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Jonathan LF King

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Oct 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/4/00
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Gentlefolk. When I use \documentclass[14pt]{extarticle}
together with \usepackage{sectsty} I get thisน message:

! Package sectsty Error: The sectsty package doesn't work with
(sectsty) this document class.

How can I use a 14pt document with `sectsty' (or if not, does
`sectsty' have a replacement which is compatible)?
Sincerely, -Jonathan


Footnoteน: I am using release `1997/12/01' of LaTeX.
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<squ...@math.ufl.edu>, <http://www.math.ufl.edu/~squash/>

Jonathan LF King

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Oct 26, 2000, 4:30:04 PM10/26/00
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Stefan Ulrich <ulr...@cis.uni-muenchen.de> writes:

> Jonathan LF King <squ...@math.ufl.edu> writes:
>
> > When I use \documentclass[14pt]{extarticle}
> > together with \usepackage{sectsty} I get thisน message:
>
> > ! Package sectsty Error: The sectsty package doesn't work with
> > (sectsty) this document class.
>
> > How can I use a 14pt document with `sectsty' (or if not, does
> > `sectsty' have a replacement which is compatible)?
> > Sincerely, -Jonathan
>

> Well, the problem seems to be that sectsty explicitly checks for
> the presence of one of the following classes: article, report,
> book, scrartcl, scrreprt and scrbook; it issues this warning if
> it doesn't find any of these. On the other hand, extarticle.cls
> doesn't load article.cls but is a class `on its own'. One could
> probably add a test for `extarticle' (and the other `ext...'
> classes) to sectsty; it ought to work without any problems for
> the redefinitions of the sectioning commands. Maybe you could
> email Rowland McDonnell about this (he used to read this group,
> but I haven't heard of him for quite some time now).
>
> Hmm ... actually I'm wondering why extarticle.cls doesn't simply
> load article.cls after providing its own options; this would seem
> a cleaner way to do it, especially since there have been changes
> in article.cls that haven't been fed back into extarticle.cls.
> But then, extsizes isn't in `supported' anyway ...
>
> --
> Stefan Ulrich

Thanks for your reply, Stefan. Two followups, if you please:
Q1: Is `sectsty' supported? Is it THE std pkg for customizing section
headers?; are there others?

Q2: Is there an easy, public-domain way to switch entirely to postscript fonts
and so that one can successfully use

\documentclass[18.982pt]{article}

for arbitrary values of "18.982"? Sincerely, -Jonathan

Robin Fairbairns

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Oct 27, 2000, 5:35:05 AM10/27/00
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Jonathan LF King <squ...@infinity.math.ufl.edu> wrote:
>Q1: Is `sectsty' supported? Is it THE std pkg for customizing section
>headers?; are there others?

it's supported, in the sense that it's in
macros/latex/contrib/supported, but it's not, in the sense that i've
not heard from rowland for ages.

>Q2: Is there an easy, public-domain way to switch entirely to postscript fonts
>and so that one can successfully use
>
> \documentclass[18.982pt]{article}
>
>for arbitrary values of "18.982"? Sincerely, -Jonathan

no. afaik, the changes one makes as the fonts change size are a
mixture of rules-of-thumb (which are presumably algorithmic, or knock-
able into algorithmic shape) and artistic evaluation.

which is reflected in the way extsizes is presented... ;-)
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Jochen Küpper

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Oct 27, 2000, 1:44:36 PM10/27/00
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>>>>> "RF" == Robin Fairbairns <r...@pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk> writes:

RF> Jonathan LF King <squ...@infinity.math.ufl.edu> wrote:

>> Q2: Is there an easy, public-domain way to switch entirely to
>> postscript fonts and so that one can successfully use
>>
>> \documentclass[18.982pt]{article}

RF> no. afaik, the changes one makes as the fonts change size are a
RF> mixture of rules-of-thumb (which are presumably algorithmic, or
RF> knock- able into algorithmic shape) and artistic evaluation.

RF> which is reflected in the way extsizes is presented... ;-)

I am wondering on the last sentence --- and don't get it into my
head;-)

As I am using extsizes for my thesis and have heard "bad" on it
before, I would like to know whether you see anything bad in extsizes
besides not using design sizes of fonts? (Well, I am going Type1 only
anyway, as my thesis is supposed to become a PDF-file:-)

I am using extsizes with a normalsize of 9pt, as I have to pay the
printing of the needed hardcopies (20--30) myself:-( Do you think that
is acceptable as a money/typography trade-off?

I have put parts of my preliminary thesis on the web:
http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~jochen/arbeit.pdf (704 kB)
A few selected/random pages:
http://www-public.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~jochen/seiten.ps.gz (168 kB)

Actually I have changed the layout to use typearea (DIV 14 or 15,
headinclude. Not reflected in the web-documents yet).

Moreover some people have suggested page-numbers on chapter-heading
pages. I have tried putting them into the center and outer footer, but
actually don't like them. Then, *I* don't have to use them to find
anything in that writing, others probably do?
On the other hand you get this number form the Toc, so you now the
chapter-title as well, and that is obvious on these pages. It`s at the
top, though -- where all the other page numbers are as well.

Thank you very much for your time,
Jochen
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Robin Fairbairns

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Oct 29, 2000, 9:01:43 AM10/29/00
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Jochen =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCpper?= <joc...@jochen-kuepper.de> wrote:
>RF> which is reflected in the way extsizes is presented... ;-)
>
>I am wondering on the last sentence --- and don't get it into my
>head;-)

merely a slight joke about the fact that the code of extsizes isn't
exactly "tidy".

>As I am using extsizes for my thesis and have heard "bad" on it
>before, I would like to know whether you see anything bad in extsizes
>besides not using design sizes of fonts? (Well, I am going Type1 only
>anyway, as my thesis is supposed to become a PDF-file:-)

please don't worry: it's ok really (in the sense that it works). i
have an elderly (and very distinguished) professor, whose eyesight is
very poor, using it to prepare his papers with no problems whatever.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Jonathan LF King

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Oct 30, 2000, 4:03:45 PM10/30/00
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r...@pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:

> Jonathan LF King <squ...@infinity.math.ufl.edu> wrote:
> >Q1: Is `sectsty' supported? Is it THE std pkg for customizing
> >section headers?; are there others?
>
> it's supported, in the sense that it's in
> macros/latex/contrib/supported, but it's not, in the sense that i've
> not heard from rowland for ages.
>
> >Q2: Is there an easy, public-domain way to switch entirely to
> >postscript fonts and so that one can successfully use
> >
> > \documentclass[18.982pt]{article}
> >
> >for arbitrary values of "18.982"? Sincerely, -Jonathan
>
> no. afaik, the changes one makes as the fonts change size are a
> mixture of rules-of-thumb (which are presumably algorithmic, or

> >knockable into algorithmic shape) and artistic evaluation.


>
> which is reflected in the way extsizes is presented... ;-)
> --
> Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Sigh ..., well, thank you Robin for the (alas disappointing)
information. Sincerely, -Jonathan

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