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Charles Sullivan

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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I have a new PC running Windows 98 and and old PC running
Windows 3.1 .

The old PC has a 400 Meg drive almost completely full, including
several hundred Meg of files I'd like to copy to the new PC. Other
than a 1.44 M floppy, I have no compatible relocatable data
storage medium.

Any suggestions as to how this might be accomplished via a
cable between parallel ports?

Regards,
Charles Sullivan cwsu...@nr.infi.net


Blaz Kosir

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Oct 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/15/98
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Hi,

I have a very simple and clean solution for your problem, providing that you
want to keep the long filenames. I do this all the time when a client wants
the same as you - to keep the files from the old hard drive on his new
machine.

There is a very good (albeit painfully slow) way of hooking up two PCs via
the parallel port in DOS, but there are two drawbacks:
1. you loose the long filenames (you get the garbled 6 letters +
~1.extension names) and
2. you need a special adapter to adapt your parallel cable to fit the
parallel ports on both PCs

My solution is this:
1. open the computer box
2. find your 400 meg hard drive
3. disconnect it
4. connect your new hard drive (I presume you WILL have a new hard drive for
the new PC)
5. install your copy of Windows on the new hard drive
6. go find the instructions for your old hard drive and set the jumpers to
SLAVE position. Either the instructions are printed on a label on the hard
drive itself or you have it somewhere on the papers that came with your old
PC. If you don't have the instructions, there are still two remedies:
6a. if you have a standard hard drive like Fujitsu, Seagate, Western
Digital or something like that, mail me with the specific code of your hard
drive and I will try and look it up somewhere
6b. fool around with it. Usually, the jumpers have only three postions
and you can try all of them without harming your hard drive.
7. go to the system bios (usually by hitting the DEL key when the machine
counts its RAM)
8. find the IDE hard disk autodetection utility
9. you should see your new hard drive as the Primary Master and your old
drive as the Primary or Secondary Slave, depending on how you connected it:
if you connected both the new and the old hard drive on the same cable, you
should have the first version. If you connected it with separate cables, you
should have your old drive as the Secondary Slave. Doesn't matter really.
10. boot up your computer in the newly-installed Windows 95
11. you should have your new hard drive as the C: drive and your old drive
as the D: drive. If this doesn't happen, simply go to Settings / Control
Panel / Add New Hardware and let Windows detect your "new hardware". Windows
should find a Standard IDE controller or a similar device
12. (optionally) restart the computer
13. voila! Now you can copy the files you want from your old drive to the
new one
14. when you're done, turn off the computer, disconnect the old drive and go
to System Bios once again. Select something like Standard Setup and remove
your Primary Slave or Secondary Slave drive

Mail me if you have any further questions.

Cheers, Blaz

Charles Sullivan wrote in message <705lss$vdu$1...@nw001t.infi.net>...

Steve Winograd

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Oct 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/16/98
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In article <JLvV1.1479$4b5.28...@news.siol.net>, "Blaz Kosir" <bla...@interblod.com> wrote:
>There is a very good (albeit painfully slow) way of hooking up two PCs via
>the parallel port in DOS, but there are two drawbacks:
>1. you loose the long filenames (you get the garbled 6 letters +
>~1.extension names) and
>2. you need a special adapter to adapt your parallel cable to fit the
>parallel ports on both PCs

Please provide more information about how to do this type of file
transfer. I already have a parallel port crossover (Laplink type)
cable.

Best Wishes,
Steve

Perry Grieb

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Oct 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/16/98
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"Charles Sullivan" <cwsu...@nr.infi.net> writes:

> I have a new PC running Windows 98 and and old PC running
> Windows 3.1 .
>
> The old PC has a 400 Meg drive almost completely full, including
> several hundred Meg of files I'd like to copy to the new PC.
> Other than a 1.44 M floppy, I have no compatible relocatable
> data storage medium.
>

> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan cwsu...@nr.infi.net

I'd just pull out the 400M drive, jumper it as an IDE slave,
and plug it into the new computer. Power-up, go into CMOS
setup, and get your BIOS to recognize the drive. The drive
manufacturer should have jumper configuration info at their
web site, if it is not marked clearly on the drive. Probably
you want to remove the old drive when done.

