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to...@aplawrence.com

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Aug 1, 2003, 3:37:00 PM8/1/03
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Is it just me?

I do NOT understand the upgrade pricing.

The price list I have says

Trade-In: All versions of SCO OpenServer prior to Release 5.0.6 or any
release of SCO Open Desktop, SCO UNIX, or SCO XENIX require a Trade-In
license to bring the system current with SCO OpenServer Release 5.0.7.
When using a Trade-In license to bring the system current with SCO
OpenServer Release 5.0.7 from any previous SCO Operating System listed
above, a Fresh installation is required. A Fresh installation and new
license is also required when upgrading SCO Merge 5.1 to NeTraverse Merg
e 5.3 on SCO OpenServer Release 5.0.7.

Inter-Edition Trade-In: Customers wishing to migrate from an SCO
OpenServer Desktop or SCO OpenServer Host System to the SCO OpenServer
Enterprise System must also purchase an Inter-Edition Trade-In license
a s well as an Upgrade or Trade-In license, to bring the system up to
the current SCO OpenServer Release 5.0.7.

Great. But if you add up the costs, that's the same as buying new!

So what part numbers do I really need for upgrades from
pre 5.0.6 and 3.2v4.2 ? Host to Host, Host to Enterprise, etc.

BTW, I've asked distributors and haven't had a sensible answer yet.

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Bill Burns

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Aug 1, 2003, 4:57:49 PM8/1/03
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to...@aplawrence.com wrote:

> Is it just me?
>
> I do NOT understand the upgrade pricing.
>
> The price list I have says
>
> Trade-In: All versions of SCO OpenServer prior to Release 5.0.6
> or any release of SCO Open Desktop, SCO UNIX, or SCO XENIX require
> a Trade-In license to bring the system current with SCO OpenServer
> Release 5.0.7. When using a Trade-In license to bring the system
> current with SCO OpenServer Release 5.0.7 from any previous SCO
> Operating System listed above, a Fresh installation is required.
> A Fresh installation and new license is also required when
> upgrading SCO Merge 5.1 to NeTraverse Merg e 5.3 on SCO OpenServer
> Release 5.0.7.
>
> Inter-Edition Trade-In: Customers wishing to migrate from an SCO
> OpenServer Desktop or SCO OpenServer Host System to the SCO
> OpenServer Enterprise System must also purchase an Inter-Edition
> Trade-In license a s well as an Upgrade or Trade-In license, to
> bring the system up to the current SCO OpenServer Release 5.0.7.
>
> Great. But if you add up the costs, that's the same as buying
> new!
>
> So what part numbers do I really need for upgrades from
> pre 5.0.6 and 3.2v4.2 ? Host to Host, Host to Enterprise, etc.
>
> BTW, I've asked distributors and haven't had a sensible answer
> yet.

In June, after some discussion on this subject with Tony, I asked DTR
Business Systems to quote a similar upgrade - 5.0.5 Host to 5.0.7
Enterprise, and they came up with what Tony says - about the same as
buying new.

In July, I converted two SCO 5.0.5 clients (12-user, and 6-user) and
one Novell client (40-user) to RedHat Linux 9 instead of doing SCO
upgrades. My time charges for the Linux conversions came out about the
same as for SCO in-place upgrades or fresh installs.

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Ken Morley

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Aug 4, 2003, 3:28:25 PM8/4/03
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Bill:

I don't know if the following is relevant to you, but this is my own
experience with a SCO OpenServer upgrade (V5.0.2 to V5.0.7):

According to SCO, you only need to purchase the electronic upgrade
license for the base O/S. Then, there is an OSS that you must apply
to allow you to install your old user bump licenses on the new 5.0.7
box.

So, you have to buy the O/S upgrade ($350 - $400 or so) regardless of
how many users the box supports.

I hope that this helps!

Bob Bailin

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Aug 5, 2003, 5:03:18 PM8/5/03
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"Ken Morley" <k...@jmtg.com> wrote in message
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The real problem occurs not when simply going from, say, 5.0.2 to 5.0.7,
but when you're going from 5.0.2 Host to 5.0.7 Enterprise. That dual-
transition requires an additional upgrade license, and the sum of the
two upgrade licenses is equal to the cost of a new 5.0.7 Enterprise
license. So why bother?

Bob


John Boland

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Aug 11, 2003, 10:48:28 AM8/11/03
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to...@aplawrence.com wrote in message news:<bgefgs$viq$3...@pcls4.std.com>...

> Is it just me?
>
> I do NOT understand the upgrade pricing.
>
> The price list I have says
>
> Trade-In: All versions of SCO OpenServer prior to Release 5.0.6 or any
> release of SCO Open Desktop, SCO UNIX, or SCO XENIX require a Trade-In
> license to bring the system current with SCO OpenServer Release 5.0.7.
> When using a Trade-In license to bring the system current with SCO
> OpenServer Release 5.0.7 from any previous SCO Operating System listed
> above, a Fresh installation is required. A Fresh installation and new
> license is also required when upgrading SCO Merge 5.1 to NeTraverse Merg
> e 5.3 on SCO OpenServer Release 5.0.7.
>
> Inter-Edition Trade-In: Customers wishing to migrate from an SCO
> OpenServer Desktop or SCO OpenServer Host System to the SCO OpenServer
> Enterprise System must also purchase an Inter-Edition Trade-In license
> a s well as an Upgrade or Trade-In license, to bring the system up to
> the current SCO OpenServer Release 5.0.7.
>
> Great. But if you add up the costs, that's the same as buying new!
>
> So what part numbers do I really need for upgrades from
> pre 5.0.6 and 3.2v4.2 ? Host to Host, Host to Enterprise, etc.
>
> BTW, I've asked distributors and haven't had a sensible answer yet.

