Solaris 11.2 Sparc Installation

[alex....@gmail.com]

Hi

Please suggest which software, I should download for Solaris 11.2 sparc installation on Virtual box.

Regards
Alex

[Andrew Gabriel]

In article <80d82fef-cb4d-4b2c...@googlegroups.com>,

alex....@gmail.com writes:
> Hi
>
> Please suggest which software, I should download for Solaris 11.2 sparc installation on Virtual box.

Virtualbox doesn't support sparc, as either host or guest.

You can run Solaris x86 in virtualbox (and
you can run virtualbox on Solaris x86).

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[hume.sp...@bofh.ca]

alex....@gmail.com wrote:
> Please suggest which software, I should download for Solaris 11.2 sparc installation on Virtual box.

There is no such software. Virtualbox can't create SPARC VMs. It's a
hypervisor, not an emulator.

The only SPARC emulator I can name off the top of my head is QEMU. I don't
know how well, if at all, Solaris 11.2 will run inside it. And remember,
it isn't Virtualbox.

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[invalid]

On 2014-12-19, hume.sp...@bofh.ca <hume.sp...@bofh.ca> wrote:
> alex....@gmail.com wrote:
>> Please suggest which software, I should download for Solaris 11.2 sparc installation on Virtual box.
>
> There is no such software. Virtualbox can't create SPARC VMs. It's a
> hypervisor, not an emulator.
>
> The only SPARC emulator I can name off the top of my head is QEMU.

Me too but there is another one. It was free for student & noncom use but
was bought by a company that quickly made all the free stuff disappear. It
(whatever the name is) can actually emulate quite a lot of machines with a
software design that supports pluggable CPU modules etc. so you can
configure something like a real machine with specific CPUs. Neat piece of
software. If you can get a copy you can run a SPARC VM. If that doesn't work
then you can probably buy a cheap box on ebay that supports ldoms. Does a
T2000 support ldoms btw? If so that would be a good deal.

> I don't know how well, if at all, Solaris 11.2 will run inside it.

qemu won't support 11.2 or even 10 and I am not sure about 9. qemu sparc 32
bit works great. If s9 runs on 32 bit hardware you could try that. But the 64
bit version is not there yet so s10 and 11 definitely will not run. I
suspect it will be ready in a year or two. People are working on it. But now
there is no way.

> And remember,
> it isn't Virtualbox.

Yeah. Qemu is dog slow. But it's neat you can run non Wintel stuff on shitty
hardware. If a T2000 supports ldoms that's the way to go.

[invalid]

SIMICS is the one I was thinking of. Some mention here

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/160800/sparc-assembly

[Andrew Gabriel]

In article <m74i4i$lik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,

invalid <add...@is.invalid> writes:
> On 2014-12-19, hume.sp...@bofh.ca <hume.sp...@bofh.ca> wrote:
>> alex....@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Please suggest which software, I should download for Solaris 11.2 sparc installation on Virtual box.
>>
>> There is no such software. Virtualbox can't create SPARC VMs. It's a
>> hypervisor, not an emulator.
>>
>> The only SPARC emulator I can name off the top of my head is QEMU.
>
> Me too but there is another one. It was free for student & noncom use but
> was bought by a company that quickly made all the free stuff disappear. It
> (whatever the name is) can actually emulate quite a lot of machines with a
> software design that supports pluggable CPU modules etc. so you can
> configure something like a real machine with specific CPUs. Neat piece of
> software. If you can get a copy you can run a SPARC VM. If that doesn't work
> then you can probably buy a cheap box on ebay that supports ldoms. Does a
> T2000 support ldoms btw? If so that would be a good deal.

Transitive was another one. 10 years ago, they were emulating SPARC
on amd64 faster than SPARC could run natively at the time, but they
got bought by HP and then IBM, and that product never launched.
(It contained Sun IP, and there may have been limitations in what
could be done with the product if it was sold to a Sun competitor.)
They did use parts of it in their QuickTransit product later whilst
owned by HP, but that all died when IBM bought them, and then their
products all vanished AFAIK.

[Casper H.S. Dik]

invalid <add...@is.invalid> writes:

>Me too but there is another one. It was free for student & noncom use but
>was bought by a company that quickly made all the free stuff disappear. It
>(whatever the name is) can actually emulate quite a lot of machines with a
>software design that supports pluggable CPU modules etc. so you can
>configure something like a real machine with specific CPUs. Neat piece of
>software. If you can get a copy you can run a SPARC VM. If that doesn't work
>then you can probably buy a cheap box on ebay that supports ldoms. Does a
>T2000 support ldoms btw? If so that would be a good deal.

The T2000 supports ldoms (but possibly only with an older version)

>> I don't know how well, if at all, Solaris 11.2 will run inside it.

