-Debian" non-free, for
instance.)
> Xlib, Xt, or some of the other lesser known toolkits. By default
> they look dated due to the default theming, but it is fairly
> straightforward to get them looking clean and modern.
It's my guess that it's up to /us/, the ones interested in Xt,
to create such themes.
> Once you have that, your experiences in remote GUI use will be much
> improved, IMO.
My guess is that there're quite a few "broken" Xt applications,
including those performing needless refreshes.
--
FSF associate member #7257
>>>>> Grant Edwards <inv...@invalid.invalid> writes:
[Cross-posting to news:comp.windows.x.]
>> Using X forwarding over something like a 3Mb DSL link just doesn't
>> work these days for anything fancier than xterm: Things like Gnome
>> or KDE apps are completely out of the question in my experience.
> I have ranted on this before. Modern toolkits and their use largely
> ignore and duplicate functionality that is in the core X or common
> libraries, and this results in massive amounts of rendering waste,
> easily detectable on a X-forwarded connection.
I still remember playing some X games over a 14400 bit/s modem
connection.
[...]
> I find that to be my preferred solution instead of going VNC unless I
> need to share a screen with others.
Though, ISTR, there were (are?) solutions for "screen sharing"
based on the X protocol.
[...]
> I recommend looking for applications written in toolkits like Motif,
> (install OpenMotif instead of using lesstif, though),
... Or vice versa, for those preferring free software.
(Open Motif is /not/ free software, according to either the FSF
definition or DFSG. It's part of "non-Debian" non-free, for
instance.)
> Xlib, Xt, or some of the other lesser known toolkits. By default
> they look dated due to the default theming, but it is fairly
> straightforward to get them looking clean and modern.
It's my guess that it's up to /us/, the ones interested in Xt,
to create such themes.
> Once you have that, your experiences in remote GUI use will be much
> improved, IMO.
My guess is that there're quite a few "broken" Xt applications,
including those performing needless refreshes.
--
FSF associate member #7257
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