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Michael Laajanen

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Jan 12, 2004, 1:35:01 PM1/12/04
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HI,

Some time ago I posted a Question regarding "USB Multimemory card
reader" also got response, however I did find a very cheap device that I
just like to inform works great.

I contains 8 memory card readers in 1, works under atleast S9/sparc 0803
MU4.

http://www.hama.de/hama/shop.jsp?sid=0FC5616CCA87898D2108DEA94ED177D

Product 00046945, in Sweden sold in Cumputer City, 18 EURO.

I use it for a Sony MS.


/michael

David Magda

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Jan 12, 2004, 5:14:46 PM1/12/04
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Michael Laajanen <michael.laajanen.no-spam.@telia.com> writes:
[...]

> I use it for a Sony MS.

Have you used it at all with Sony's Pro, Duo and Pro Duo cards?

--
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Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under
the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well
under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI

Michael Laajanen

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Jan 13, 2004, 3:45:47 AM1/13/04
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Hi,

David Magda wrote:
> Michael Laajanen <michael.laajanen.no-spam.@telia.com> writes:
> [...]
>
>>I use it for a Sony MS.
>
>
> Have you used it at all with Sony's Pro, Duo and Pro Duo cards?
>

No I have no PRO card at the moment, but iwould a PRO make a difference
from Solaris point of view?

/michael


Julian Thomas

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Jan 13, 2004, 8:41:51 AM1/13/04
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Hi!

do you think it would be work with Sun Ray's?

Thanks

Julian

Michael Laajanen

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Jan 13, 2004, 10:29:51 AM1/13/04
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HI,
NO I don't think so, USB in Sunray is unfortunately implemented in a
differnent way from what I understand.

I have not heard when or if Sun would make this possible, maybe Frits
could shere some lights on this issue?

/michael

David Magda

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Jan 13, 2004, 7:15:03 PM1/13/04
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Michael Laajanen <michael.laajanen.no-spam.@telia.com> writes:

> No I have no PRO card at the moment, but iwould a PRO make a
> difference from Solaris point of view?

Probably not. I simply wanted to know from the USB reader's view.

All the new memory sticks are named similiarly that it's difficult
for a newbie to get all the labels straight.

Michael Laajanen

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Jan 14, 2004, 3:32:43 AM1/14/04
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HI,

David Magda wrote:
> Michael Laajanen <michael.laajanen.no-spam.@telia.com> writes:
>
>
>>No I have no PRO card at the moment, but iwould a PRO make a
>>difference from Solaris point of view?
>
>
> Probably not. I simply wanted to know from the USB reader's view.
>
> All the new memory sticks are named similiarly that it's difficult
> for a newbie to get all the labels straight.
>
I will go and "try then by" a PRO stick if available in the easy shops,
if I find a PRO stick I get beck.

/michael

frits vanderlinden

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Jan 14, 2004, 9:12:19 AM1/14/04
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M
> > do you think it would be work with Sun Ray's?
> >
> NO I don't think so, USB in Sunray is unfortunately implemented in a
> differnent way from what I understand.
>
> I have not heard when or if Sun would make this possible, maybe Frits
> could shere some lights on this issue?
>

USB mass storage support is in the pipeline for Sun Ray. As you may
know, the Sun Ray USB stack is very different from the Solaris stack.

Our common USB API will be libusb but that won't help with mass storage


fritS

Michael Laajanen

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Jan 14, 2004, 10:38:25 AM1/14/04
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HI,

frits vanderlinden wrote:
> M
>
>>>do you think it would be work with Sun Ray's?
>>>
>>
>>NO I don't think so, USB in Sunray is unfortunately implemented in a
>>differnent way from what I understand.
>>
>>I have not heard when or if Sun would make this possible, maybe Frits
>>could shere some lights on this issue?
>>
>
>
> USB mass storage support is in the pipeline for Sun Ray. As you may
> know, the Sun Ray USB stack is very different from the Solaris stack.
"In" the pipeline should mean work inprogress right :)

When is a early SunRay USB mass storage to be available? Will that come
as a patch to SRSS 2.0 or in a later version of SRSS?


/michael

Colin Anderson

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Jan 22, 2004, 11:41:36 AM1/22/04
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fr...@sun.com (frits vanderlinden) wrote in message news:<5ca606fb.0401...@posting.google.com>...

> M
> > > do you think it would be work with Sun Ray's?
> > >
> > NO I don't think so, USB in Sunray is unfortunately implemented in a
> > differnent way from what I understand.
> >
> > I have not heard when or if Sun would make this possible, maybe Frits
> > could shere some lights on this issue?
> >
>
> USB mass storage support is in the pipeline for Sun Ray. As you may
> know, the Sun Ray USB stack is very different from the Solaris stack.

USB mass storage support would **really** help my university. Several
SunRay1 setups were recently installed, but are only lightly used.
There's a huge demand for "usb flash keychain" storage support and
perhaps support for a couple usb floppy drives. The Wintel PC crowd is
attached to their pocket usb storage devices and the occasional
floppy, but are willing to give the SunRays a try.

David Combs

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Jan 23, 2004, 10:31:07 PM1/23/04
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Any chance on sunblade-100?

Or is just an absurd question?

