OpenLook, CDE Motif, or OpenStep
Dan Menchaca
From what people tell me they like OpenWindow. Then they announce that
they will support COSE's Common Desktop Enviroment which is based on Motif.
This actually makes sense. Now they said they are going to use the
NeXTStep interface in what they call OpenStep.
Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!! What will it be next.
Well, here are some questions:
1) When will Solaris support CDE. Will Solaris still run OpenWindows
applications?
2) When will Solaris incorperate OpenStep? Will you be able to use Motif
GUIs too? And of course, can you run OpenWindows apps?
Stuart John Cochran
>
> 1) When will Solaris support CDE.
Back end of '94 I believe. I expect Solaris 2.4 to include CDE as an unbudled
product in June '94.
> Will Solaris still run OpenWindows applications?
Yes.
> 2) When will Solaris incorperate OpenStep?
Possibly around the same time as the CDE support, I forget the exact date.
> Will you be able to use Motif GUIs too?
Solaris will support OpenWindows, CDE, OpenStep and Wabi applications on the
same desktop. As a minimum cut/copy/paste will be fully supported between
applications and I am expecting full drag 'n' drop support too (but maybe not
in the first place).
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Stuart Cochran, BT Laboratories, s...@zoo.bt.co.uk
Chris Flatters
>From what people tell me they like OpenWindow. Then they announce that
>they will support COSE's Common Desktop Enviroment which is based on Motif.
> This actually makes sense. Now they said they are going to use the
>NeXTStep interface in what they call OpenStep.
>Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!! What will it be next.
>
>Well, here are some questions:
>
>1) When will Solaris support CDE. Will Solaris still run OpenWindows
>applications?
In the current scheme of things the next release of Solaris should include
the CDE, although it will not be the default user environment. This should
be shipping sometime in the second half of this year; my guess would be
sometime around September.
>2) When will Solaris incorperate OpenStep? Will you be able to use Motif
>GUIs too? And of course, can you run OpenWindows apps?
As of last December, Sun were saying that the OpenStep APIs and
programming tools would be available on Solaris in early 1995. It
isn't clear to me whether this will be a standard part of the kit or an
optional extra. Neither is it clear what will happen with to OpenStep
GUI; presumably it gets converted to X11 and possibly motificated
(motifisized?) in which case it will happily coexist with both Motif
and OPEN LOOK applications and any other breed of X client.
Chris Flatters
cfla...@nrao.edu
James Litchfield - SunSoft Western Area OS Person
> In article 280294...@mac7.kip.apple.com, Dan_Menchaca*@quickmail.apple.com (Dan Menchaca) writes:
> >Well, here are some questions:
> >
> >1) When will Solaris support CDE. Will Solaris still run OpenWindows
> >applications?
>
> In the current scheme of things the next release of Solaris should include
> the CDE, although it will not be the default user environment. This should
> be shipping sometime in the second half of this year; my guess would be
> sometime around September.
>
Probably not. CDE time schedules don't permit a stable enough version of CDE to
be available in time for integration into the next OS release. It would have to
have been available a month or so ago (at least) and they're still doing
developer's cuts of the product. I believe there will be some discussion of
the CDE delivery schedule at the SunSoft Solaris Developer's Conference to be held
in early April in San Francisco.
Vic Cinc
we have given up up our iminent porting of openview applications
to motif, and are awaiting the sun nextstep port. In my view Motif
is a dead duck.
vic
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Marc Fraioli
>>GUIs too? And of course, can you run OpenWindows apps?
>
>As of last December, Sun were saying that the OpenStep APIs and
>programming tools would be available on Solaris in early 1995. It
>isn't clear to me whether this will be a standard part of the kit or an
>optional extra. Neither is it clear what will happen with to OpenStep
>GUI; presumably it gets converted to X11 and possibly motificated
>(motifisized?) in which case it will happily coexist with both Motif
>and OPEN LOOK applications and any other breed of X client.
>
similar discussion occurred on comp.sys.sun.misc around the time of the
original announcement. I eventually contacted my Sun technical rep, and
he explained it to me. OpenStep, he says, is just an API for an object
layer. It falls below the UI, and is UI-independent. The Solaris interface
for the foreseeable future will be the Motif-based CDE. Next is doing a port
of the full NextStep operating system to the SPARC architecture, but this
is really NextStep-- it has nothing to do with Solaris at all, and won't
run Solaris applications. Solaris itself will not be adopting Next's GUI--
only the object API. It should make apps easier to port between NextStep
and Solaris, but interface code will still have to be rewritten. OpenWindows
will be X-based, with DPS, as COSE specifies.
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Marc Fraioli | HAIL ANTS!
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