Recommendations for vt100 terminal emulation software for Win9x/NT
Matt Reusch
accessing our AIX/UNIX host. I have been using WRQ's Reflection for
UNIX/DEC v7.0, which works great, but is really expensive ($230) and feature
intensive (FTP client, scripting language, etc.) for what most users needs
are. What other software packages are people using? Please provide
estimated cost, URL, etc. if possible. Based on our setup, we are typically
not able to get volume purchasing agreements, so I am stuck buying single
user licenses each time. I would welcome any freeware/shareware options,
and I am also open to trying other vt emulation types.
TIA, Matt
Timothy J. Lee
| I would welcome any freeware/shareware options,
|and I am also open to trying other vt emulation types.
Would (freeware) TeraTerm be of use?
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Mark Rafn
>I am re-evaluating our vt100 terminal emulation software for Win9x/NT client
>accessing our AIX/UNIX host. I have been using WRQ's Reflection for
>UNIX/DEC v7.0, which works great, but is really expensive ($230) and feature
>intensive (FTP client, scripting language, etc.) for what most users needs
>are. What other software packages are people using?
That _is_ somewhat pricey, especially if you're just using the terminal
emulation/telnet aspect of it. If you're using the X server, then it's
going to be harder to replace.
I've used QVT/Term in the past with great success. See
http://www.frontiernet.net/~qpcsoft/ -- it's $40 shareware for the
full-featured version (FTP, mail client, etc), and $30 shareware for the
terminal-only version.
Recently (last 2 years), I've been using SecureCRT from http://www.vandyke.com
This is the SSH-enabled version of their CRT terminal emulation program,
and is near-perfect. I highly recommend it both for terminal emulation and
for security purposes (you really should be using SSH encryption for
sysadmin work, just to stop the pesky packet-sniffing goon in customer
service). 30-day trial, $35 for CRT, $99 for SecureCRT. Volume and
educational prices available as well.
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Raymond N Shwake
>I am re-evaluating our vt100 terminal emulation software for Win9x/NT client
>accessing our AIX/UNIX host. I have been using WRQ's Reflection for
>UNIX/DEC v7.0, which works great, but is really expensive ($230) and feature
>intensive (FTP client, scripting language, etc.) for what most users needs
>are. What other software packages are people using? Please provide
>estimated cost, URL, etc. if possible. Based on our setup, we are typically
>not able to get volume purchasing agreements, so I am stuck buying single
>user licenses each time. I would welcome any freeware/shareware options,
>and I am also open to trying other vt emulation types.
Kermit 95 - intended for Win 9x and NT - costs ~$54 per copy,
including the C-Kermit manual. Supports a range of emulations, and updates
are free.
pe...@nospam.se
: "Matt Reusch" <mre...@nospam.mdskc.com> writes:
: >I am re-evaluating our vt100 terminal emulation software for Win9x/NT client
: >accessing our AIX/UNIX host. I have been using WRQ's Reflection for
: >UNIX/DEC v7.0, which works great, but is really expensive ($230) and feature
: >intensive (FTP client, scripting language, etc.) for what most users needs
: >are. What other software packages are people using? Please provide
: >estimated cost, URL, etc. if possible. Based on our setup, we are typically
: >not able to get volume purchasing agreements, so I am stuck buying single
: >user licenses each time. I would welcome any freeware/shareware options,
: >and I am also open to trying other vt emulation types.
Why not use the telnet app that micro$oft ships ?
If no suitable termcap exists in aix, you can create one that fits your need.
peter h
: Kermit 95 - intended for Win 9x and NT - costs ~$54 per copy,
: including the C-Kermit manual. Supports a range of emulations, and updates
: are free.
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Celeste Stokely
Hyperterm Private Edition 5.0 - free, from http://www.hilgraeve.com and like
it far better.
Works well on connections to Solaris and HP-UX, and vi doesn't get confused
on line positioning when I use it.
