On 12/23/11 11:03, David Kirkby wrote:
> BTW, I received the IBM server yesterday, but it will need to be
> returned to the seller. First the RAM is not 2 x 4 GB modules as
> described, but 8 x 1 GB. Secondly, and more serious, one of the
> heatsinks is floating around inside, as it looks like a clip that is
> supposed to hold it to the motherboard has been pulled out. The
> company has another server, but not the RAM.
> They don't seem keen to give me the amount off to allow me to buy the
> RAM from elsewhere, as a pair of 4 GB RAM modules are quite expensive.
> They have offered me a Dell R610 with a pair of E5506 processors, but
> want more money for it. Although the E5506 processor is a newer model
> than the X5460 used in the IBM server, it is much slower (2.13 vs 3.16
> GHz) and has a much smaller cache (3 MB vs 12 MB). The Dell seems to
> have a much cheaper processor. I personally think it will be a slower
> machine, so paying more for it does not seem too attractive. That
> said, it can be upgraded more, as faster processors can be installed,
> as can a lot more RAM.
> So I seem to be a bit stuck now, but at least my Sun is more usable
> now it has 24 GB RAM.
Have no experience of Dell servers, but the dell desktops that i've used
have always seemed a bit flimsy and plasticky in engineering terms. Servers
may be better, but probably better to avoid and ask for a refund. Have had
2 or 3 heavy-ish items damaged in transit in the past 2 or 3 years and have
found the ebay vendors cooperative, with a complete refund in every
always ask for jpg's of the damage, then I assume that they just put in an
insurance claim with their carrier. In one case, the vendor didn't even
to collect the unit, even after reminders. Ended up with a set of spares,
but did buy another machines from them soon after, which *was* properly
Best way though is to collect if they are within reasonable driving
as all the couriers seem to chuck stuff around a bit.
Found these on Ebay:
The g5's are quite a bit cheaper than the g6's, which are still current,
but don't know how they would stack up against the ibm or dell. Apologies
for the compaq plug, but the proliants remind me more of the dec minis
1980's rather than the paper thin metal kit that you see these days. Appeals
to the engineer in me, I guess :-).
Took a chance on a pallet load (6) of "partially tested" (ie: do the
and fans come on :-), v240's a few weeks ago on ebay. All of them work,
pci boards, inc fibre channel controllers etc. Most are dual 1Ghz cpu,
up to 1.5 Ghz) various amounts of ram. Have wanted to rationalise to
to reduce power consumption. The v240 is considerably faster than the
which I was using for server and s/w dev. Firefox is slower than the
intel box, but
still a great improvement over the B1K and generally plenty fast enough
interactive work. There's also space for 4 drives, 2u high, though a tad
sit next to. Have S10 running on one for the server, Debian squeeze
on a second and all good so far. Both have XVR100 graphics cards fitted,
others are supported. One thing I really did mourn about Sun was their
giving up on
workstations, so quite pleased to find a reasonably modern server class
that has enough slots and obp support for later graphics cards. Keyboard
is usb as well,
so you can use a usb <-> mini din adapter to hook up to a kvm switch.
It's never been a better time to buy s/hand hardware to reequip your lab
most likely be even better come next spring/summer. Watchfullness and
the answer :-)...