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Alexander Bartolich

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Jan 9, 2010, 8:01:54 PM1/9/10
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MODERATOR VACANCY INVESTIGATION (MVI)
moderated group comp.windows.x.announce

This is a formal Moderator Vacancy Investigation (MVI), begun because
moderated newsgroup comp.windows.x.announce is not functioning,
and may have been abandoned by its moderator(s).

This investigation will attempt to verify the reasons for non-function,
and may result in the removal of the group or the selection and instal-
lation of a new moderator. In practice, the Big-8 Management Board
considers the third alternative--changing the status of the group from
moderated to unmoderated--as likely to cause more harm than good.

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

<comp-window...@moderators.isc.org>: host
moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 550-Callout verification
failed: 550 550 5.1.1 <ka...@ics.com>... User unknown
(in reply to RCPT TO command)

ka...@ics.com
(generated from comp-window...@moderators.isc.org)
SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<ka...@ics.com>:
host mail-relay.ics.com [66.238.211.190]: 550 5.1.1 <ka...@ics.com>...
User unknown

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

comp.windows.x.announce X Window System announcements. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.windows.x.announce

CHARTER OF COMP.WINDOWS.X.ANNOUNCE

This group will be moderated by the staff of X Consortium, Inc.
Traffic will be limited to major X announcements, such as the
following:

Public Review of a proposed X Consortium standard
Adoption of a new X Consortium standard
Upcoming public X conferences, exhibitions, or meetings
A new release of a major public system, toolkit, or application
A major patch or modification to X software

The moderator will reject messages on these subjects:

Advertisements for commercial products
Questions about anything

There is a two-way gateway between comp.windows.x.announce and the
mailing list xann...@x.org. Messages appearing here will also
appear on the mailing list xp...@x.org (but NOT on the newsgroup
comp.windows.x).

It is intended that traffic will be low enough that everyone with any
interest in X will subscribe.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

comp.windows.x.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 602:18 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Jun 1994.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this moderator vacancy investigation should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant
threads in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this MVI has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

For more information on the MVI process, please see

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2009-10-29 First probe post
2010-01-10 Moderator Vacancy Investigation

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Alexander Bartolich

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Jan 23, 2010, 9:01:50 PM1/23/10
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group comp.windows.x.announce

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.windows.x.announce.

RATIONALE:

Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.

<comp-window...@moderators.isc.org>: host
moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 550-Callout verification
failed: 550 550 5.1.1 <ka...@ics.com>... User unknown
(in reply to RCPT TO command)

ka...@ics.com
(generated from comp-window...@moderators.isc.org)
SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<ka...@ics.com>:
host mail-relay.ics.com [66.238.211.190]: 550 5.1.1 <ka...@ics.com>...
User unknown

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

comp.windows.x.announce X Window System announcements. (Moderated)

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.windows.x.announce
comp.windows.x

CHARTER OF COMP.WINDOWS.X.ANNOUNCE

This group will be moderated by the staff of X Consortium, Inc.
Traffic will be limited to major X announcements, such as the
following:

Public Review of a proposed X Consortium standard
Adoption of a new X Consortium standard
Upcoming public X conferences, exhibitions, or meetings
A new release of a major public system, toolkit, or application
A major patch or modification to X software

The moderator will reject messages on these subjects:

Advertisements for commercial products
Questions about anything

There is a two-way gateway between comp.windows.x.announce and the
mailing list xann...@x.org. Messages appearing here will also
appear on the mailing list xp...@x.org (but NOT on the newsgroup
comp.windows.x).

It is intended that traffic will be low enough that everyone with any
interest in X will subscribe.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

comp.windows.x.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 602:18 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Jun 1994.

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should


subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.

To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.

In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.

Available options for comp.windows.x.announce are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group

For more information on the MVI process, please see

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2009-10-29 First probe post
2010-01-10 Moderator Vacancy Investigation

2010-01-24 1st RFD

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Alexander Bartolich

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Feb 6, 2010, 5:59:23 PM2/6/10
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RATIONALE:

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.windows.x.announce
comp.windows.x

CHARTER OF COMP.WINDOWS.X.ANNOUNCE

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-02-06 2nd RFD

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Big-8 Management Board

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Feb 22, 2010, 1:36:17 PM2/22/10
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RATIONALE:

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.windows.x.announce
comp.windows.x

CHARTER OF COMP.WINDOWS.X.ANNOUNCE

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

PROCEDURE:

http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi

CHANGE HISTORY:

2010-02-21 LCC

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Big-8 Management Board

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Mar 2, 2010, 12:12:57 AM3/2/10
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RESULT
comp.windows.x.announce will be removed

The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2010-02-21 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board has decided by vote to remove moderated group
comp.windows.x.announce.

Vote results (yes-no-abstain): 10-0-0

RATIONALE:

NEWSGROUPS LINE:

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.windows.x.announce
comp.windows.x

CHARTER OF COMP.WINDOWS.X.ANNOUNCE

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

PROPONENT:

Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>

CHANGE HISTORY:

2009-10-29 First probe post
2010-01-10 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-01-24 1st RFD
2010-02-06 2nd RFD
2010-02-21 LCC

2010-03-02 RESULT

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