Getting started on solaris/sun gear

[netnews.comcast.net]

Getting started with solaris and sun hardware. What recommendations can the
group make for hardware. I will probally ebay a couple boxes. What should I
look for.. ? Also, start with Sol10 or 9? TIA

[Dave Uhring]

http://docs.sun.com
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/

[Rich Teer]

I'd start with S10. With that in mind, you'lll need an UltraSPARC
based computer with a clock speed greater then 200 MHz. That means
that a 250 MHz ULtra 30 or a 300 MHz Ultra 2 will be your cheapest
options.

As Dave suggests, check out Sun's HW handbook to determin which
models have the features you want/need, and maybe ask a few more
questions here before you pay out any cash.

Good luck,

--
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-online.net

[CJT]

netnews.comcast.net wrote:

Those kinds of questions, if you ask 5 people you'll probably get 6
answers, and 7 of them will disagree.

I tend to be a cheapskate, so if you're not, these suggestions might
not be for you.

Something in the Ultra line. I like my Ultra 2. If money is tight,
maybe an Ultra 5. If money is really tight, then maybe an Ultra 1
(although it'll feel pretty slow). If money is less of an object,
then something more recent. There are also some pretty cheap AXi
based machines out there (I bought one a few weeks ago for $60 nicely
configured).

I'd steer clear of the really vintage stuff at this point (Sparcstation
5, IPC, IPX, LX, etc.) although playing with them can be an education.
They're just too slow by today's standards, and either unsupported or
soon will be. Plus, chances are the disks in them are pretty well
run-in.

Stick to Sol 9 for now -- 10 is still in beta.

You could also run Solaris on X86.

JMHO; HTH

--
The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.

[Dave Uhring]

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:33:10 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:

> I'd start with S10. With that in mind, you'lll need an UltraSPARC
> based computer with a clock speed greater then 200 MHz. That means
> that a 250 MHz ULtra 30 or a 300 MHz Ultra 2 will be your cheapest
> options.

Actually, Ultra-5 or -10 might be less expensive. OTOH, Sun machines with
IDE interfaces are probably not the best to learn something about the
hardware.

I did forget to ask: What is your budget?

[lival]

Thanks again for the quick responses. I would like to stay as low cost as
reasonable for performance... ie.. I dont mind running something equiv to a
p3 when compared to a p4 but I certainly wouldn't want to run on a sparc 5.
Thanks again..Any references you can share would be great for best practices
and such. I am Linux/UX/Windows guy currently... (yeah.. I know.. don't
mention the W or M word on a unix group..

Thanks
"Dave Uhring" <daveu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.07.18....@yahoo.com...

[Dave Uhring]

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:33:06 +0000, lival wrote:

Top posting corrected. Please place your responses *below* your quoted
material.

> "Dave Uhring" <daveu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.07.18....@yahoo.com...
>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:33:10 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:
>>
>> > I'd start with S10. With that in mind, you'lll need an UltraSPARC
>> > based computer with a clock speed greater then 200 MHz. That means
>> > that a 250 MHz ULtra 30 or a 300 MHz Ultra 2 will be your cheapest
>> > options.
>>
>> Actually, Ultra-5 or -10 might be less expensive. OTOH, Sun machines with
>> IDE interfaces are probably not the best to learn something about the
>> hardware.
>>
>> I did forget to ask: What is your budget?
>>

> Thanks again for the quick responses. I would like to stay as low cost as

> reasonable for performance... ie.. I dont mind running something equiv to a
> p3 when compared to a p4 but I certainly wouldn't want to run on a sparc 5.
> Thanks again..Any references you can share would be great for best practices
> and such. I am Linux/UX/Windows guy currently... (yeah.. I know.. don't
> mention the W or M word on a unix group..

Well, that was not much of an answer to my question.

One other resource I forgot to mention is http://www.sun.com/bigadmin

You should probably consider Rich Teer's suggestions regarding machines
but be aware that neither, at their cost, is going to run like a 3GHz P4
machine.

[Lival]

Thx for your responses. Just picked up a couple netra t1 105 machines with
360 mhz processors.

"netnews.comcast.net" <li...@4-sc.net> wrote in message
news:e5kKc.103255$a24.100801@attbi_s03...

[Rich Teer]

On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Lival wrote:

Please don't top post.

> Thx for your responses. Just picked up a couple netra t1 105 machines with
> 360 mhz processors.

Nice machines - but be aware that those are servers, not
desktop machines.

[Torsten Kirschner]

Rich Teer wrote on Sunday 18 July 2004 21:28 :

> On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Lival wrote:
>
> Please don't top post.
>
>> Thx for your responses. Just picked up a couple netra t1 105 machines
>> with 360 mhz processors.
>
> Nice machines - but be aware that those are servers, not
> desktop machines.
>

IMHO, it's the only way to go. Except for some of the latest servers (V250)
or workstations, all Sun gear makes a lot of noise by today's standards.
A server, positioned strategically in the most remote corner of a
home(/cellar/garage/...), with an old terminal attached as a console, is
just fine. Everything else can be done remote over the LAN.

[lival]

Yah I looked them up on the sun site.. Ended up getting three of them. Now I
am looking for a desktop. :)

Thanks again

"Torsten Kirschner" <torsten....@sandbox.no> wrote in message
news:40fa...@news.broadpark.no...

[David Combs]

I've got a blade100; works fine for me.

(comments?)

Thanks,

David