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unruh
Jul 9, 2012, 1:30:15 AM7/9/12
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Why does latex not havee the equivalent of the \magnification command in
tex? From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
(and no bigger) or use the slides class but that hardly makes up the
flexibility of the magnification in tex.
On a slightly tangential topic, why are the number so horrible in the
slides class? (the superscripts especially for the numbers become a too
large san serif set of ugly numbers in the slides class)
tex? From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
(and no bigger) or use the slides class but that hardly makes up the
flexibility of the magnification in tex.
On a slightly tangential topic, why are the number so horrible in the
slides class? (the superscripts especially for the numbers become a too
large san serif set of ugly numbers in the slides class)
terryc
Jul 9, 2012, 2:52:30 AM7/9/12
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On 09/07/12 15:30, unruh wrote:
> Why does latex not havee the equivalent of the \magnification command in
> tex?
Like \Huge \huge \lagre ........\tiny?
> Why does latex not havee the equivalent of the \magnification command in
> tex?
or \scale or \rescale or whatever else is avaialble.
Paweł Wlaź
Jul 9, 2012, 3:53:03 AM7/9/12
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On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, unruh wrote:
> Why does latex not havee the equivalent of the \magnification command in
> tex? From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
> (and no bigger) or use the slides class but that hardly makes up the
> flexibility of the magnification in tex.
\mag=1500
at the begining of your latex file and pdflatex it. It works, it
scales, the pdf file looks as you would expect.
You can even use \usepackage[width=17truecm,height=25truecm]{geometry}
and the "truecm" will be honoured.
Pawel
Nicola Talbot
Jul 9, 2012, 5:00:12 AM7/9/12
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On 09/07/12 06:30, unruh wrote:
> Why does latex not havee the equivalent of the \magnification command in
> tex? From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
> (and no bigger)
The extsizes package provides additional options, such as [17pt] and
> Why does latex not havee the equivalent of the \magnification command in
> tex? From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
> (and no bigger)
[20pt]. As long as you're using a scalable font, you can adapt one of
the sizexx.clo files. The a0poster class provides even larger fonts.
> or use the slides class but that hardly makes up the
> flexibility of the magnification in tex.
>
> On a slightly tangential topic, why are the number so horrible in the
> slides class? (the superscripts especially for the numbers become a too
> large san serif set of ugly numbers in the slides class)
such as beamer.
Regards
Nicola Talbot
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Markus Kohm
Jul 9, 2012, 6:22:09 AM7/9/12
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unruh (Montag, 9. Juli 2012 07:30):
> From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
> (and no bigger)
This is very old fashioned. See, e.g., KOMA-Script manual, scrguien.pdf
<http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/koma-script/doc/scrguien.pdf>,
section 3.5 (to use a KOMA-Script class) or section 9.5 (to use another
class), or memoir manual
<http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf>, section
1.2.
> From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
> (and no bigger)
<http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/koma-script/doc/scrguien.pdf>,
section 3.5 (to use a KOMA-Script class) or section 9.5 (to use another
class), or memoir manual
<http://mirror.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf>, section
1.2.
Robin Fairbairns
Jul 9, 2012, 8:18:42 AM7/9/12
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limited to those that lamport provided in his first "stable" latex,
deliberately.
as markus says, there are two excellent distributions that provide
alternatives to the latex standard classes. i would recommend using the
alternative classes in preference to packages that make extra sizes
available on the standard class of your choice.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
sorry about all this posting. i'll go back to sleep in a bit.
unruh
Jul 9, 2012, 5:11:47 PM7/9/12
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On 2012-07-09, Nicola Talbot <n.ta...@uea.ac.uk> wrote:
> On 09/07/12 06:30, unruh wrote:
>> Why does latex not havee the equivalent of the \magnification command in
>> tex? From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
>> (and no bigger)
>
> The extsizes package provides additional options, such as [17pt] and
> [20pt]. As long as you're using a scalable font, you can adapt one of
> the sizexx.clo files. The a0poster class provides even larger fonts.
>
>> or use the slides class but that hardly makes up the
>> flexibility of the magnification in tex.
>>
>> On a slightly tangential topic, why are the number so horrible in the
>> slides class? (the superscripts especially for the numbers become a too
>> large san serif set of ugly numbers in the slides class)
>
> The slides class is very old. I suggest you use a modern alternative,
> such as beamer.
I am using klatexformula and altering the source code to put in slides
> On 09/07/12 06:30, unruh wrote:
>> Why does latex not havee the equivalent of the \magnification command in
>> tex? From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
>> (and no bigger)
>
> The extsizes package provides additional options, such as [17pt] and
> [20pt]. As long as you're using a scalable font, you can adapt one of
> the sizexx.clo files. The a0poster class provides even larger fonts.
>
>> or use the slides class but that hardly makes up the
>> flexibility of the magnification in tex.
