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Visionfs Prining to USB HP1000 attached & shared on Win98

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Chip Webster

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Mar 12, 2002, 2:35:41 PM3/12/02
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Anyone been able to use hp1000 USB printer with Visionfs? After creating
I get no errors, but job fails to print. Changed spool settings to
RAW, but no help. Know sharing works as a canon parallel share works
fine on same machine. Even tried generic windows driver. NO LUCK.....

Thanks
Chip Webster
cwcom...@sc.rr.com

Brian K. White

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Mar 14, 2002, 3:11:02 AM3/14/02
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"Chip Webster" <cwcom...@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3C8E5895...@sc.rr.com...

> Anyone been able to use hp1000 USB printer with Visionfs? After creating
> I get no errors, but job fails to print. Changed spool settings to
> RAW, but no help. Know sharing works as a canon parallel share works
> fine on same machine. Even tried generic windows driver. NO LUCK.....

did you ever try reading the printers manual?
did you ever try looking up the model number on the hp web site?


From what I can tell by looking at:
http://www.hp.com/cposupport/printers/support_doc/bpl10969.html#P11_950
that printer does not have the necessary brains to print text on it's own,
it can only print raster data fed to it via the windows driver.

so unless ghostscript has a driver for it, you aint ptinting from unix to
this printer, unless you install printwizard from www.anzio.com and print
through a windows box. (or some other high level printer driver, but I
don't know of any besides printwizard)

I think this is a very back asswards way to print from unix though.
you take all the solidity of unix, and make it rely on a windows box to
get it's job done. And you saved maybe 90 bux buying a bottom-scraper
printer, and all you have to do is buy printwizard (wups now you din't
save any money anymore) and now you get to have slow, unreliable,
high-maintenance printing for the same price as tossing a $200-$300 hp or
brother laser that had basic pcl built in right on the server or on a
print-server or even on a pc is ok since the pc wouldn't have to do as
much work to print in that case.


This is not a slam against printwizard btw, it does do tons of other stuff
that makes it simply necessary in a lot of cases. Actual valuable
features. But you are only talking about simply being able to print text,
which should not require special programs to render 4k of text into 4megs
of graphics and then send that to the windwos driver and hope it
eventually comes out on a peice of paper looking like 4k of text.

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Bill Vermillion

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Mar 16, 2002, 10:34:55 AM3/16/02
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In article <qWYj8.230686$pN4.13...@bin8.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,

Brian K. White <br...@aljex.com> wrote:

>"Chip Webster" <cwcom...@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:3C8E5895...@sc.rr.com...
>> Anyone been able to use hp1000 USB printer with Visionfs? After creating
>> I get no errors, but job fails to print. Changed spool settings to
>> RAW, but no help. Know sharing works as a canon parallel share works
>> fine on same machine. Even tried generic windows driver. NO LUCK.....

>did you ever try reading the printers manual?

Did you ever see a decent manual with any recent printers :-)
[usally on a CD in a pdf format but that's not a manual that
permits you to make margin notes - or even marginal notes for that
matter].

:-)^32

Bill
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Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com

Chip Webster

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Mar 16, 2002, 8:29:17 PM3/16/02
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Thanks for reply , but question was has anyone used this printer
successfully. Unfortunately this is for a client that is 4 States away.
Don't have printer or manual.

Chip Webster

Brian K. White

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Mar 17, 2002, 1:23:22 PM3/17/02
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Chip Webster <cwcom...@sc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3C93F17C...@sc.rr.com>...

> Thanks for reply , but question was has anyone used this printer
> successfully. Unfortunately this is for a client that is 4 States away.
> Don't have printer or manual.

don't be put off by my confrontational style, I did in fact point out
what is probably the best-working and easiest-to-impliment way to go
ahead and use this printer just the way you need (IE: it's hooked up
to a windows PC)
PrintWizard at www.anzio.com

One of it's functions is to act as a sort of uber-printer-driver, you
install it on the PC, and from unix, via several different possible
methods, send it plain text or several varieties of pre-formatted text
(hp-pcl, html, epson/ibmpro dot-matrix, pwml, ps, ...) and it will use
windows to print it sucessfully to any printer that windows can print
to, including these "windows-only" printers.

I've used it and it works, and because of the way it works, I don't
have to have tested with this specific printer to be 99.999% sure it
will work for you.

I know it works with at least a couple different printers,
I know it just uses a windows graphics/printing API and doesn't really
know or care what kind of printer you actually have, or how it's
connected, so long as the printer is correctly installed and working
in windows itself.

Thus,

As long as you can go into Start-->Settings-->Printers
right-click on the printer in question,
select properties,
and print a test-page sucessfully.

And as long as you have some kind of connection between the server and
PC,
(this can be as little as a direct dial-up, or a tcp terminal session
from a AOL dialup (meaning no predictable IP for the PC), tcp
connections from behind foirewalls on both server and client ends...
so long as the terminal emulator supports passthru-print, and it
doesn't even have to be anzio either. Or it can be any of the other
common possibilities if the networking permits them: IE: smb, lpd,
hpnp, raw tcp (netcat), spool directory, ...)

Then it will work.

You'll probably have to use pcanywhere or vnc to do the install and
setup on the client pc. I don't recall how complicated the setup was
in detail. it was just a few minutes for me, and surely the same for
you, but users are notoriously bad at following directions and reading
minds and knowing when what they are looking at does not match what we
are telling them about and somehow always managing to find the *wrong*
"little yellow folder with the up-arrow in it" when there should only
be *one*...

Chip Webster

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Mar 17, 2002, 11:06:38 PM3/17/02
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Brian thank you for your time and input, I didn't mean to sound
condescending. Just had no hardware to test locally. glad to known
should have worked. Thanks again

Chip Webster

Bob Rasmussen

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Mar 19, 2002, 12:58:16 PM3/19/02
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Thanks, Brian, for a pretty accurate description of Print Wizard. Just one
correction below...

On 17 Mar 2002, Brian K. White wrote:

> One of it's functions is to act as a sort of uber-printer-driver, you
> install it on the PC, and from unix, via several different possible
> methods, send it plain text or several varieties of pre-formatted text
> (hp-pcl, html, epson/ibmpro dot-matrix, pwml, ps, ...) and it will use
> windows to print it sucessfully to any printer that windows can print
> to, including these "windows-only" printers.

Print Wizard is primarily geared to process either plain text or Print Wizard
Markup Language (PWML), or some kinds of HTML. If you feed it anything with
escape codes, such as PCL, Epson codes, etc., it will detect that and go into
transparent mode, and not do any further processing. But the escape codes MUST
BE RIGHT for the printer they're going to.

At some point in the future, we will parse and translate PCL codes, and print
them on any printer.

Regards,
....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc.

personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com
company e-mail: r...@anzio.com
voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time)
fax: (US) 503-624-0760
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