>qemu won't support 11.2 or even 10 and I am not sure about 9. qemu sparc 32
>bit works great. If s9 runs on 32 bit hardware you could try that. But the 64
>bit version is not there yet so s10 and 11 definitely will not run. I
>suspect it will be ready in a year or two. People are working on it. But now
>there is no way.

Solaris 9 was the last release which supported 32 bit SPARC kernels.


Casper

[invalid]

On 2014-12-20, Casper H.S Dik <Caspe...@OrSPaMcle.COM> wrote:
> invalid <add...@is.invalid> writes:
>
>>Me too but there is another one. It was free for student & noncom use but
>>was bought by a company that quickly made all the free stuff disappear. It
>>(whatever the name is) can actually emulate quite a lot of machines with a
>>software design that supports pluggable CPU modules etc. so you can
>>configure something like a real machine with specific CPUs. Neat piece of
>>software. If you can get a copy you can run a SPARC VM. If that doesn't work
>>then you can probably buy a cheap box on ebay that supports ldoms. Does a
>>T2000 support ldoms btw? If so that would be a good deal.
>
> The T2000 supports ldoms (but possibly only with an older version)

An older version of T2000? obp? Solaris? How can we know for sure before
buying a box whether it supports ldom on the latest Solaris 11?

>
>>> I don't know how well, if at all, Solaris 11.2 will run inside it.
>
>>qemu won't support 11.2 or even 10 and I am not sure about 9. qemu sparc 32
>>bit works great. If s9 runs on 32 bit hardware you could try that. But the 64
>>bit version is not there yet so s10 and 11 definitely will not run. I
>>suspect it will be ready in a year or two. People are working on it. But now
>>there is no way.
>
> Solaris 9 was the last release which supported 32 bit SPARC kernels.

I thought so but couldn't be sure. Thanks for the information.

[Drazen Kacar]

invalid wrote:
> On 2014-12-20, Casper H.S Dik <Caspe...@OrSPaMcle.COM> wrote:
> > invalid <add...@is.invalid> writes:
> >
> > The T2000 supports ldoms (but possibly only with an older version)
>
> An older version of T2000? obp? Solaris? How can we know for sure before
> buying a box whether it supports ldom on the latest Solaris 11?

Older version of LDOM software.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_VM_Server_for_SPARC

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[invalid]

On 2014-12-21, Drazen Kacar <da...@fly.srk.fer.hr> wrote:
> invalid wrote:
>> On 2014-12-20, Casper H.S Dik <Caspe...@OrSPaMcle.COM> wrote:
>> > invalid <add...@is.invalid> writes:
>> >
>> > The T2000 supports ldoms (but possibly only with an older version)
>>
>> An older version of T2000? obp? Solaris? How can we know for sure before
>> buying a box whether it supports ldom on the latest Solaris 11?
>
> Older version of LDOM software.

I didn't realize that was a separate software product. I thought it was part
of the OS.

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_VM_Server_for_SPARC

Didn't look too hard but I guess Oracle has a chart somewhere that describes
what features go with what ldom versions. Anyway T2000s have been cheap,
sounds like a deal.

[YTC#1]

On 21/12/2014 09:22, invalid wrote:
> On 2014-12-20, Casper H.S Dik <Caspe...@OrSPaMcle.COM> wrote:
>> invalid <add...@is.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> Me too but there is another one. It was free for student & noncom use but
>>> was bought by a company that quickly made all the free stuff disappear. It
>>> (whatever the name is) can actually emulate quite a lot of machines with a
>>> software design that supports pluggable CPU modules etc. so you can
>>> configure something like a real machine with specific CPUs. Neat piece of
>>> software. If you can get a copy you can run a SPARC VM. If that doesn't work
>>> then you can probably buy a cheap box on ebay that supports ldoms. Does a
>>> T2000 support ldoms btw? If so that would be a good deal.
>>
>> The T2000 supports ldoms (but possibly only with an older version)
>
> An older version of T2000? obp? Solaris? How can we know for sure before
> buying a box whether it supports ldom on the latest Solaris 11?
>
>>

Look for a T5220, they seem to sell fairly cheaply



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[Casper H.S. Dik]

invalid <add...@is.invalid> writes:

>I didn't realize that was a separate software product. I thought it was part
>of the OS.

The most recent version is shipped as part of the OS; but older
bits of hardware are not supported.

Casper

[invalid]

On 2014-12-21, YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:

>>
>> An older version of T2000? obp? Solaris? How can we know for sure before
>> buying a box whether it supports ldom on the latest Solaris 11?
>>
>>>
>
> Look for a T5220, they seem to sell fairly cheaply

Not too shabby! Thanks for the tip!

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