..Celeste Stokely, Information Technology Project Mgmt Consultant
Stokely Consulting, cel...@stokely.com
http://www.stokely.com - Home of Unix Serial Port & Sysadm Resources
22 Six Shooter Drive, Silver City NM 88061-9791
Main: 505.534.3140 - FAX: 505.534.3141
pe...@nospam.se
: I can rarely get M$ telnet to do a decent VT100 emulation. I use the "upgraded"
You don't NEED a decent vt100 emulation at all !
All un*x systems uses terminfo or termcap databases that describes
how different terminals works. (terminfo is sysV, termcap comes
from BSD. Some systems uses hybrids)
Which description you use is defined by the value of TERM set in the
users environment.
Well-written applications uses curses (or termcap) library calls
to use the terminal. Thus , almost any terminal may be used
with those applications.
Given these possibilities i assume that even micro$ofts telnet application
would be useful. Whats needed is two steps :
1- inventory of the terminal database shipped by the vendor
if none suitable found :
2- create one that corresponds to the used terminal.
I guess that someone already has created a terminfo/termcap entry for
this ?? If so, please contribute to us!
The fact that good and cheap software is available is a good thing(TM),
and advices "use this" are always welcome.
(if you find it difficult to understand curses, o'reilly has a good book
on the subject. Or you will probebly be able to find a consulant that
creates the entry for a fee)
Peter h
: Works well on connections to Solaris and HP-UX, and vi doesn't get confused
: on line positioning when I use it.
: ..Celeste Stokely, Information Technology Project Mgmt Consultant
: Stokely Consulting, cel...@stokely.com
: http://www.stokely.com - Home of Unix Serial Port & Sysadm Resources
: 22 Six Shooter Drive, Silver City NM 88061-9791
: Main: 505.534.3140 - FAX: 505.534.3141
: > : >I am re-evaluating our vt100 terminal emulation software for Win9x/NT client
: > : >accessing our AIX/UNIX host. I have been using WRQ's Reflection for
: > : >UNIX/DEC v7.0, which works great, but is really expensive ($230) and feature
: > : >intensive (FTP client, scripting language, etc.) for what most users needs
: > : >are. What other software packages are people using? Please provide
: > : >estimated cost, URL, etc. if possible. Based on our setup, we are typically
: > : >not able to get volume purchasing agreements, so I am stuck buying single
: > : >user licenses each time. I would welcome any freeware/shareware options,
: > : >and I am also open to trying other vt emulation types.
: >
: > Why not use the telnet app that micro$oft ships ?
: >
: > If no suitable termcap exists in aix, you can create one that fits your need.
: >
: > peter h
: >
: > : Kermit 95 - intended for Win 9x and NT - costs ~$54 per copy,
: > : including the C-Kermit manual. Supports a range of emulations, and updates
: > : are free.
: >
Raymond N Shwake
>Raymond N Shwake <rsh...@rsxtech.atww.net> wrote:
>: "Matt Reusch" <mre...@nospam.mdskc.com> writes:
>: >I am re-evaluating our vt100 terminal emulation software for Win9x/NT client
>: >accessing our AIX/UNIX host. I have been using WRQ's Reflection for
>: >UNIX/DEC v7.0, which works great, but is really expensive ($230) and feature
>: >intensive (FTP client, scripting language, etc.) for what most users needs
>: >are. What other software packages are people using? Please provide
>: >estimated cost, URL, etc. if possible. Based on our setup, we are typically
>: >not able to get volume purchasing agreements, so I am stuck buying single
>: >user licenses each time. I would welcome any freeware/shareware options,
>: >and I am also open to trying other vt emulation types.
>Why not use the telnet app that micro$oft ships ?
>If no suitable termcap exists in aix, you can create one that fits your need.
>peter h
Maybe because Microsoft's telnets are widely recognized as among
the worst around. The one bundled with Workgroups was simply appalling. The
ones found in Win9x and NT are simply poor.
Tom Jobbins
Matt Reusch <mre...@nospam.mdskc.com> wrote in message
news:wCBu3.1242$783....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> I am re-evaluating our vt100 terminal emulation software for Win9x/NT
client
> accessing our AIX/UNIX host. I have been using WRQ's Reflection for
> UNIX/DEC v7.0, which works great, but is really expensive ($230) and
feature
> intensive (FTP client, scripting language, etc.) for what most users needs
> are. What other software packages are people using? Please provide
> estimated cost, URL, etc. if possible. Based on our setup, we are
typically
> not able to get volume purchasing agreements, so I am stuck buying single
> user licenses each time. I would welcome any freeware/shareware options,
> and I am also open to trying other vt emulation types.
