C-shell :: redirecting stderr to /dev/null

[Generic Usenet Account]

What is the easiest way to redirect the standard error to a null file
in C-shell? I am looking for something akin to what we do in ksh:

command 2> /dev/null

Thanks in advance,
Bhat

[Dragan Cvetkovic]

"Generic Usenet Account" <use...@sta.samsung.com> writes:

> What is the easiest way to redirect the standard error to a null file
> in C-shell? I am looking for something akin to what we do in ksh:
>
> command 2> /dev/null
>

Can't be done. That's one of C shell limitations. Check "Csh Programming
Considered Harmful" for more of it at

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/

Bye, Dragan

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[Keith Thompson]

"Generic Usenet Account" <use...@sta.samsung.com> writes:

> What is the easiest way to redirect the standard error to a null file
> in C-shell? I am looking for something akin to what we do in ksh:
>
> command 2> /dev/null

You can't do it directly, but there are workarounds.

If stdout happens to be /dev/tty, you can use:

( command > /dev/tty ) >& /dev/null

Or you can do this:

sh -c 'command 2> /dev/null'

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[Generic Usenet Account]

Dragan Cvetkovic wrote:

> Can't be done. That's one of C shell limitations. Check "Csh
Programming
> Considered Harmful" for more of it at
>
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/
>
>
> Bye, Dragan
>
>

There is one thing about C-shell that I really like and that is the
Variable Modifier feature. I mean:

:h >>-->> Remove a trailing pathname component, leaving the head
[similar to dirname]

:t >>-->> Remove all leading pathname components, leaving the tail
[similar to basename]

And my personal favorites...

:r >>-->> Remove a trailing extension, leaving the root
:e >>-->> Remove all but the extension

Is there a good equivalent for :r or :e in non C-shell shells?

Thanks,
Bhat

[Måns Rullgård]

"Generic Usenet Account" <use...@sta.samsung.com> writes:

> Dragan Cvetkovic wrote:
>
>> Can't be done. That's one of C shell limitations. Check "Csh Programming
>> Considered Harmful" for more of it at
>>
>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/
>>
>>
>> Bye, Dragan
>>
>>
>
> There is one thing about C-shell that I really like and that is the
> Variable Modifier feature. I mean:

Bash can do those things in a more generic way.

> :h >>-->> Remove a trailing pathname component, leaving the head
> [similar to dirname]

${var%/*}

> :t >>-->> Remove all leading pathname components, leaving the tail
> [similar to basename]

${var##*/}

> And my personal favorites...
>
> :r >>-->> Remove a trailing extension, leaving the root

${var%.*}

> :e >>-->> Remove all but the extension

${var##*.}

> Is there a good equivalent for :r or :e in non C-shell shells?

See above.

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[Icarus Sparry]

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 07:56:32 -0700, Generic Usenet Account wrote:

> Dragan Cvetkovic wrote:
> There is one thing about C-shell that I really like and that is the
> Variable Modifier feature. I mean:
>
> :h >>-->> Remove a trailing pathname component, leaving the head
> [similar to dirname]
>
> :t >>-->> Remove all leading pathname components, leaving the tail
> [similar to basename]
>
> And my personal favorites...
>
> :r >>-->> Remove a trailing extension, leaving the root
> :e >>-->> Remove all but the extension
>
>
> Is there a good equivalent for :r or :e in non C-shell shells?

:r ${var%.*}
:e ${var##*.}

are reasonable approximations.

[Paul D. Smith]

%% Måns Rullgård <m...@inprovide.com> writes:

mr> Bash can do those things in a more generic way.

The %, %%, #, and ## modifiers are not bash-specific: they're defined in
the POSIX spec for sh.

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[Måns Rullgård]

"Paul D. Smith" <psm...@nortel.com> writes:

> %% Måns Rullgård <m...@inprovide.com> writes:
>
> mr> Bash can do those things in a more generic way.
>
> The %, %%, #, and ## modifiers are not bash-specific: they're defined in
> the POSIX spec for sh.

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't sure it was POSIX, and wanted
to avoid being corrected in the other direction.

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