Tony,

Order the media kit (Model number CA200-UX04-5.0.7) and then for a pre
5.0.6 Host to Host you need:

LX241-UX10-5.0.7

This will take you to 507 Host. Then to go from 507 Host to 507
Enterprise
you need:

LX261-X241-5.0.7

These do not add up to any where near the cost of the full product.
The difference is above $200.

Does this help?

John

to...@aplawrence.com

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Aug 11, 2003, 11:42:04 AM8/11/03
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>Tony,

>LX241-UX10-5.0.7

>LX261-X241-5.0.7

>Does this help?

Yes, thanks. But can you explain what that other nonsense means and when
it would apply?

John Boland

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Aug 12, 2003, 3:21:04 AM8/12/03
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to...@aplawrence.com wrote in message news:<bh8dgc$jnu$1...@pcls4.std.com>...

> John Boland <jbo...@sco.com> wrote:
> >to...@aplawrence.com wrote in message news:<bgefgs$viq$3...@pcls4.std.com>...
>
> [snip]

>
> Yes, thanks. But can you explain what that other nonsense means and when
> it would apply?

Tony,

I checked the thread and cannot find any other questions that need a response.
If you can explain the other issues you have I will be happy to answer them.

Thanks,

John

to...@aplawrence.com

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Aug 12, 2003, 9:00:54 AM8/12/03
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John Boland <jbo...@sco.com> wrote:
>to...@aplawrence.com wrote in message news:<bh8dgc$jnu$1...@pcls4.std.com>...
>> John Boland <jbo...@sco.com> wrote:
>> >to...@aplawrence.com wrote in message news:<bgefgs$viq$3...@pcls4.std.com>...
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> Yes, thanks. But can you explain what that other nonsense means and when
>> it would apply?

>Tony,

>I checked the thread and cannot find any other questions that need a response.
>If you can explain the other issues you have I will be happy to answer them.


What does:

Inter-Edition Trade-In: Customers wishing to migrate from an SCO
OpenServer Desktop or SCO OpenServer Host System to the SCO OpenServer
Enterprise System must also purchase an Inter-Edition Trade-In license as
well as an Upgrade or Trade-In license, to bring the system up to the
current SCO OpenServer Release 5.0.7.

apply to?

John Boland

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Aug 13, 2003, 8:14:38 AM8/13/03
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to...@aplawrence.com wrote in message news:<bhaoe6$6i4$1...@pcls4.std.com>...

> What does:
>
> Inter-Edition Trade-In: Customers wishing to migrate from an SCO
> OpenServer Desktop or SCO OpenServer Host System to the SCO OpenServer
> Enterprise System must also purchase an Inter-Edition Trade-In license as
> well as an Upgrade or Trade-In license, to bring the system up to the
> current SCO OpenServer Release 5.0.7.
>
> apply to?

Tony,

What this text is trying to say is, if you want to go from:

OpenServer Desktop 5.0.0/2/4/5/6 to OpenServer Enterprise 5.0.7

or from:

OpenServer Host 5.0.0/2/4/5/6 to OpenServer Enterprise 5.0.7

then you need to purchase:

1) An Upgrade or Trade-In license to get you to 5.0.7 Desktop/Host
2) An Inter-Edition license to get you to 507 Enterprise

In other words, the Inter-Edition license upgrade is for 5.0.7 customers
only.

Does this help?

John

Lucky Leavell [RIS]

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Aug 15, 2003, 11:46:38 AM8/15/03
to John Boland

John;
While I agree with your explanation and tell my customers the bad news,
it does not help that the printed description on the LX261-X241-5.0.7
Interedition Trade-In License has the following description:

SCO OpenServer 5.0.7
Enterprise System From
SCO OpenServer 5.0.0/
5.0.5 Host System

which would SEEM to obviate the need for the LX241-UX10W-5.0.7 Host
Trade-In License.

Thank you,
Lucky

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John Boland

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Aug 16, 2003, 3:41:59 PM8/16/03
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"Lucky Leavell [RIS]" <r...@iglou.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.GSO.4.56.0308151131300.18301@shell1>...

> John;
> While I agree with your explanation and tell my customers the bad news,
> it does not help that the printed description on the LX261-X241-5.0.7
> Interedition Trade-In License has the following description:
>
> SCO OpenServer 5.0.7
> Enterprise System From
> SCO OpenServer 5.0.0/
> 5.0.5 Host System
>
> which would SEEM to obviate the need for the LX241-UX10W-5.0.7 Host
> Trade-In License.

Lucky,

Thanks for pointing this out. This is a mistake in the License Text. I
am not working to get our Manufacturing group to change the text on
any new licenses we issue.

Sorry for the confusion.

John

John Boland

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Aug 21, 2003, 4:05:46 AM8/21/03
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jbo...@sco.com (John Boland) wrote in message news:<d4ead94.03081...@posting.google.com>...

> Lucky,
>
> Thanks for pointing this out. This is a mistake in the License Text. I
> am not working to get our Manufacturing group to change the text on
> any new licenses we issue.

Oops. I meant to say:

I am working to get our Manufacturing group ....

Sorry,

John

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