I would highly recommend SecureCRT (or plain CRT if you dont have, and dont
want SSH encrypted transfers)
I have looked at several packages - concentrating mostly on QVTTerm and
SecureCRT. QVT is ok, but I've found several problems with displaying
scerens, e.g. garbling texts, lines not wrapping properly. This might have
been my misconfiguration, however using similar settings in SecureCRT gave
perfect results first time
It's quick and easy to use - you can set up a list of sites to visit,
including usernames and passwords if you use SSH login, and store with those
individual terminal settings. Then you can select from one at startup, it's
all very quick and easy. There are more advanced options buried away, but
most of the time you dondt need to touch them
At $35 for CRT and $100 for SecureCRT, these are great value in my opinion
HTH,
Tom
Martin Richard
rootdog
Cheap. Effective
Matt Reusch <mre...@nospam.mdskc.com> wrote in message
news:wCBu3.1242$783....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> I am re-evaluating our vt100 terminal emulation software for Win9x/NT
client
> accessing our AIX/UNIX host. I have been using WRQ's Reflection for
> UNIX/DEC v7.0, which works great, but is really expensive ($230) and
feature
> intensive (FTP client, scripting language, etc.) for what most users needs
> are. What other software packages are people using? Please provide
> estimated cost, URL, etc. if possible. Based on our setup, we are
typically
> not able to get volume purchasing agreements, so I am stuck buying single
> user licenses each time. I would welcome any freeware/shareware options,
> and I am also open to trying other vt emulation types.
>
> TIA, Matt
>
>
Rev. Don Kool
pe...@nospam.se wrote:
>
> Celeste Stokely <cel...@stokely.com> wrote:
> : I can rarely get M$ telnet to do a decent VT100 emulation. I use the "upgraded"
> : Hyperterm Private Edition 5.0 - free, from http://www.hilgraeve.com and like
> : it far better.
>
> You don't NEED a decent vt100 emulation at all !
[...discussion of "termcap" and "terminfo" snipped...]
Why take the time and trouble to gen up a termcap/terminfo entry
for Microsoft TELNET when a small, free and better application will
emulate a VT100 and obviate the need for a propriatary
termcap/terminfo entry? Besides, if you use VT100 emulation you can
TELNET anywhere and have it behave appropriately. This helps when
you don't have privleges that allow you to change the termcap or
terminfo databases on the remote machine.
I have no doubt that the termcap/terminfo entries for Microsoft
TELNET are most likely floating around on the Internet for the
taking but getting them installed everywhere and every time you want
to TELNET somewhere could be a real headache.
Don
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Bernard Chandler
rootdog wrote:
> http://www.netterm.com/
>
> Cheap. Effective
>
> Matt Reusch <mre...@nospam.mdskc.com> wrote in message
> news:wCBu3.1242$783....@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > I am re-evaluating our vt100 terminal emulation software for Win9x/NT
> client
> > accessing our AIX/UNIX host. I have been using WRQ's Reflection for
> > UNIX/DEC v7.0, which works great, but is really expensive ($230) and
> feature
> > intensive (FTP client, scripting language, etc.) for what most users needs
> > are. What other software packages are people using? Please provide
> > estimated cost, URL, etc. if possible. Based on our setup, we are
> typically
> > not able to get volume purchasing agreements, so I am stuck buying single
> > user licenses each time. I would welcome any freeware/shareware options,
> > and I am also open to trying other vt emulation types.
> >
> > TIA, Matt
> >
> >
I have tried expensive and cheep. It is all the same to me. However, if the
Win9x/NT user can not spell AIX then you might look at:
www.facetcorp.com
The emulation works well. You also have some control that challenges X. And it
makes the Unix system look like a big Win9x/NT. You do not have to retrain or
explain to the user.