Announcing C-Kermit 8.0 Beta.03

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Frank da Cruz

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Sep 10, 2001, 5:55:29 PM9/10/01
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C-Kermit 8.0 Beta.03 is available for testing:

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck80.html

This should be one of the last test releases before the
final 8.0 release, so please give it a spin. New features
include:

. A scriptable secure FTP client.
. A scriptable secure HTTP client.
. A scriptable secure Telnet client.
. A scriptable SSH client.
. Learned scripts.

Built-in security methods include Kerberos IV, Kerberos V,
SSL/TLS, and SRP. SSH is available through your external
ssh client. And yes, of course C-Kermit is also still a
lowly modem program.

C-Kermit 8.0 Beta.03 has been built and somewhat tested on
Xenix 2.3.4, UNIX 3.2v4.2, OSR5.0.2, OSR5.0.5, OSR5.0.6,
Unixware 2.1.0, 2.1.3, 7.0.1, and 7.1.1, and on Open Unix
8.0.0. If you can build it on other SCO platforms, please
let me know.

Thanks!

- Frank

Tony Lawrence

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Sep 10, 2001, 6:37:43 PM9/10/01
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Frank- that's great news, especially the ssh client. What changed your mind
about ssh? Last time I mentioned it to you you said you couldn't or
wouldn't, and that it was more than licensing issues.. obviously the
licensing problems went away but what else changed? Oh, well, I'm just glad
it did!

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job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com

Ian Peattie

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Sep 11, 2001, 5:03:47 AM9/11/01
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In article <9njcsh$93f$1...@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>, f...@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote:
>
>C-Kermit 8.0 Beta.03 is available for testing:
>
> http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck80.html

>C-Kermit 8.0 Beta.03 has been built and somewhat tested on


>Xenix 2.3.4, UNIX 3.2v4.2, OSR5.0.2, OSR5.0.5, OSR5.0.6,
>Unixware 2.1.0, 2.1.3, 7.0.1, and 7.1.1, and on Open Unix
>8.0.0. If you can build it on other SCO platforms, please
>let me know.

The build falls over for me at the final linking stage on OpenServer
5.0.5 with gcc and networking when using sco32v505netgccelf. Looks to be
a makefile problem.

% make sco32v505netgccelf
TCP/IP networking added - using gcc, dynamic elf library
make "MAKE=make" sco32v500net "CC=gcc" "CC2=gcc"
Making C-Kermit 8.0.200 for SCO OpenServer Release 5...
make xermit CC=gcc CC2=gcc KTARGET=${KTARGET:-sco32v500net} \
"CFLAGS= -O -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DSVR4 -DCK_SCOV5 -DCK_RTSCTS \
-DCK_CURSES -DCK_WREFRESH -DCK_NEWTERM -DSELECT -DSELECT_H \
-DNOGETUSERSHELL -DNOLSTAT -DNOLINKBITS -DTCPSOCKET \
-DNO_DNS_SRV " \
"LIBS=-lcurses -lsocket " "LNKFLAGS="
gcc -o wermit \
ckcmai.o ckclib.o ckutio.o ckufio.o \
ckcfns.o ckcfn2.o ckcfn3.o ckuxla.o \
ckcpro.o ckucmd.o ckuus2.o ckuus3.o \
ckuus4.o ckuus5.o ckuus6.o ckuus7.o \
ckuusx.o ckuusy.o ckuusr.o ckucns.o \
ckudia.o ckuscr.o ckcnet.o ckusig.o \
ckctel.o ckcuni.o ckupty.o ckcftp.o \
-lcurses -lsocket
"KFLAGS=-DSCO_OSR505 -DPOSIX -funsigned-char -O3 -belf " \
KTARGET=${KTARGET:-sco32v505netgccelf} LNKFLAGS="-belf"
sh: KFLAGS=-DSCO_OSR505 -DPOSIX -funsigned-char -O3 -belf : not found
*** Error code 1 (bu21)


Building with sco32v505netgcc works (and produces an elf binary anyway).

Ian.

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Ian Peattie i...@john-richard.co.uk
Edinburgh, Scotland.

Frank da Cruz

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Sep 12, 2001, 11:27:45 AM9/12/01
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In article <9nkk1j$o2k$1...@odin.john-richard.co.uk>,
Ian Peattie <i...@john-richard.co.uk> wrote:

: In article <9njcsh$93f$1...@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>, f...@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote:
: >
: >C-Kermit 8.0 Beta.03 is available for testing:
: >
: > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck80.html
:
: >C-Kermit 8.0 Beta.03 has been built and somewhat tested on
: >Xenix 2.3.4, UNIX 3.2v4.2, OSR5.0.2, OSR5.0.5, OSR5.0.6,
: >Unixware 2.1.0, 2.1.3, 7.0.1, and 7.1.1, and on Open Unix
: >8.0.0. If you can build it on other SCO platforms, please
: >let me know.
:
: The build falls over for me at the final linking stage on OpenServer
: 5.0.5 with gcc and networking when using sco32v505netgccelf. Looks to be
: a makefile problem.
:
Yes, a backslash is missing. Thanks for noticing.

- Frank

Frank da Cruz

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Sep 12, 2001, 11:35:04 AM9/12/01
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In article <3B9D40D2...@pcunix.com>,
Tony Lawrence <to...@pcunix.com> wrote:
: Frank- that's great news, especially the ssh client. What changed your mind

: about ssh? Last time I mentioned it to you you said you couldn't or
: wouldn't, and that it was more than licensing issues.. obviously the
: licensing problems went away but what else changed? Oh, well, I'm just glad
: it did!
:
We didn't build ssh into C-Kermit; we simply added a way for C-Kermit to
use the external ssh program as a transport. This gives you file transfer,
scripting, and character-set translation over an ssh connection, and frees
us from having to worry about SSH v1 versus v2 and all the changes in the
ssh scenery, not to mention licensing and export issues. Let's hear it for
the UNIX building-block approach to software development.

Which is in stark contract to Windows, where we actually do have to build
SSH into our Kermit client, and it's taking months and months and months.

We are doing this simply because Kermit can't survive without it. No matter
whether SSH is a good idea or an extremely poor one, everybody is retiring
Telnet in favor of it, even if what they should be doing is securing their
sites with manageable security methods such as Kerberos (this applies most
emphatically to large companies, universities, and government agencies).
The trade-off, as always, is ease of use versus utility.

- Frank

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