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cburroughs

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Jun 4, 2010, 9:52:26 PM6/4/10
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I haven't been able to find original documentation that it was
designed to only be this way, but I am having difficulty using AMS
Euler for running text. euler, eulervm and other packages only use it
for math.

TUGboat, Volume 29 (2008), No. 2. <http://tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/
tb29-2/tb92hagen-euler.pdf> implies this may be a future feature(?)
but also has en example of running text on the last page. I'm not
trying to write a book, just duplicating what TUGBoat for a paragraph
did would be more than enough.

Thank you.

Will Robertson

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Jun 5, 2010, 12:37:36 AM6/5/10
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On 2010-06-05 11:22:26 +0930, cburroughs <chris.b...@gmail.com> said:

> I haven't been able to find original documentation that it was
> designed to only be this way, but I am having difficulty using AMS
> Euler for running text. euler, eulervm and other packages only use it
> for math.

You could grab Khaled Hosny's OpenType version here:

http://github.com/khaledhosny/euler-otf

and then use XeTeX or LuaTeX to typeset a paragraph for you.

Not sure if this helps,
Will

Tariq

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Jun 5, 2010, 12:33:36 PM6/5/10
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On Jun 5, 12:37 am, Will Robertson <wsp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2010-06-05 11:22:26 +0930, cburroughs <chris.burrou...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > I haven't been able to find original documentation that it was
> > designed to only be this way, but I am having difficulty using AMS
> > Euler for running text.  euler, eulervm and other packages only use it
> > for math.
>
> You could grab Khaled Hosny's OpenType version here:
>
> http://github.com/khaledhosny/euler-otf
>
> and then use XeTeX or LuaTeX to typeset a paragraph for you.
>
> Not sure if this helps,
> Will

I would not recommend that otf font at all: it lacks such basic glyphs
as hyphen, en dash, emdash and whatnot. Makes no sense as to why, but
you cannot access these even when you use

Mapping=tex-text

when selecting the font. One could possibly try to use the Unicode
character code for these glyphs to see if that helps but then again, I
would not necessarily recommend such workaround because the source
code becomes less portable if you want to take the source for LaTeX
later on.

It might have been designed for math typesetting only and that's
probably why

otfinfo -g euler.otf

gives glyph names that do not seem to make much sense at all. I
haven't read far into this project yet, but it might be worth
exploring. As far as typesetting regular text is concerned, it is not
worth the trouble.

Tariq

Juhapekka Tolvanen

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Jun 5, 2010, 2:42:02 PM6/5/10
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Tariq <tariq....@gmail.com> writes:

> I would not recommend that otf font at all: it lacks such basic glyphs
> as hyphen, en dash, emdash and whatnot. Makes no sense as to why, but
> you cannot access these even when you use

I have seen some template, that used Euler for numbers of chapters. It
looked cool. It was based on some document class of KOMA-script.


--
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Tariq

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Jun 5, 2010, 2:47:47 PM6/5/10
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On Jun 5, 2:42 pm, Juhapekka Tolvanen
<SNAFU.juhtolv....@MIA.iki.RIP.fi.FUBAR.example.com.invalid> wrote:

I believe classicthesis class also uses chapter numbers from euler
font. But that is the postscript Type1 version and not OT.

Tariq

Juhapekka Tolvanen

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Jun 5, 2010, 3:10:11 PM6/5/10
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Tariq <tariq....@gmail.com> writes:

> On Jun 5, 2:42 pm, Juhapekka Tolvanen
> <SNAFU.juhtolv....@MIA.iki.RIP.fi.FUBAR.example.com.invalid> wrote:
>> Tariq <tariq.per...@gmail.com> writes:
>> > I would not recommend that otf font at all: it lacks such basic glyphs
>> > as hyphen, en dash, emdash and whatnot. Makes no sense as to why, but
>> > you cannot access these even when you use
>>
>> I have seen some template, that used Euler for numbers of chapters. It
>> looked cool. It was based on some document class of KOMA-script.

> I believe classicthesis class also uses chapter numbers from euler


> font. But that is the postscript Type1 version and not OT.

"classicthesis"! Maybe that template I meant really was that. Maybe it
later developed to new document class.

Will Robertson

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Jun 6, 2010, 6:24:14 AM6/6/10
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On 2010-06-06 02:03:36 +0930, Tariq <tariq....@gmail.com> said:

>> You could grab Khaled Hosny's OpenType version here:
>>
>> http://github.com/khaledhosny/euler-otf
>>
>> and then use XeTeX or LuaTeX to typeset a paragraph for you.
>>
>> Not sure if this helps,
>> Will
>
> I would not recommend that otf font at all: it lacks such basic glyphs
> as hyphen, en dash, emdash and whatnot.

[...]

> As far as typesetting regular text is concerned, it is not
> worth the trouble.


Ah, okay, sorry for the wrong advice. Thanks for looking into it; I
haven't used the font much besides testing for unicode-math.

W

Tariq

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Jun 6, 2010, 3:28:45 PM6/6/10
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On Jun 6, 6:24 am, Will Robertson <wsp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ah, okay, sorry for the wrong advice. Thanks for looking into it; I
> haven't used the font much besides testing for unicode-math.
>

Will,

You are not at fault here; the project appears to be mainly aimed at
mathematical typesetting (as Euler font was initially conceived for
this purpose). However, typesetting of regular text might be possible
at some point in time. For example, if you try to typeset a paragraph
with euler.otf as main font, you can see that it works (except for
missing glyphs as I pointed out earlier). They have not yet released
even the beta version yet and all glyphs have not been filled in. I
for one would love to have Euler font as the main text font. The final
outcome of the project ought to be very good since Hermann Zapf is
also involved in the review process for the glyphs. Let's keep out
hopes up.
Tariq


cburroughs

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Jul 11, 2010, 10:00:34 AM7/11/10
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> You could grab Khaled Hosny's OpenType version here:
>
> http://github.com/khaledhosny/euler-otf
>
> and then use XeTeX or LuaTeX to typeset a paragraph for you.
>
> Not sure if this helps,
> Will

Thank you Will, that worked out great.

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