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Re: JOB OPPORTUNITY: UNIX Manager- MORRISTOWN, NJ

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Dave Hinz

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Apr 19, 2006, 5:24:29 PM4/19/06
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On 19 Apr 2006 14:22:39 -0700, spa...@yahoo.com <spa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> UNIX Manager

Your spam is unwelcome here, and only serves to tell your target
audience who to avoid.

fernand...@yahoo.com

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Apr 19, 2006, 5:40:53 PM4/19/06
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Thank you for the reply. I thought job opprotunities were welcom. I
will delete

fernand...@yahoo.com

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Apr 19, 2006, 5:42:49 PM4/19/06
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how do i delete the positing?

Dave Hinz

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Apr 19, 2006, 5:46:33 PM4/19/06
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On 19 Apr 2006 14:40:53 -0700, fernand...@yahoo.com <fernand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thank you for the reply. I thought job opprotunities were welcom. I
> will delete

How in the world did you get that idea? A simple search of the archives
of this group would have shown you that spammer headhunters aren't
welcome here. And you can't "delete" from usenet.

Dave Hinz

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Apr 19, 2006, 5:48:14 PM4/19/06
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On 19 Apr 2006 14:42:49 -0700, fernand...@yahoo.com <fernand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> how do i delete the positing?

You can't. Just go over to the jobs groups. You can recognize them by
the word "jobs" in the name, you see.

You might want to lurk wherever it is you're thinking of posting, so you
don't step on your dick again.

Robert Melson

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Apr 20, 2006, 12:00:49 AM4/20/06
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In article <4anpguF...@individual.net>,

Tut, Dave. At least he's apologized - sorta - instead of arguing with you.
Still, with 300+ groups with the word jobs somewhere in the title ....

Semi-retired Ol' Bob (yeah, I'm _still_ an SOB!)

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Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
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"We can forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real
tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." ---Plato
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Doug Freyburger

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Apr 20, 2006, 1:02:05 PM4/20/06
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fernand...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> how do i delete the positing?

That depends on your newsreader. Most have the
option of cancelling your own posts, but note that
not all NSPs honor cancellation requests no matter
who they are from.

You posted through Google Groups. With them
you can open your own post, "Show options" and
their is a "Remove" click.

The removal will not propagate any faster than the
posting itself and you can't do anything about the
responses.

Dave's right and wrong on this IMO.

Right - On UeNet it's standard to read a few weeks before
posting and to skim the archives. You should have
learned that recruiting posts are off topic and roundly
condemened.

Wrong - Trying to cancel your own posts at least shows
you're sincere in addition to clueless. The way I see it
sincere beats clueless because clueless is curable
through training as an adult while sincere takes training
during childhood.

Dave Hinz

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Apr 20, 2006, 1:54:05 PM4/20/06
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On 20 Apr 2006 10:02:05 -0700, Doug Freyburger <dfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> fernand...@yahoo.com wrote:
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>> how do i delete the positing?

> Dave's right and wrong on this IMO.

Been known to happen.

> Right - On UeNet it's standard to read a few weeks before
> posting and to skim the archives. You should have
> learned that recruiting posts are off topic and roundly
> condemened.

> Wrong - Trying to cancel your own posts at least shows
> you're sincere in addition to clueless.

Good point.

fernand...@yahoo.com

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Apr 20, 2006, 5:35:51 PM4/20/06
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I apologize for anyone i may have offended with this posting. I will
remove and take myself out of the group. I thankyou for your help as
well as criticism and reporting to Google. Very mature

fernand...@yahoo.com

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Apr 20, 2006, 5:35:59 PM4/20/06
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fernand...@yahoo.com

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Apr 20, 2006, 5:37:18 PM4/20/06
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Like i said i will delete it. Try to warn a person next time you are
attacking me from th get go. I made a mistake and i apologize

Moe Trin

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Apr 21, 2006, 8:28:48 PM4/21/06
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On 20 Apr 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.unix.admin, in article
<1145569038.5...@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
fernand...@yahoo.com wrote:

>Like i said i will delete it.

May not be possible. There is a FAQ posted monthly (on the 15th) to the
newsgroups news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins, news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,
news.admin.net-abuse.sightings, news.admin.net-abuse.misc, and news.answers
in four parts with the title "Cancel Messages: Frequently Asked Questions"
(last modified September 1999) that speaks to this. Bottom line - a lot of
news server ignore _all_ cancels.

>Try to warn a person next time you are attacking me from th get go.

Let's start with RFC1855, and while you're at it, find RFC2635 (not
really applicable here, but worth reading) and RFC3098. You're posting
from Google, so you should be able to use the search engine and find copies
all over the net.

1855 Netiquette Guidelines. S. Hambridge. October 1995. (Format:
TXT=46185 bytes) (Also FYI0028) (Status: INFORMATIONAL)

2635 DON'T SPEW A Set of Guidelines for Mass Unsolicited Mailings and
Postings (spam*). S. Hambridge, A. Lunde. June 1999. (Format:
TXT=44669 bytes) (Also FYI0035) (Status: INFORMATIONAL)

3098 How to Advertise Responsibly Using E-Mail and Newsgroups or - how
NOT to $$$$$ MAKE ENEMIES FAST! $$$$$. T. Gavin, D. Eastlake 3rd, S.
Hambridge. April 2001. (Format: TXT=64687 bytes) (Also FYI0038)
(Status: INFORMATIONAL)

Notice - they aren't "STANDARD"s, but are in the line of "free clues".
RFC1855 specifically recommends reading a group for a _month_ before
posting to it. It's quite obvious you didn't do that (and truthfully, not
many do). RFC1855 and RFC2635 speak of 'charters' which deal with the
purpose of the individual newsgroup - did you try to look for the charter
for this group before posting? Here's what the monthly "List of Big Eight
Newsgroups" says about this group:

comp.unix.admin Administering a Unix-based system.

Nothing about "offering jobs". Hmmm... there are few groups in the big eight
where job offers are acceptable. You might look at the news server operated by
your ISP, and see what groups it carries. It varies quite a lot. I have access
to three news servers - one has only 233 groups with the word 'jobs' in the
title - another has 610, and the third has 1157. Posting from your company
account via a real news server rather than google makes you look less like a
newbie trying to find their first gig.

>I made a mistake and i apologize

That's fine. Hopefully you learned from it. Another clue - your post is for
a job in Morristown, NJ in the USA. This newsgroup goes world wide. Are you
offering relocation - or at least travel expenses? Are you going to provide
the appropriate visa for foreign nationals? Or might this more applicable to
a group like "nj.jobs" "nyc.jobs.*", or even "ny.jobs"?

Old guy

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