There are some programs you can buy that do file transfers
over a parallel port cable, but you may have trouble finding
one that has both Win3.1 and Win98 executables that are
compatible. I'd go the free route and physically move the
400M drive myself. But then I've done that kind of thing
before and have no fear or respect!

Not responsible for voiding your warrenty,
Perry
--
Perry Grieb
c23...@eng.delcoelect.com


vanbrabant christian

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Oct 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/18/98
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for this i use a serial or parr. null modem cable and an old program
such as fastwire or laplink
works fine


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Charles Sullivan wrote:
>
> I have a new PC running Windows 98 and and old PC running
> Windows 3.1 .
>
> The old PC has a 400 Meg drive almost completely full, including
> several hundred Meg of files I'd like to copy to the new PC. Other
> than a 1.44 M floppy, I have no compatible relocatable data
> storage medium.
>

> Any suggestions as to how this might be accomplished via a
> cable between parallel ports?
>
> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan cwsu...@nr.infi.net

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sami...@bix.com

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Oct 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/20/98
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Laplink is good. An older version would probably suffice and can likely be
"borrowed" for a 1 time use. If he intends to keep the older machine in
use, however, I'd recommend installing a 10BT adapter in each machine
(total cost <50) with a "null-hub" wiring scheme (3-6 cross?) since this
will allow fast transfer of data back & forth.
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:28:48 +0200 vanbrabant christian of uunet wrote this
re Re: Transfer files from old PC to new - How?:

>for this i use a serial or parr. null modem cable and an old program
>such as fastwire or laplink
>works fine
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Steve Armstrong

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Boot WIN98 from a DOS floppy. Then try DOS 6.2 Interlink. It's free. Even
has instructions on making serial and parallel cables. Probably lose long
files names though.
Loads up in config.sys. Then run Interserver on one to make a dedicated file
server and the drives are remapped on the other to be the client.
Easy, and free.
Do:
cd\DOS
help interlnk or help intersvr

Blaz Kosir

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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Yes, exactly what I meant.

Steve Armstrong wrote in message <70q7s8$a...@agbinet.air.ups.com>...

Charles Sullivan

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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I'm the person who posted the original query, i.e., how to transfer the
approx
300-400 Meg of data on my old PC (DOS 5, Win 3.1) to my new PC (purchased
from Gateway and running Win 98).

I tried two suggestions made from this newsgroup, but neither worked:
1. Install original hard drive as slave drive on new PC:
In SETUP, the bios recognized the slave drive by manufacturer and model,
but
reported 0 bytes available space. This bios does not display heads and
cylindars, at
least when it recognizes the manf and model of the drive, so I could not
verify
the settings were correct. I suspect however that this bios does not
simultaneously
support FAT 16 and FAT 32 drives.

2. Boot up with DOS 6.22 and use Interlink:
I formatted and SYS'd a floppy on my laptop (a third PC - not one of those
described
above) which has DOS 6.22 and booted up my new PC with it. I got only an
"Invalid drive
specification" when I tried to access the hard drive (the new one - I had
since removed the
old "slave" drive).

I eventually found out that Win 98 BACKUP has built-in support for a limited
selection
of tape drives, including a Colorado Jumbo 250, so I borrowed one of these
from a friend,
installed it in my old PC, and backed up the entire hard drive (on 4 tapes).
Then installed it
in the new PC and restored the files to the new hard drive. This worked
and resolved the
problem.

I appreciate the efforts made by members of this newsgroup to help me solve
the problem,
even though the suggestions made were not successful.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan


Steve Winograd

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Oct 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/27/98
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In article <70q7s8$a...@agbinet.air.ups.com>, "Steve Armstrong" <air...@air.ups.com> wrote:
>Boot WIN98 from a DOS floppy. Then try DOS 6.2 Interlink. It's free. Even
>has instructions on making serial and parallel cables. Probably lose long
>files names though.
>Loads up in config.sys. Then run Interserver on one to make a dedicated file
>server and the drives are remapped on the other to be the client.
>Easy, and free.
>Do:
>cd\DOS
>help interlnk or help intersvr

I just used Interlnk/Intersvr for the first time to transfer files
between Windows 3.1 machines. I was amazed at how easy it was to set
up and pleased at how fast the transfer went. Thanks for the tip!

Best Wishes,
Steve

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