>>
>> On a slightly tangential topic, why are the number so horrible in the
>> slides class? (the superscripts especially for the numbers become a too
>> large san serif set of ugly numbers in the slides class)
>
> The slides class is very old. I suggest you use a modern alternative,
> such as beamer.
class so that the symbols are of reasonable size when inserted into
Impress. The \mag= works. Thanks. Much better than having to keep
recompiling if I want something else.
unruh
Jul 9, 2012, 5:13:06 PM7/9/12
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On 2012-07-09, Pawe? Wla? <pw...@mat.pol.lublin.pl> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, unruh wrote:
>
>> Why does latex not havee the equivalent of the \magnification command in
>> tex? From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
>> (and no bigger) or use the slides class but that hardly makes up the
>> flexibility of the magnification in tex.
>
> I think it has, but it is not "recomended". Write
>
> \mag=1500
>
> at the begining of your latex file and pdflatex it. It works, it
> scales, the pdf file looks as you would expect.
That works. Thanks. (This is for use in klatexformula).
>
>
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, unruh wrote:
>
>> Why does latex not havee the equivalent of the \magnification command in
>> tex? From what I read, you can use [10pt], [11pt] or [12pt] commands
>> (and no bigger) or use the slides class but that hardly makes up the
>> flexibility of the magnification in tex.
>
> I think it has, but it is not "recomended". Write
>
> \mag=1500
>
> at the begining of your latex file and pdflatex it. It works, it
> scales, the pdf file looks as you would expect.
Why is it not recommended?
Paweł Wlaź
Jul 10, 2012, 8:44:57 AM7/10/12
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On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, unruh wrote:
> On 2012-07-09, Pawel Wlaz <pw...@mat.pol.lublin.pl> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, unruh wrote:
>>
[ . . . ]
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, unruh wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think it has, but it is not "recomended". Write
>>
>> \mag=1500
[ . . . ]
>> I think it has, but it is not "recomended". Write
>>
>> \mag=1500
>
> That works. Thanks. (This is for use in klatexformula).
>
> Why is it not recommended?
>
it's handy sometimes.
Pawel
corporal
Jul 11, 2012, 1:09:21 AM7/11/12
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On Monday, 9 July 2012 15:30:15 UTC+10, unruh wrote:
>> Why does latex not have the equivalent of the \magnification command in
>> tex?
Some time later
> \mag=1500 -- recommended by Pawel
>> That works. Thanks. (This is for use in klatexformula).
>> Why is it not recommended?
>I am not sure. I never saw anyone recomend it, that is all. I use it,
>it's handy sometimes.
>Pawel
\magnification is a command in plain TeX that was disabled by the designer of LaTeX. The def of \magnification relies on \mag (or \m@g)
\mag is a primitive TeX command and as far as I know, can't be disabled. It is rare to use \mag in a LaTeX doc, but here is an example in a standard LaTeX distribution, in MFPIC.
% File: lapictures.tex
% A part of mfpic 1.06 2011/03/08
%
% Magnify to same scale as pictures.tex :
% (Use of \mag is against the law of LaTeX, but Bugs Bunny set a precedent.)
\mag=1200
\documentclass{article}
%%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
% adjust these to your liking:
\setlength{\paperheight}{11truein}
\setlength{\paperwidth}{8.5truein}
. . .
-- the file then goes on to give code to draw some mfpic diagrams.
Notice the use of TRUE for the lengths.
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From Lamports book on LaTeX2e (1994) page 233:
The \magnification command of Plain \TeX has no counterpart in \LaTeX. Magnification of the output can often be done by the program that prints the dvi file.
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I miss using \magnification but I think it was disabled in LaTeX to make margin formatting and other lengths work harmoniously.
regards from Corporal
>> Why does latex not have the equivalent of the \magnification command in
>> tex?
Some time later
> \mag=1500 -- recommended by Pawel
>> That works. Thanks. (This is for use in klatexformula).
>> Why is it not recommended?
>I am not sure. I never saw anyone recomend it, that is all. I use it,
>it's handy sometimes.
>Pawel
\mag is a primitive TeX command and as far as I know, can't be disabled. It is rare to use \mag in a LaTeX doc, but here is an example in a standard LaTeX distribution, in MFPIC.
% File: lapictures.tex
% A part of mfpic 1.06 2011/03/08
%
% Magnify to same scale as pictures.tex :
% (Use of \mag is against the law of LaTeX, but Bugs Bunny set a precedent.)
\mag=1200
\documentclass{article}
%%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
% adjust these to your liking:
\setlength{\paperheight}{11truein}
\setlength{\paperwidth}{8.5truein}
. . .
-- the file then goes on to give code to draw some mfpic diagrams.
Notice the use of TRUE for the lengths.
-----------
From Lamports book on LaTeX2e (1994) page 233:
The \magnification command of Plain \TeX has no counterpart in \LaTeX. Magnification of the output can often be done by the program that prints the dvi file.
-----------
I miss using \magnification but I think it was disabled in LaTeX to make margin formatting and other lengths work harmoniously.
regards from Corporal
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