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Mitch

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Mar 22, 2002, 12:08:34 AM3/22/02
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I've worked in a UNIX o/s call queue for about 4 yrs supporting DGUX
for Data General. They got bought out by EMC and now most of us unix
guys are out the door. I've done some remote admin work for customers
who bought that service but nothing extensive (no script writing,
etc). I have an offer of an interview for sys admin but am not sure
if I've got all the skills needed. Maybe I could handle it, just not
sure. Any ideas for super quick cram courses to get in the door?
Thanks....

David W. Stadden

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Mar 22, 2002, 2:05:53 PM3/22/02
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Sorry to hear about the layoff. I supported Data General Aviions back
in 1990. It was the only place I've seen them since. I wasn't aware that
EMC bought them. First Compaq buys DEC and renames the OS
then something like this. What a shame.
I would suggest picking up Sun and/or HP. I've had heavy experience with
SGI too but a much smaller market share. Good luck!

Dave

Michael Heiming

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Mar 22, 2002, 4:00:39 PM3/22/02
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** Since micro$oft is stupid it doesn't mean
** that you should be stupid too - do NOT top-post

David W. Stadden (<3C9B8091...@west.raytheon.com>):

>
> Sorry to hear about the layoff. I supported Data General Aviions
> back in 1990. It was the only place I've seen them since. I wasn't
> aware that EMC bought them. First Compaq buys DEC and renames the
> OS then something like this. What a shame.

Compaq didn't name it Tru64, DEC did it before Compaq bought them,
even if the name really sounds like Compaq...

> I would suggest picking up Sun and/or HP. I've had heavy
> experience with SGI too but a much smaller market share. Good
> luck!
>
> Dave
>
> Mitch wrote:
>
>> I've worked in a UNIX o/s call queue for about 4 yrs supporting
>> DGUX
>> for Data General. They got bought out by EMC and now most of us
>> unix
>> guys are out the door. I've done some remote admin work for
>> customers who bought that service but nothing extensive (no
>> script writing,
>> etc). I have an offer of an interview for sys admin but am not
>> sure
>> if I've got all the skills needed. Maybe I could handle it, just
>> not
>> sure. Any ideas for super quick cram courses to get in the door?
>> Thanks....

Sounds like you would have a feet in the door.

Good luck

Michael Heiming
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Michael Heiming

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Mar 23, 2002, 4:43:49 AM3/23/02
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Morpheus (<GtF2p...@world.std.com>):

> Today, Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:00:39 +0100, my sensors detected a
> usenet fart
> by Michael Heiming <michael...@heiming.de> and poopies
> gushed
> out of their diaper while they wrote:
[..]

>>Compaq didn't name it Tru64, DEC did it before Compaq bought them,
>>even if the name really sounds like Compaq...
>>
>

> Bullshit. Last time I worked on it, they called it Digital Unix.
> Not tru. Compaq named it Tru.

Thx for the info, someone on comp.unix.tru64 told this to me,
wether I originally thought it would have been Compaq...Can you
provide an URL, which backups this statement? It looks as if you
can't trust anyone today....;-)

Lincoln

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Mar 23, 2002, 11:00:42 PM3/23/02
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In article <17f1dcbf.02032...@posting.google.com>, "Mitch"
<mit...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Since everyone is arguing about dork stuff and not helping you, I
recommend the Unix System Administrator's Bible which is generic in OS
(mine came with FreeBSD on cd but the book is not geared specifically
toward it) and has a lot of excellent "big-picture" information not only
about running a server or group of servers but also viewing the lan or
wan as a whole and applying troubleshooting practices, what to document,
what to monitor, what to keep in mind with dealing with the rest of your
company, "back-out plans" for updates, what services to separate onto
different hardware, you-name-it. I am also using an old Linux Unleashed
(it came with RedHat 5.something) which has some specific areas that
focus on Admin issues.

Knowing where to get help, knowing how to deal with people, and having a
patient can-do attitude (patient as in taking baby steps when necessary) are
the important stuff, in your old job you demonstrated the ability to
learn and grasp technical system concepts.

On the technical side, have you ever run Unix at home in any form? I am
building an OpenBSD system in my spare time when I feel like tweaking,
and it is a true learning process! It is almost a "roll your own" OS
because almost no services are configured or running on boot. This makes
it very lean and also makes you learn about every daemon/service as you
configure and enable it. It is a learning curve though, having used DOS
for 15 years, and Windows and Linux for a few years. Slackware Linux is
a very stripped-down OS, but not as difficult (for me)to learn and work
with as OpenBSD. One consideration is that the documentation (need to do
something? www.linuxdoc.org has the latest HOWTO versions) for Linux is
much more widespread and well written, although FreeBSD does have good
docs. The Linux docs are so good that I printed out the
DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO and the Installation-HOWTO and had the OS
installed and was learning shell commands within a week or two (probably
six hours or so of reading/working).

