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Thu 23 Mar: TeX Hour: Typst and Unlatex: 7:30pm GMT
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Jonathan Fine
Mar 22, 2023, 3:44:58 PM3/22/23
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Hi
Tomorrow we look at two new projects in technical typsetteing. They both have production of HTML and accessibile outputs as a central goal.
The TeX Hour is Thursday 23 March 6:30 to 7:30pm GMT. The Zoom URL is
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/78551255396?pwd=cHdJN0pTTXRlRCtSd1lCTHpuWmNIUT09.
UK not yet daylight saving time. Here's the UK time now: https://time.is/UK
The first is Typst, which uses a modern input syntax and a Rust core to create a tool that will be easier to use. I learnt about it from a post to the BlindMath mailing list.
https://github.com/typst/typst
https://libreddit.spike.codes/r/rust/comments/11xpg6e/typst_a_modern_latex_alternative_written_in_rust/
http://nfbnet.org/pipermail/blindmath_nfbnet.org/2023-March/010613.html
The second, if time allows, is my own Unlatex project., where I'll report recent progress and discuss emerging goals and opportunities.
https://github.com/arxtex/unlatex
https://texhour.github.io/2023/03/09/unlatex-texbox-access-tree/
It's a big world and there's plenty of room for multiple projects. The more they share, the better things will be.
wishing you happy LaTeXing, Unlatexing and Typsting
Jonathan
Tomorrow we look at two new projects in technical typsetteing. They both have production of HTML and accessibile outputs as a central goal.
The TeX Hour is Thursday 23 March 6:30 to 7:30pm GMT. The Zoom URL is
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/78551255396?pwd=cHdJN0pTTXRlRCtSd1lCTHpuWmNIUT09.
UK not yet daylight saving time. Here's the UK time now: https://time.is/UK
The first is Typst, which uses a modern input syntax and a Rust core to create a tool that will be easier to use. I learnt about it from a post to the BlindMath mailing list.
https://github.com/typst/typst
https://libreddit.spike.codes/r/rust/comments/11xpg6e/typst_a_modern_latex_alternative_written_in_rust/
http://nfbnet.org/pipermail/blindmath_nfbnet.org/2023-March/010613.html
The second, if time allows, is my own Unlatex project., where I'll report recent progress and discuss emerging goals and opportunities.
https://github.com/arxtex/unlatex
https://texhour.github.io/2023/03/09/unlatex-texbox-access-tree/
It's a big world and there's plenty of room for multiple projects. The more they share, the better things will be.
wishing you happy LaTeXing, Unlatexing and Typsting
Jonathan
Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Mar 23, 2023, 9:24:57 AM3/23/23
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Had a look.
How does that improve over Markdown/Pandoc?
el
On 22/03/2023 20:44, Jonathan Fine wrote:
[...]
How does that improve over Markdown/Pandoc?
el
On 22/03/2023 20:44, Jonathan Fine wrote:
[...]
> The first is Typst, which uses a modern input syntax and a Rust
> core to create a tool that will be easier to use. I learnt
> about it from a post to the BlindMath mailing list.
[...]
> core to create a tool that will be easier to use. I learnt
> about it from a post to the BlindMath mailing list.
Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Mar 23, 2023, 11:40:47 AM3/23/23
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Had a deeper look.
While I would have preferred this used straight Markdown instead
of yet another Markup Language, this most certainly looks VERY
interesting, indeed.
el
On 23/03/2023 16:02, Jonathan Fine wrote:
> Hi Eberhard
>
> Typst is, or is intended to be, an app. Your query, I assume, is based
> on markdown to LaTeX to PDF as the route to PDF. If so, then a big
> difference is that it is not necessary to install TeX Live.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Jonathan
While I would have preferred this used straight Markdown instead
of yet another Markup Language, this most certainly looks VERY
interesting, indeed.
el
On 23/03/2023 16:02, Jonathan Fine wrote:
> Hi Eberhard
>
> Typst is, or is intended to be, an app. Your query, I assume, is based
> on markdown to LaTeX to PDF as the route to PDF. If so, then a big
> difference is that it is not necessary to install TeX Live.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Jonathan
Peter Flynn
Mar 23, 2023, 1:48:23 PM3/23/23
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On 23/03/2023 15:40, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> Had a deeper look.
>
> While I would have preferred this used straight Markdown instead of
> yet another Markup Language, this most certainly looks VERY
> interesting, indeed.
I believe this is the original research which generated Typst
> Had a deeper look.
>
> While I would have preferred this used straight Markdown instead of
> yet another Markup Language, this most certainly looks VERY
> interesting, indeed.
https://www.user.tu-berlin.de/laurmaedje/programmable-markup-language-for-typesetting.pdf
Peter
Peter Flynn
Mar 24, 2023, 11:44:09 AM3/24/23
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On 24/03/2023 00:14, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
[...]
> typst t.typ 109.9 ms
> pdflatex l.tex 452.8 ms
> lualatex l.tex 925.3 ms
Very interesting, thank you. TeX systems do of course impose some excise
in the form of required compatibility with the trip and trap tests, so
they would be expected to be slower than a much smaller program written
from scratch.
> Verbosity of the input files is similar,
Also interesting: most proponents of LaTeX-alternatives are very proud
of NOT being verbose (esp Markdown). The penalty, of course, is that
they are usually not as flexible.
> but Typst seems a little easier to write and read.
I think it appeals to programmers because it looks more like the syntax
of a programming language.
Peter
[...]
> typst t.typ 109.9 ms
> pdflatex l.tex 452.8 ms
> lualatex l.tex 925.3 ms
Very interesting, thank you. TeX systems do of course impose some excise
in the form of required compatibility with the trip and trap tests, so
they would be expected to be slower than a much smaller program written
from scratch.
> Verbosity of the input files is similar,
Also interesting: most proponents of LaTeX-alternatives are very proud
of NOT being verbose (esp Markdown). The penalty, of course, is that
they are usually not as flexible.
> but Typst seems a little easier to write and read.
I think it appeals to programmers because it looks more like the syntax
of a programming language.
Peter
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