David


Bob Palowoda

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Jan 24, 2004, 6:51:26 AM1/24/04
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co...@beyondboxes.com (Colin Anderson) wrote in message news:<66ce502.04012...@posting.google.com>...

Wasn't the idea behind the Sunray *not* to be able to pull data
off the server for security reasons?

---Bob

Richard L. Hamilton

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Jan 24, 2004, 8:36:46 AM1/24/04
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In article <5aa351b8.04012...@posting.google.com>,

First time I ever heard that one. Usual reasons are administration
is all on the server, so that the SunRays are just plug and go, and
the hot-desking; and some like the quiet and low power consumption.

Still, you have a point - it would probably be very good to be able to
disable on the server the ability to support USB storage devices on the
SunRay, for those that clearly didn't want such a capability. Perhaps it
would even be useful some places to (in addition to globally allowing or
disallowing it) be able to optionally specify by MAC address a limited
list of SunRays that were the only ones allowed to use USB storage
devices, or alternately be able to set things up so that it could only be
used when authenticated, and then be able to limit it to only being used
by specified accounts. That is, there may be those that want it, there
may be those that definitely don't want it, and there may be those that
want to restrict it to only certain devices (presumably if hot-desking is
not enabled) or accounts (presumably if it is). Perhaps it might even be
desirable to be able to disallow, on similar criteria, other types of USB
devices (other than keyboard and mouse, perhaps).

Not having had the opportunity to get a good look at the SunRay server
software, I have no idea how difficult any of that might be, in terms
of either software changes or configuration.

--
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Ottomeister

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Jan 24, 2004, 5:22:57 PM1/24/04
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Richard.L...@mindwarp.smart.net (Richard L. Hamilton) wrote:
> palo...@fiver.net (Bob Palowoda) writes:
> > co...@beyondboxes.com (Colin Anderson) wrote:

> >> fr...@sun.com (frits vanderlinden) wrote:
> >> > USB mass storage support is in the pipeline for Sun Ray. As you may
> >> > know, the Sun Ray USB stack is very different from the Solaris stack.
> >>
> >> USB mass storage support would **really** help my university. [...]

> >
> > Wasn't the idea behind the Sunray *not* to be able to pull data
> > off the server for security reasons?
>
> First time I ever heard that one. Usual reasons are administration
> is all on the server, so that the SunRays are just plug and go, and
> the hot-desking; and some like the quiet and low power consumption.

Right. Everything you ever see on a Sun Ray screen, except for
some locally-generated icons, is data that has been pulled off a
server. (Of course really it's data that's been *pushed by* the
server, the Sun Ray only gets what the server chooses to gives it.)
You can already hook up things like printers and serial devices to
a Sun Ray, and on a good day when the moon is in a certain phase
and the wind is blowing from the right direction you can sync
some types of PDA through a Sun Ray. The ability to drive USB
mass storage, scanners and the like is just more of the same.

> Still, you have a point - it would probably be very good to be able to
> disable on the server the ability to support USB storage devices on the
> SunRay, for those that clearly didn't want such a capability.

Yes indeed, that's part of the plan.

> Perhaps it
> would even be useful some places to (in addition to globally allowing or
> disallowing it) be able to optionally specify by MAC address a limited
> list of SunRays that were the only ones allowed to use USB storage
> devices, or alternately be able to set things up so that it could only be
> used when authenticated, and then be able to limit it to only being used
> by specified accounts. That is, there may be those that want it, there
> may be those that definitely don't want it, and there may be those that
> want to restrict it to only certain devices (presumably if hot-desking is
> not enabled) or accounts (presumably if it is). Perhaps it might even be
> desirable to be able to disallow, on similar criteria, other types of USB
> devices (other than keyboard and mouse, perhaps).

All that would be great and it's all on the wish list. As are
all kinds of things, including for instance the ability to grant
different kinds of sessions on a per-subnet, per-card or per-unit
basis: this unit gets "kiosk" mode, this unit gets offered a
login, this one requires a smartcard whereas this one (which
lives in a locked room) doesn't, this one grants a login session
when a specific smartcard is presented but presents a kiosk when
other cards are inserted, and so on.

> Not having had the opportunity to get a good look at the SunRay server
> software, I have no idea how difficult any of that might be, in terms
> of either software changes or configuration.

Getting it to work is not an enormous technical hurdle. There's
some challenge in making it manageable, there's enough rope here
for people to hang themselves many times over. The reasons why
you won't see these features in the product anytime soon are the
usual ones, priorities and bounded resources. Big surprise, eh?

OttoM.
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ottomeister (no longer @my-deja.com, now @mail.com)

Disclaimer: These are my opinions. I do not speak for my employer.

Casper H.S. Dik

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Jan 25, 2004, 4:31:04 AM1/25/04
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palo...@fiver.net (Bob Palowoda) writes:

>Wasn't the idea behind the Sunray *not* to be able to pull data
>off the server for security reasons?

It's many different things such as:

a noise, heat free office environment
central administration point
session mobility
no history of the previous session

People really like to be able to exchange documents with work; in
environments where it is not allowed to take data off the premises
SunRAY would allow you to centrally deny the use of USB for storage
devices.

Casper
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Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

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