Have faith, I was laid off from a Commercial sales/support/management
position and am now a new Sysadmin, and I feel totally confident in my
ability to stay on top of things, because I know where to get docs or
advice. BTW, it took me six months to get "the right job" so be patient.

Let me know how things go,

Lincoln Rutledge
IT Mgr.
FCDL

dave...@spamcop.net

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Mar 24, 2002, 12:05:47 AM3/24/02
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Someone who looks an awful lot like Lincoln <rutledge_a...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Since everyone is arguing about dork stuff and not helping you,

I must be seeing more posts than you are.

Deacon

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Mar 24, 2002, 8:24:51 AM3/24/02
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 04:00:42 GMT, "Lincoln"
<rutledge_a...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <17f1dcbf.02032...@posting.google.com>, "Mitch"
><mit...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> I've worked in a UNIX o/s call queue for about 4 yrs supporting DGUX for
>> Data General. They got bought out by EMC and now most of us unix guys
>> are out the door. I've done some remote admin work for customers who
>> bought that service but nothing extensive (no script writing, etc). I
>> have an offer of an interview for sys admin but am not sure if I've got
>> all the skills needed. Maybe I could handle it, just not sure. Any
>> ideas for super quick cram courses to get in the door? Thanks....
>
>Since everyone is arguing about dork stuff and not helping you, I
>recommend the Unix System Administrator's Bible which is generic in OS
>(mine came with FreeBSD on cd but the book is not geared specifically

<snippage>

That is a good book, I have read it and refer it to other SA's
starting out...

Lincoln

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Mar 24, 2002, 10:02:52 PM3/24/02
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In article <nqkr9uci88j0oqkoa...@4ax.com>, "Deacon"
<deaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I think it's great, I was trying to remember the writers, I believe that
rather than a giant collaboration (compost heap style) it is only written
by two writers, so it is big on cohesiveness and low on redundancy. I
think the newest edition comes with Slackware and has some more stuff on
the newer features of Samba, etc...

Lincoln

Rev. Don Kool

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Mar 28, 2002, 12:01:28 AM3/28/02
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Mitch wrote:

SUN is selling SunBlade 100's on the cheap. Pick one up and learn
SLOWARIS. While it is the most backward UNIX system extant, it does
have the most market penetration (i.e., it is the one you are most
likely to administer). Depending on your skill and your location,
hopefully you can do better and learn to admin IRIX or Tru64 UNIX.

Hope this helps,
Don


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* Rev. Don McDonald * Man's gotta earn a living.
* Baltimore, MD * Dying ain't much of a living, boy.
*********************** "Outlaw Josey Wales"

Mitch

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Apr 1, 2002, 4:46:11 PM4/1/02
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"Rev. Don Kool" <old...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<3CA2A3A5...@comcast.net>...

> Mitch wrote:
>
> > I've worked in a UNIX o/s call queue for about 4 yrs supporting DGUX
> > for Data General. They got bought out by EMC and now most of us unix
> > guys are out the door. I've done some remote admin work for customers
> > who bought that service but nothing extensive (no script writing,
> > etc). I have an offer of an interview for sys admin but am not sure
> > if I've got all the skills needed. Maybe I could handle it, just not
> > sure. Any ideas for super quick cram courses to get in the door?
> > Thanks....
>
>
>
> SUN is selling SunBlade 100's on the cheap. Pick one up and learn
> SLOWARIS. While it is the most backward UNIX system extant, it does
> have the most market penetration (i.e., it is the one you are most
> likely to administer). Depending on your skill and your location,
> hopefully you can do better and learn to admin IRIX or Tru64 UNIX.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Don


Thanks to all for your help....I really appreciate it.
Mitch

Michael Maxwell

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Apr 1, 2002, 5:13:55 PM4/1/02
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mit...@ix.netcom.com (Mitch) writes:
> Thanks to all for your help....I really appreciate it.
> Mitch

Just FYI, Don Kool is a twit. He is not here to help anyone - he is
just another troll. A "net.kook", if you prefer. If he provides any
helpful information, it is purely by coincidence.

Just letting you know - take what he says with a grain of salt.


--
Michael Maxwell
I am NOT a "consumer", I am NOT a "statistic", I am NOT "intimidated".

Rev. Don Kool

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Apr 2, 2002, 7:17:05 PM4/2/02
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Mitch wrote:

> "Rev. Don Kool" <old...@comcast.net> wrote...
>>Mitch wrote:


No problem.

Rev. Don Kool

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Apr 2, 2002, 7:17:24 PM4/2/02
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Michael Maxwell wrote:

> mit...@ix.netcom.com (Mitch) writes:
>
>>Thanks to all for your help....I really appreciate it.
>>Mitch
>>
>
> Just FYI, Don Kool is a twit. He is not here to help anyone - he is
> just another troll. A "net.kook", if you prefer. If he provides any
> helpful information, it is purely by coincidence.
>
> Just letting you know - take what he says with a grain of salt.


Jealousy doesn't suit you, Mike.

Yours in Christ,

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